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Scum's biggest buys (according to the BBC):

£59.7m: Angel Di Maria from Real Madrid
£37.1m: Juan Mata from Chelsea
£31m: Memphis Depay from PSV Eindhoven
£30.8m: Dimitar Berbatov from Tottenham
£30m: Rio Ferdinand from Leeds
£29m: Ander Herrera from Athletic Bilbao
£28.1m: Juan Sebastian Veron from Lazio
 
Some decent players on the list compared to the players we have signed for £20 mill +.


The rio money was mental, in todays market he would be go for 70 million plus.
 
Rooney and Ferdinand have been the only players signed for a high value who have gone onto justify their fee. It's a very poor list given the fees spent. Shows how hard buying players can be.

Herrera hasn't looked like a 30M player once since he signed for them.
 
Berbatov for £30+Mill seems absurd! My favourite is Veron. The PL ruined him!
 
hmmmmm1 said:
Some decent players on the list compared to the players we have signed for £20 mill +.
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Decent players for sure but the only real success story there is Ferdinand.

Mata is a good player but £37m good? Berbatov, Di Maria and Veron all flopped and Herrera is a good player but - again - £29m good?

Jury is obviously out on Depay.
 
Yeah, a Manc mate of mine is a big Herrera fan and reckons most of them feel the same way.

Depay has bags of ability and potential, but in fairness we don't yet know if he's going to realise it here.
 
It's only a fraction of what they've wasted the last couple of years.

Falcao cost them about £20-25m for the season, and they blew another £25m on Di Maria - including wages, obv. And IMO giving Rooney a long term deal at like 28 on £300k a week was another insane move.

They've got a remarkably crap squad for the money they've lavished.
 
Oliver Twist said:
Decent players for sure but the only real success story there is Ferdinand.

Mata is a good player but £37m good? Berbatov, Di Maria and Veron all flopped and Herrera is a good player but - again - £29m good?

Jury is obviously out on Depay.
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Berbatov didn't flop at all. He was top scorer in the league with 20 goals in 2010-11, which basically won them the league. You could argue that that alone was good enough return for 30 million.
 
Oliver Twist said:
So is Di Maria, and so was Veron. Didn't mean anything in the end as Utd wasted millions on both.
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I'm hoping he loses his way, gets massively big headed and flops horrendously while still driving around in an open top sports car with his bulldog in the passenger seat.
 
Squiggles said:
Rooney and Ferdinand have been the only players signed for a high value who have gone onto justify their fee. It's a very poor list given the fees spent. Shows how hard buying players can be.

Herrera hasn't looked like a 30M player once since he signed for them.
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It's amazing though that when they've bought most of these players, alot of people have questioned why we weren't showing similar ambition. There's been alot of players bought for significantly less who've proven better investments.

We can say the same of our own buys though, most of our best ones have been some way off our transfer record.
 
Didnt they buy Shaw for 30 mill aswell?

Herrera is a good player. Not a 30 mill player but the fees are so inflated these days.
 
I have to say I think Berbatov was a huge flop. They got very little out of that £30m.

I seem to remember the season he scored a lot of goals included a 5 goal haul in one game, so it's a hell of a stretch to say he won them that title.
 
peterhague said:
It's only a fraction of what they've wasted the last couple of years.

Falcao cost them about £20-25m for the season, and they blew another £25m on Di Maria - including wages, obv. And IMO giving Rooney a long term deal at like 28 on £300k a week was another insane move.

They've got a remarkably crap squad for the money they've lavished.
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Adding wages in makes every player look crazy expensive.

And some of the wages quoted for united players are vastly overstated. Otherwise the total wage bill would be far higher than it actually is.
 
peterhague said:
I have to say I think Berbatov was a huge flop. They got very little out of that £30m.

I seem to remember the season he scored a lot of goals included a 5 goal haul in one game, so it's a hell of a stretch to say he won them that title.
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He still managed 50 goals in 100 odd games for us.
A disappointment but a flop is stretching it.
 
Oliver Twist said:
Decent players for sure but the only real success story there is Ferdinand.

Mata is a good player but £37m good? Berbatov, Di Maria and Veron all flopped and Herrera is a good player but - again - £29m good?

Jury is obviously out on Depay.
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I still reckon Mats was a good buy at £37m a little over priced but not signifactly.

He has got 15 goals and probably 10 assists in 48 games for us.
 
ChastenedMUFC said:
He still managed 50 goals in 100 odd games for us.
A disappointment but a flop is stretching it.
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Yeah, he was no flop. Could have been much better in Europe but in the league he had 50 goals in 100 games. Won you the league one year aswell as someone else also pointed out.
 
He didn't win them the league, that really is a stretch. 20 goals including 5 in one game, a 7-1 thrashing of Blackburn. It's a good season but it's not the kind of run that makes the difference in a weak league they won by 9 points (yeah, I checked wikipedia).

If you put his contribution in light of his fee, and what they got back for him when he left... poor signing. A flop.
 
Hansern said:
18-20 mill maybe? I dont know. He's a good player but seems to go missing against the top sides teams.
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£18m to £20m seriously?

You get very little for less than £20m in the current market.
I don't know whether you vastly under rate him or think far more players are available below £20m.

You paid £25m for lallana and £20m for Markovic just last season.
 
Mata has been underwhelming since joining United. Definitely not worth 37 million.

Though he did look a 37 million player in his first two seasons at Chelsea.
 
peterhague said:
He didn't win them the league, that really is a stretch. 20 goals including 5 in one game, a 7-1 thrashing of Blackburn. It's a good season but it's not the kind of run that makes the difference in a weak league they won by 9 points (yeah, I checked wikipedia).

If you put his contribution in light of his fee, and what they got back for him when he left... poor signing. A flop.
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I conveniently do not recall much of that season (it was the bleeding Hodgson year), but I'd say if they had the top scorer in the league, he'd have played a pretty significant role in their title win, no matter how weak the competition.

What they got back for him? I think they signed him when he was 27 and sold him at 31 for 5 million.

At that age, players rarely have any resale value. You have to have a different standard for judging signings in that age bracket - impact in terms of trophies rather than resale value. Take van Persie - they've just sold him for 3 million. But he'll still go down as a brilliant signing for that one great season. Willing to concede though that van Persie's impact in 12-13 was much greater than Berbatov's in 10-11.
 
dmishra said:
Mata has been underwhelming since joining United. Definitely not worth 37 million.

Though he did look a 37 million player in his first two seasons at Chelsea.
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1 in 3 for an AM/winger is a decent return. Far less competition upfront this season so he will get more games and think he will do better again.

You just paid £30m for Firmino, if you get a better output return than that you will be doing very well.
 
peterhague said:
I have to say I think Berbatov was a huge flop. They got very little out of that £30m.

I seem to remember the season he scored a lot of goals included a 5 goal haul in one game, so it's a hell of a stretch to say he won them that title.
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He scored a hat trick against us.

That's worth a few million alone.
 
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