Does the fact that he is now regarded as innocent, affect Sankey, in that he could now be prosecuted Ross?
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Not sure about the "Liverpool Way" and all that, but I thought it was a bit dubious when Liverpool FC got involved and had all the t-shirts on, etc.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35731.msg940761#msg940761 date=1252521717]
Don't give me the sanctimonious shit Froggie.
You realise that there are witnesses that say Shields was comatose when the attack happened ?
Do you realise that Sankey and another fella were already in custody for the attack when the police went back to the hotel to find the third guy (described as being 5'7 with dark hair) ? Shields being 6 foot tall with blond hair, was arrested and made to wear clothes similar to the attacker.
No physical evidence was ever produced in court despite there being plenty from the scene.
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Sanctimonius ? Hardly.
I am just not apt to believe everything the British press print. Even more so not living there and seeing the crap they come up with half the time. Most people, having been inundated by supportive press, particularly local, advocating Shields' innocence, since the incident, follow that belief.
BTW. As far as I am aware those witnesses didn't know Shields either and their statements were far from credible, or indeed non conflicting, in themselves. In fact the evidence supplied would not have got a conviction in the UK. That doesn't in itself prove innocence though.
I remember reading through the statements released by all parties at the time, I'm not going to revisit it now, and I formed an opinion and since then there has not exactly been a wealth of new evidence to definitively sway anyone one way or the other.
No matter what opinion you hold, innocent, guilty or sitting pretty on the fence, it is impossible to draw a definitive conclusion from the information we have. So how does Jack Straw.
Don't give me the sanctimonious shit Froggie.
You realise that there are witnesses that say Shields was comatose when the attack happened ?
Do you realise that Sankey and another fella were already in custody for the attack when the police went back to the hotel to find the third guy (described as being 5'7 with dark hair) ? Shields being 6 foot tall with blond hair, was arrested and made to wear clothes similar to the attacker.
No physical evidence was ever produced in court despite there being plenty from the scene.
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Sanctimonius ? Hardly.
I am just not apt to believe everything the British press print. Even more so not living there and seeing the crap they come up with half the time. Most people, having been inundated by supportive press, particularly local, advocating Shields' innocence, since the incident, follow that belief.
BTW. As far as I am aware those witnesses didn't know Shields either and their statements were far from credible, or indeed non conflicting, in themselves. In fact the evidence supplied would not have got a conviction in the UK. That doesn't in itself prove innocence though.
I remember reading through the statements released by all parties at the time, I'm not going to revisit it now, and I formed an opinion and since then there has not exactly been a wealth of new evidence to definitively sway anyone one way or the other.
No matter what opinion you hold, innocent, guilty or sitting pretty on the fence, it is impossible to draw a definitive conclusion from the information we have. So how does Jack Straw.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=35731.msg940764#msg940764 date=1252522083]
Not sure about the "Liverpool Way" and all that, but I thought it was a bit dubious when Liverpool FC got involved and had all the t-shirts on, etc.
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Yeah, me too. Considering, as I mentioned, that nothing definitive can be summised from the available evidence.
Not sure about the "Liverpool Way" and all that, but I thought it was a bit dubious when Liverpool FC got involved and had all the t-shirts on, etc.
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Yeah, me too. Considering, as I mentioned, that nothing definitive can be summised from the available evidence.
I didn't feel it was appropriate, yet I am more than happy with the HJC stuff they do on occasion. Serious question, is this double standards by myself?
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The other guy can now be prosecuted
Double jeopardy was ditched.
Double jeopardy was ditched.
[quote author=Rafiagra link=topic=35731.msg940855#msg940855 date=1252529917]
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=35731.msg940840#msg940840 date=1252529135]
He's changed a lot since 2005, lost a lot of weight.
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Aye I noticed that.
Maybe this whole thing has done him a favour.
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I'd say he would have preferred Weight Watchers tbf...
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=35731.msg940840#msg940840 date=1252529135]
He's changed a lot since 2005, lost a lot of weight.
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Aye I noticed that.
Maybe this whole thing has done him a favour.
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I'd say he would have preferred Weight Watchers tbf...
[quote author=Rafiagra link=topic=35731.msg940855#msg940855 date=1252529917]
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=35731.msg940840#msg940840 date=1252529135]
He's changed a lot since 2005, lost a lot of weight.
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Aye I noticed that.
Maybe this whole thing has done him a favour.
[/quote]HAHAHAHAHAHA
[quote author=FPI Project link=topic=35731.msg940840#msg940840 date=1252529135]
He's changed a lot since 2005, lost a lot of weight.
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Aye I noticed that.
Maybe this whole thing has done him a favour.
[/quote]HAHAHAHAHAHA
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=35731.msg940776#msg940776 date=1252523236]
Sooooooo he'll be looking for a Liverpool Fansite to join.......
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Criminally overlooked, this post.
Imagine the threads he'd start in GC!
*Awkward*
Sooooooo he'll be looking for a Liverpool Fansite to join.......
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Criminally overlooked, this post.
Imagine the threads he'd start in GC!
