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[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=35958.msg947806#msg947806 date=1253564277]
Pires over Giggs is UTTERLY absurd.
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the season where he pretty much won arsenal the title but was incredible. giggs has had a long career no doubt but hasn't had a season of consistany to touch that season from pirez.
Pires over Giggs is UTTERLY absurd.
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the season where he pretty much won arsenal the title but was incredible. giggs has had a long career no doubt but hasn't had a season of consistany to touch that season from pirez.
[quote author=themn link=topic=35958.msg947819#msg947819 date=1253565993]
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=35958.msg947681#msg947681 date=1253549332]
The comments about him looking after himself and leading a healthy lifestyle are no doubt right, but he still looks about twenty years older than he is!
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Umm..no he doesn't.
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Umm...yes he does.
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=35958.msg947681#msg947681 date=1253549332]
The comments about him looking after himself and leading a healthy lifestyle are no doubt right, but he still looks about twenty years older than he is!
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Umm..no he doesn't.
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Umm...yes he does.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35958.msg947824#msg947824 date=1253566324]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=35958.msg947806#msg947806 date=1253564277]
Pires over Giggs is UTTERLY absurd.
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the season where he pretty much won arsenal the title but was incredible. giggs has had a long career no doubt but hasn't had a season of consistany to touch that season from pirez.
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S you compare one great season to ALL of Gigg's? Be quiet. Not in the same class.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=35958.msg947806#msg947806 date=1253564277]
Pires over Giggs is UTTERLY absurd.
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the season where he pretty much won arsenal the title but was incredible. giggs has had a long career no doubt but hasn't had a season of consistany to touch that season from pirez.
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S you compare one great season to ALL of Gigg's? Be quiet. Not in the same class.
Giggs vs Pires .... thats a tough one, personally i thought he was at his most dangerous as a teenager when he really was sensational, Pires however was fucking amazing at times at Arsenal..... mind you having Henry bamboozling defenders in front would have helped.
And although Giggs is indeed a model pro and seems like a nice fella in a way it makes me forgive him less for being an arch manc cunt.
Fuck Giggs.
Fuck Pires for that matter.
And although Giggs is indeed a model pro and seems like a nice fella in a way it makes me forgive him less for being an arch manc cunt.
Fuck Giggs.
Fuck Pires for that matter.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35958.msg947824#msg947824 date=1253566324]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=35958.msg947806#msg947806 date=1253564277]
Pires over Giggs is UTTERLY absurd.
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the season where he pretty much won arsenal the title but was incredible. giggs has had a long career no doubt but hasn't had a season of consistany to touch that season from pirez.
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So one brilliant season over a decade of great performances?
No doubt Pires was quality, but on this basis might aswell have Kevin Phillips over Michael Owen.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=35958.msg947806#msg947806 date=1253564277]
Pires over Giggs is UTTERLY absurd.
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the season where he pretty much won arsenal the title but was incredible. giggs has had a long career no doubt but hasn't had a season of consistany to touch that season from pirez.
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So one brilliant season over a decade of great performances?
No doubt Pires was quality, but on this basis might aswell have Kevin Phillips over Michael Owen.
it wasn't just ONE season, my point is pirez' heights is higher than giggs' heights. my opinion you are all free to have your own.
also if you are going to talk about quantity rather than quality, technically ronaldo only had two good seasons (three if you include last season).
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=35958.msg947836#msg947836 date=1253567282]
Decent game from Giggs. I fully expect him to recieve the Balon D'or on the strength of it.
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Ha, they don't need Ronaldo as they have the English player of the year instead (and therefore surely better).
Decent game from Giggs. I fully expect him to recieve the Balon D'or on the strength of it.
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Ha, they don't need Ronaldo as they have the English player of the year instead (and therefore surely better).
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35958.msg947833#msg947833 date=1253566961]
it wasn't just ONE season, my point is pirez' heights is higher than giggs' heights. my opinion you are all free to have your own.
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Neil, do you really enjoy digging deep holes?
it wasn't just ONE season, my point is pirez' heights is higher than giggs' heights. my opinion you are all free to have your own.
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Neil, do you really enjoy digging deep holes?
Giggs has been a bit part player for quite a while now. He does well at it, but think back to Digger Barnes: he went from being a fast forward to a midfielder and remained a key 90-minute player and captain. He didn't get half the praise for that outside of Liverpool, but it was a more impressive achievement.
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35958.msg947833#msg947833 date=1253566961]
it wasn't just ONE season, my point is pirez' heights is higher than giggs' heights. my opinion you are all free to have your own.
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Neil, do you really enjoy digging deep holes?
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I'm talking of the player himself rather than what his team achieved. as I said, my opinion I'm not fussed either way if people don't agree with it.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35958.msg947833#msg947833 date=1253566961]
it wasn't just ONE season, my point is pirez' heights is higher than giggs' heights. my opinion you are all free to have your own.
