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Maureen reveals Contract Clause

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[quote author=the_khl link=topic=39376.msg1071989#msg1071989 date=1268915113]
[quote author=Buddha link=topic=39376.msg1071983#msg1071983 date=1268914448]
Inter were awesome tuesday night.

I could put up with Jose's ego should he wish to bring his 4-3-3 to Anfield. We'd be transformed overnight I should think.
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They weren't awesome.

They spoiled the game and made the best of it. Cudos to them but they weren't awesome in any way mate.

Barca were awesome. Perhaps Arsenal too. Inter was simply doing their utmost to ruin any kind of football beeing played.

Effective playing-time of football on the night, 45 minutes. The rest of the time was obviously spend by well-instructed Inter-players doing their utmost to ruin any flow and rhythm, constantly surrounding the ref at any chance. Bickering and arguing like was Mourinho on the pitch himself.

Is that the way you guys want to see Liverpool progress from here?

Fair enough then.

I'll keep my fingers firmly crossed that'll never happen.
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There's not many teams beat Chelsea at the Bridge. Given Inter were protecting a first-leg lead it's hardly surprising that Mourinho didn't instruct his team to go all out. Fact is, that "45 minutes" were as good as any team I've seen play at the Bridge for a while. They didn't give them a sniff and wasted a couple of glorious chances themselves.

Mourinho's not quite as defensive as most make out. Remember how quickly he transformed Chelsea into a side boasting one holding midfielder (Makele) behind two attacking central midfielders, two out and out wingers (Duff and Robben) supporting the awesome Drogba? That 4-3-3 was as attacking a line-up as anything Arsenal or Man utd put out - and he then added attacking full-backs in the shape of Cole etc. His teams work bloody hard off the ball but don't mistake that for a defensive mindset. I don't remember Mourinho ever playing two defensive midfielders in the centre whilst in England - either a 4-3-3 or 4-4-2 most of the time.

He'd command the instant respect of Gerrard, Torres et al and get us playing with the mindset of winning games and not settling for draws (his win to games record is astounding). Sure, he'd annoy the fuck out of me sometimes but we'd likely find some of his theatrics more endearing if he was 'ours" and the barbs were directed at Cocknose or Fat Sam.
 
...and we were winning titles again, which is the absolute crux of this for me. Once we've started to do THAT again, we can afford to pursue the kind of high principles which Kristian (understandably IMO) puts forward. Until that day arrives, we have to prioritise doing what's necessary to get there. Were we to sign Mourinho we'd have signed a winner. In our current situation, I'm afraid the argument ends there as far as I'm concerned.
 
PS I don't want to lose 4-3 I want us to win. Can we do it like Barca then great but that's not the main issue. But IF the times are right to change manager why on earth then appoint Rafa Mark II?

Because Mourinho is a better manager who has won the title in three different leagues including two in England.
 
[quote author=Mr_V link=topic=39376.msg1072041#msg1072041 date=1268919734]
As are yours KHL, who'd rather sign a manager who play's good football but lose 4-3 or sign a manager who knows how to win.

HELL sign Kevin fucking Keegan then!

Numpty!
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We have lost 14 games this season under a so called tacticall genious, and we have NOT played good football at all..... I think everyone would have preffered 14 4-3 losses with good footbal rather than 1-0 losses while we felt we had control over the game?
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=39376.msg1072063#msg1072063 date=1268920706]
...and we were winning titles again, which is the absolute crux of this for me. Once we've started to do THAT again, we can afford to pursue the kind of high principles which Kristian (understandably IMO) puts forward. Until that day arrives, we have to prioritise doing what's necessary to get there. Were we to sign Mourinho we'd have signed a winner. In our current situation, I'm afraid the argument ends there as far as I'm concerned.
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Amen to that brother...
 
"If" Rafa is to leave then i think i'd be all for Jose replacing him. Given our current financial situation though, like with Rafa i wouldn't expect Jose to win the league.

Until we get rid of G&H, whoever is managing us is going to have a near impossible job on their hands.
 