*Awkward*
[quote author=Frogfish link=topic=35731.msg940779#msg940779 date=1252523516]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35731.msg940761#msg940761 date=1252521717]
Don't give me the sanctimonious shit Froggie.
You realise that there are witnesses that say Shields was comatose when the attack happened ?
Do you realise that Sankey and another fella were already in custody for the attack when the police went back to the hotel to find the third guy (described as being 5'7 with dark hair) ? Shields being 6 foot tall with blond hair, was arrested and made to wear clothes similar to the attacker.
No physical evidence was ever produced in court despite there being plenty from the scene.
[/quote]
Sanctimonius ? Hardly.
I am just not apt to believe everything the British press print. Even more so not living there and seeing the crap they come up with half the time. Most people, having been inundated by supportive press, particularly local, advocating Shields' innocence, since the incident, follow that belief.
BTW. As far as I am aware those witnesses didn't know Shields either and their statements were far from credible, or indeed non conflicting, in themselves. In fact the evidence supplied would not have got a conviction in the UK. That doesn't in itself prove innocence though.
I remember reading through the statements released by all parties at the time, I'm not going to revisit it now, and I formed an opinion and since then there has not exactly been a wealth of new evidence to definitively sway anyone one way or the other.
No matter what opinion you hold, innocent, guilty or sitting pretty on the fence, it is impossible to draw a definitive conclusion from the information we have. So how does Jack Straw.
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How did a court of law in Bulgaria come to a definitive conclusion in the first place ?
There's far too much reasonable doubt to ensure a safe conviction.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35731.msg940761#msg940761 date=1252521717]
Don't give me the sanctimonious shit Froggie.
You realise that there are witnesses that say Shields was comatose when the attack happened ?
Do you realise that Sankey and another fella were already in custody for the attack when the police went back to the hotel to find the third guy (described as being 5'7 with dark hair) ? Shields being 6 foot tall with blond hair, was arrested and made to wear clothes similar to the attacker.
No physical evidence was ever produced in court despite there being plenty from the scene.
[/quote]
Sanctimonius ? Hardly.
I am just not apt to believe everything the British press print. Even more so not living there and seeing the crap they come up with half the time. Most people, having been inundated by supportive press, particularly local, advocating Shields' innocence, since the incident, follow that belief.
BTW. As far as I am aware those witnesses didn't know Shields either and their statements were far from credible, or indeed non conflicting, in themselves. In fact the evidence supplied would not have got a conviction in the UK. That doesn't in itself prove innocence though.
I remember reading through the statements released by all parties at the time, I'm not going to revisit it now, and I formed an opinion and since then there has not exactly been a wealth of new evidence to definitively sway anyone one way or the other.
No matter what opinion you hold, innocent, guilty or sitting pretty on the fence, it is impossible to draw a definitive conclusion from the information we have. So how does Jack Straw.
[/quote]
How did a court of law in Bulgaria come to a definitive conclusion in the first place ?
There's far too much reasonable doubt to ensure a safe conviction.
[quote author=ILD link=topic=35731.msg941129#msg941129 date=1252581836]
Will Pete play Micahel Shields?
They'll probably give it to his lookalike from Hollyoaks who has more acting experience.
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I bet Pete's glad that the lad is no longer playing a gay role.
Will Pete play Micahel Shields?
They'll probably give it to his lookalike from Hollyoaks who has more acting experience.
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I bet Pete's glad that the lad is no longer playing a gay role.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=35731.msg940850#msg940850 date=1252529797]
The other guy can now be prosecuted
Double jeopardy was ditched.
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True, but I wonder if it'd even be an issue.
He's been pardoned, but his conviction hasn't been quashed.
He's still guilty.
The other guy can now be prosecuted
Double jeopardy was ditched.
[/quote]
True, but I wonder if it'd even be an issue.
He's been pardoned, but his conviction hasn't been quashed.
He's still guilty.
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=35731.msg941150#msg941150 date=1252585479]
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=35731.msg940850#msg940850 date=1252529797]
The other guy can now be prosecuted
Double jeopardy was ditched.
[/quote]
True, but I wonder if it'd even be an issue.
He's been pardoned, but his conviction hasn't been quashed.
He's still guilty.
[/quote]
Double jeopardy was quashed in this country. I have no idea about Bulgarian law though and this conviction was in Bulgaria with a deal done so that he would serve his time here after having to pay for that privilege.
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=35731.msg940850#msg940850 date=1252529797]
The other guy can now be prosecuted
Double jeopardy was ditched.
[/quote]
True, but I wonder if it'd even be an issue.
He's been pardoned, but his conviction hasn't been quashed.
He's still guilty.
[/quote]
Double jeopardy was quashed in this country. I have no idea about Bulgarian law though and this conviction was in Bulgaria with a deal done so that he would serve his time here after having to pay for that privilege.
Delighted to hear this news. He was innocent.
He looked all inocent and jolly when he had the weight on him, a simpatetic face, now he's lost the weight, he lookslike a right scally, I'd say he did it on that evidence alone.
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