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Neil Warnock Sacked, Rafa Benitez Believed To Be Responsible.

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Keith Curle. I used to have about 5 copies of him for my Panini sticker collection one year, could never get rid of them.
 
He got them promoted but the problem is that he's considered not good enough for the premier league. Whether he is or not is another matter. That is the perception because a few times now he's taken a team up then down again. Maybe if he had longer he might do better but who knows?

I wouldn't criticise the club for getting rid of him though. They want to stay up at the end of the day.
 
I admittedly don't like the bloke, but I think the perception you refer to is justified. Worncock is good at getting teams out of the Championship but not at keeping them out. Despite the fact that QPR went up as champions I always thought Norwich and Swansea would do better in the Prem.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=48205.msg1460616#msg1460616 date=1326128952]
I admittedly don't like the bloke, but I think the perception you refer to is justified. Worncock is good at getting teams out of the Championship but not at keeping them out. Despite the fact that QPR went up as champions I always thought Norwich and Swansea would do better in the Prem.
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I wouldn't disagree. Ultimately his record is pretty good - promotions to the top flight with Notts County, Sheffield United and QPR and better still in even lower divisions - but he has never kept a team up in the top division once he has got them there, and neither of them recovered very well either, so I guess QPR were concerned what would happen.

It seems harsh but ultimately he played his part. Clubs often do the same with players. They have players who get them promoted and new ones when they get there if they can afford them.
 
I wasn't really listening. Just talking that it's ongoing. The twat agent was next to him I think. The tevez one.

Ha, remember when Hughes tried to defend tevez on sky and souness destroyed him? Quality.
 
Well, saying that it's "ongoing" isn't really talking about it.

Everyone knows why he's there and he's not giving out any secrets.
 
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http://www.qpr.co.uk/page/NewsDetail/0,,10373~2571588,00.html
 
He has a proven track record in the transfer market, recruiting the likes of Vincent Kompany, Nigel de Jong, Moussa Dembele and Christopher Samba to the Premier League.
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If anything, this is his edge over Warnock.
 
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Only 4
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That's 20% of the premiership!
 
[quote author=Binny link=topic=48205.msg1461155#msg1461155 date=1326203142]
He has a proven track record in the transfer market, recruiting the likes of Vincent Kompany, Nigel de Jong, Moussa Dembele and Christopher Samba to the Premier League.
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If anything, this is his edge over Warnock.
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That, and not being a pantomime dame.
 
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[quote author=Binny link=topic=48205.msg1461155#msg1461155 date=1326203142]
He has a proven track record in the transfer market, recruiting the likes of Vincent Kompany, Nigel de Jong, Moussa Dembele and Christopher Samba to the Premier League.
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If anything, this is his edge over Warnock.
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That, and not being a pantomime dame.
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*Imagines Warnock dressed up as Widow Twankey*
 
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[quote author=themn link=topic=48205.msg1461160#msg1461160 date=1326203399]
[quote author=Binny link=topic=48205.msg1461155#msg1461155 date=1326203142]
He has a proven track record in the transfer market, recruiting the likes of Vincent Kompany, Nigel de Jong, Moussa Dembele and Christopher Samba to the Premier League.
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If anything, this is his edge over Warnock.
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That, and not being a pantomime dame.
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*Imagines Warnock dressed up as Widow Twankey*
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Not much imagining needed I reckon.
 
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=48205.msg1461154#msg1461154 date=1326203030]
Only 4
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Is there anyone who has managed more clubs?

I think there are a few on 4 but can't think of any who have managed more
 
Getting the sack is a fact of life in football management and I should know. I've now been fired by Burton Albion, Notts County, Plymouth Argyle, Oldham Athletic and Queen's Park Rangers. They say it is a results business. It is, but only up to a point. At three of those clubs, including QPR, I'd won promotion.

The problem with that is it raises expectations that a club isn't always geared up to meet. At QPR we probably went up a year too early. In March 2010, when I arrived, we were fighting relegation to League One. By May 2011 we were celebrating promotion to the Premier League after winning the Championship.

Unfortunately, because of the uncertainty over the ownership, we were not able to get into in the transfer market early enough or well enough to build on that in the summer. The bulk of my squad is last year's team – several of them were in the side that nearly went down. When the new owners arrived in the third week of August they told me my remit was to get some players signed in a rush before the deadline, then get to the new year with QPR outside the bottom three. We could then bring in three or four players in the January window.

I feel I have kept to that. We have not been in the bottom three all season. When I look at how managers at other clubs in the Premier League have been given unequivocal support by their board it is an understatement to say I am very disappointed.