[quote author=the_khl link=topic=39376.msg1072039#msg1072039 date=1268919696]

Now, I haven't mentioned 'the Liverpool way' with one single word have I?

I'm talking about my way. Can I have it MY WAY he wouldn't come anywhere near the club I love as I simply dislike him and his methods and his approach.

In my opinion Liverpool is all about winning trophies but there's more to it than that. Call it whatever you like that's my take on it.
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Okay, sorry you didn't specifically say the words 'the Liverpool way' but you did say "He's not Liverpool-material. He's simply not got the class nor the humility" which pretty much amounts to the same thing

Of course you are entitled to your view but in my opinion it seems fairly irrational. The reasons you use to describe why you don't like Mourinho seem to be because he plays boring football (IMO its not that bad but hey), because of the way he conducts himself in the media and because he comes across as arrogant.

Sorry, but can't all these charges equally be thrown at Benitez? Except without all the league titles or even challenges to the league title to go with them?
 
Rafa4 mate, while I wouldn't disagree with what you say, I would suggest Mourinho did the practically impossible when he took Porto to the Champions League. He's the one manager I can think of who could outperform the limitations under which, as you say, any LFC manager is going to have to operate for a while yet.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39376.msg1072073#msg1072073 date=1268921382]
PS I don't want to lose 4-3 I want us to win. Can we do it like Barca then great but that's not the main issue. But IF the times are right to change manager why on earth then appoint Rafa Mark II?

Because Mourinho is a better manager who has won the title in three different leagues including two in England.
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to be fair in england he inherited a far better sqaud than we have now, was given vast sums of money on top of that and how will have to also contend with the newly rich man city something he didn't have to face before
 
If he wants to join us despite our current financial position then we should snap him up straight away!

Nothing's guaranteed but Benitez clearly can't seem to do the business with the current squad and current financial situation. Maybe Mourinho can? And given his well documented high opinion of himself I doubt he would take the job under circumstances that don't suit him if he thought he could not make a go of things.

And going forward, just say that H&G do sell up or we do get extra investment, we would at least have a manager in place who has a proven track record of success given the right resources wouldn't we?
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=39376.msg1072088#msg1072088 date=1268921956]
Rafa4 mate, while I wouldn't disagree with what you say, I would suggest Mourinho did the practically impossible when he took Porto to the Champions League. He's the one manager I can think of who could outperform the limitations under which, as you say, any LFC manager is going to have to operate for a while yet.
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Maybe he would mate. Personally i wouldn't expect him to win us the league though, or for that matter label him a failure if he didn't.

Taking all things into account though, I still can't see why JM would be interested in managing LFC.
 
[quote author=Richey link=topic=39376.msg1072096#msg1072096 date=1268922641]
If he wants to join us despite our current financial position then we should snap him up straight away!

Nothing's guaranteed but Benitez clearly can't seem to do the business with the current squad and current financial situation. Maybe Mourinho can? And given his well documented high opinion of himself I doubt he would take the job under circumstances that don't suit him if he thought he could not make a go of things.

And going forward, just say that H&G do sell up or we do get extra investment, we would at least have a manager in place who has a proven track record of success given the right resources wouldn't we?
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The word was that he was all set to take over if DIC came in-

is that true, or have I made that up?
 
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[quote author=Richey link=topic=39376.msg1072096#msg1072096 date=1268922641]
If he wants to join us despite our current financial position then we should snap him up straight away!

Nothing's guaranteed but Benitez clearly can't seem to do the business with the current squad and current financial situation. Maybe Mourinho can? And given his well documented high opinion of himself I doubt he would take the job under circumstances that don't suit him if he thought he could not make a go of things.

And going forward, just say that H&G do sell up or we do get extra investment, we would at least have a manager in place who has a proven track record of success given the right resources wouldn't we?
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The word was that he was all set to take over if DIC came in-

is that true, or have I made that up?
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No idea but I heard similarly. Unless you made it up and I heard it from you.
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39376.msg1072093#msg1072093 date=1268922491]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39376.msg1072073#msg1072073 date=1268921382]
PS I don't want to lose 4-3 I want us to win. Can we do it like Barca then great but that's not the main issue. But IF the times are right to change manager why on earth then appoint Rafa Mark II?

Because Mourinho is a better manager who has won the title in three different leagues including two in England.
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to be fair in england he inherited a far better sqaud than we have now, was given vast sums of money on top of that and how will have to also contend with the newly rich man city something he didn't have to face before
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Do you have that list saved to your desktop,Neil?
 
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=39376.msg1072159#msg1072159 date=1268929575]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39376.msg1072093#msg1072093 date=1268922491]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=39376.msg1072073#msg1072073 date=1268921382]
PS I don't want to lose 4-3 I want us to win. Can we do it like Barca then great but that's not the main issue. But IF the times are right to change manager why on earth then appoint Rafa Mark II?

Because Mourinho is a better manager who has won the title in three different leagues including two in England.
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to be fair in england he inherited a far better sqaud than we have now, was given vast sums of money on top of that and how will have to also contend with the newly rich man city something he didn't have to face before
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Do you have that list saved to your desktop,Neil?
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I've posted it a lot of times so I know it by heart 😉
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39376.msg1071986#msg1071986 date=1268915027]
inter were mighty impressive at the bridge but they did what italian teams do, keep possession, keep a solid shape, hit hard and fast on the break. how much credit does jose take for italians doing what italians do.
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There were no Italians in their starting XI but I take your point.
 
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=39376.msg1072181#msg1072181 date=1268931229]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=39376.msg1071986#msg1071986 date=1268915027]
inter were mighty impressive at the bridge but they did what italian teams do, keep possession, keep a solid shape, hit hard and fast on the break. how much credit does jose take for italians doing what italians do.
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There were no Italians in their starting XI but I take your point.
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I guess they're keeping true to why they made the club in the first place.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39376.msg1072099#msg1072099 date=1268922858]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=39376.msg1072088#msg1072088 date=1268921956]
Rafa4 mate, while I wouldn't disagree with what you say, I would suggest Mourinho did the practically impossible when he took Porto to the Champions League. He's the one manager I can think of who could outperform the limitations under which, as you say, any LFC manager is going to have to operate for a while yet.
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Maybe he would mate. Personally i wouldn't expect him to win us the league though, or for that matter label him a failure if he didn't.

Taking all things into account though, I still can't see why JM would be interested in managing LFC.
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Well, he's a proven title winner and he's absolutely minted, so he doesn't have anything to prove in either respect and can indulge his other interests. Factor in that he's a known admirer of LFC and its traditions, that he'd love the kudos of putting us back into winning ways and that he'd absolutely love to put one over on Rafa, and - while I accept there are still powerful arguments against it happening - I reckon there's enough there to tempt him at least in principle.
 
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[quote author=Terrier link=topic=39376.msg1071920#msg1071920 date=1268907998]
Mourinho reveals contract clause

By Soccernet staff

March 18, 2010



Jose Mourinho says he is free to leave Inter Milan at any point during the next three years of his contract.


Mourinho has repeatedly been linked with top jobs outside Italy, and his reputation rose further this week after he helped Inter to a 3-1 aggregate victory over Chelsea in the Champions League.

The former Blues boss has fuelled speculation that he may come back to the Premier League in the summer by saying he "may coach another English team" and it now appears there is a chance he could leave the San Siro sooner rather than later.

"My future consists of doing my best until the end of the season then we'll see," he said in the S**. "My contract is simple. I've got another three years, with a clause that allows me to leave whenever I want."

Mourinho has had a difficult relationship with the media and a number of other coaches in Serie A.



Please make it happen. Please God, make it happen.
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rafa will be in charge next season, stop dreaming.
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Not if we finish out of the CL places, not if we have new owners, and I suspect not if Del Bosque steps down after this world cup.
 
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