We knew we had a tough run of fixtures – we've played Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal in the last six matches – but there were winnable games coming up and I feel we had been playing well enough to win them. Look at our last three League matches. We played very well at Swansea, dominating the second half, held our own at Arsenal, and were leading Norwich. But you can't legislate for Shaun Wright-Phillips giving the ball straight to Arshavin with half an hour left, or Joey Barton getting sent off. A few more points and we'd be mid-table, which is where I feel our football deserves us to be.

While I accept the owner's decision, I do feel if there were more people at the club in positions of power with experience in the game they would have understood how well we have done in the circumstances, and they would've realised that once we brought in the players I had identified there would have been no problem securing a Premier League future.

But no doubt the chairman has had a string of agents in touch telling them their man could do a better job. It looks like it might be Mark Hughes, though I heard around Christmas they were thinking of Zola and Wilkins. Will a new manager make a difference? Not as much as new players will. If you haven't got the players you can't win games, that's another fact of life in football management. I just wish I had the chance to bring in the ones I wanted, both in the summer, and this month.
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=48205.msg1461235#msg1461235 date=1326210774]
Probably a good move by QPR.

I rate Hughes higher than Warnock.
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You rated Roy Hodgson.
 
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=48205.msg1461235#msg1461235 date=1326210774]
Probably a good move by QPR.

I rate Hughes higher than Warnock.
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You rated Roy Hodgson.
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FINISH HIM!!!
 
I confused pity for talent. It's not happening again. I need Bunny and Vlad back to take the heat off me.
 
[quote author=Binny link=topic=48205.msg1461259#msg1461259 date=1326212229]
Getting the sack is a fact of life in football management and I should know. I've now been fired by Burton Albion, Notts County, Plymouth Argyle, Oldham Athletic and Queen's Park Rangers. They say it is a results business. It is, but only up to a point. At three of those clubs, including QPR, I'd won promotion.

The problem with that is it raises expectations that a club isn't always geared up to meet. At QPR we probably went up a year too early. In March 2010, when I arrived, we were fighting relegation to League One. By May 2011 we were celebrating promotion to the Premier League after winning the Championship.

Unfortunately, because of the uncertainty over the ownership, we were not able to get into in the transfer market early enough or well enough to build on that in the summer. The bulk of my squad is last year's team – several of them were in the side that nearly went down. When the new owners arrived in the third week of August they told me my remit was to get some players signed in a rush before the deadline, then get to the new year with QPR outside the bottom three. We could then bring in three or four players in the January window.

I feel I have kept to that. We have not been in the bottom three all season. When I look at how managers at other clubs in the Premier League have been given unequivocal support by their board it is an understatement to say I am very disappointed.

We knew we had a tough run of fixtures – we've played Manchester United, Liverpool, Arsenal in the last six matches – but there were winnable games coming up and I feel we had been playing well enough to win them. Look at our last three League matches. We played very well at Swansea, dominating the second half, held our own at Arsenal, and were leading Norwich. But you can't legislate for Shaun Wright-Phillips giving the ball straight to Arshavin with half an hour left, or Joey Barton getting sent off. A few more points and we'd be mid-table, which is where I feel our football deserves us to be.

While I accept the owner's decision, I do feel if there were more people at the club in positions of power with experience in the game they would have understood how well we have done in the circumstances, and they would've realised that once we brought in the players I had identified there would have been no problem securing a Premier League future.

But no doubt the chairman has had a string of agents in touch telling them their man could do a better job. It looks like it might be Mark Hughes, though I heard around Christmas they were thinking of Zola and Wilkins. Will a new manager make a difference? Not as much as new players will. If you haven't got the players you can't win games, that's another fact of life in football management. I just wish I had the chance to bring in the ones I wanted, both in the summer, and this month.
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That can't be our Colin talking. He doesn't finish a single sentence with 'me' (e.g. 'I'm gutted,me' 'I'm so angry, me' 'I'm flipping fed up, me' 'I'll never forgive Rafa, me' etc etc).
 
Warnock merely says Joey Barton's name in an interview and this happens:

From: @Joey7Barton
Sent: 20 Jan 2012 16:23

Neil Warnock saying I talk to much. Now that is funny #mikebassett

If I talked about Neil, he'd do well to get another job. Twitter cost him his job???? I can think of a million other things! #shutitwarnock

Looking forward to the game against Wigan tomo. 1st time in a while we actually have a plan and seem organised. #3ptsneeded

Lost his job and the guy is blaming everyone but himself! Embarrassing, time to look in the mirror mate. Last thing we need right. Big week
 
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