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Neil, do you really enjoy digging deep holes?
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I'm talking of the player himself rather than what his team achieved. as I said, my opinion I'm not fussed either way if people don't agree with it.
What has Pires achieved that Giggs has not?
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=35958.msg947865#msg947865 date=1253573140]
What has Pires achieved that Giggs has not?
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I'm talking goals scored and assists made. I also don't remember united ever relying on giggs in the manner they did with ronaldo, or cantona or keane or the manner in which arsenal relied on pirez.
What has Pires achieved that Giggs has not?
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I'm talking goals scored and assists made. I also don't remember united ever relying on giggs in the manner they did with ronaldo, or cantona or keane or the manner in which arsenal relied on pirez.
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[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=35958.msg947865#msg947865 date=1253573140]
What has Pires achieved that Giggs has not?
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I'm talking goals scored and assists made. I also don't remember united ever relying on giggs in the manner they did with ronaldo, or cantona or keane or the manner in which arsenal relied on pirez.
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In the same way we rely on Reina?
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=35958.msg947865#msg947865 date=1253573140]
What has Pires achieved that Giggs has not?
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I'm talking goals scored and assists made. I also don't remember united ever relying on giggs in the manner they did with ronaldo, or cantona or keane or the manner in which arsenal relied on pirez.
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In the same way we rely on Reina?
[quote author=Paddy link=topic=35958.msg947872#msg947872 date=1253573609]
Spell his fucking name right.
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ha ha ha
Spell his fucking name right.
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ha ha ha
lets go on and talk about how great Sir Alex as a manager is? How he equal our league titles?
fuck them, scums are scums.... >🙁
fuck them, scums are scums.... >🙁
I was gonna do a thread on this, so glad DB got there anyway.
Yup, he was very good BUT... If I was Hughed I'd hang that little fuckwit Wright-Phillips out to dry. He was fucking awful, and pretty much the reason they lost that game. Everyone has shite games, everyone can get beaten by their oppoent, but he offered fuck all support, was cuaght out of position hundreds of times, and hung Richards out to dry. Every goal United got came from him either sleeping, or not bothering to track back.
Giggs waltzed around him all day long, and didn't even have to try to do it. I've seen fuck all Football news since Sunday, so I'm not sure if he was carrying an injury, if others have pointed this out, or if it's been noticed - but he was dreadful. His contribution for Rooney's first was laughable. And it got worse from then on in.
Richards never got further than 30 yards from Given's goal the entire second half, cos he'd no support from the little different strokes cunt. It's alright saying 'oh but City played too deep' but defence's automatically do that when midfielders are converging on them. You can't push up when you've got two players to contend with, as Richards nearly always did.
Anyway, a word on United. I thought Fletcher was the outstanding player on the pitch. He's now approaching the top echelons of midfielders playing in the Premier League. If you think that's shit, then you need to start watching him. He's excellent, and drove that team on relentlessly throughout the second period. He was everywhere, and made Hughes' decision to shift to a 4-4-2 embarassing. In Fletcher, Evra, Rooney, Vidic, and Giigs they've got proper quality. the problem as I see it is that maybe they don't have enough similar talent across the board. For once, the overall level of quality in the squad might be dipping a touch. Ferdinand's not gonna get any better, ditto Scholes, O'Shea's not a long-term solution, and personally I think Foster's shite. If they played Chelsea tomorrow, they'd lose.
Ferguson does though have money, and will spend. He'll spend the bulk of it next summer though, cos he'll not have the same talentpool to choose from in January. If we're ever gonna have a chance of overcoming those cunts, it's this season for me.
Yup, he was very good BUT... If I was Hughed I'd hang that little fuckwit Wright-Phillips out to dry. He was fucking awful, and pretty much the reason they lost that game. Everyone has shite games, everyone can get beaten by their oppoent, but he offered fuck all support, was cuaght out of position hundreds of times, and hung Richards out to dry. Every goal United got came from him either sleeping, or not bothering to track back.
Giggs waltzed around him all day long, and didn't even have to try to do it. I've seen fuck all Football news since Sunday, so I'm not sure if he was carrying an injury, if others have pointed this out, or if it's been noticed - but he was dreadful. His contribution for Rooney's first was laughable. And it got worse from then on in.
Richards never got further than 30 yards from Given's goal the entire second half, cos he'd no support from the little different strokes cunt. It's alright saying 'oh but City played too deep' but defence's automatically do that when midfielders are converging on them. You can't push up when you've got two players to contend with, as Richards nearly always did.
Anyway, a word on United. I thought Fletcher was the outstanding player on the pitch. He's now approaching the top echelons of midfielders playing in the Premier League. If you think that's shit, then you need to start watching him. He's excellent, and drove that team on relentlessly throughout the second period. He was everywhere, and made Hughes' decision to shift to a 4-4-2 embarassing. In Fletcher, Evra, Rooney, Vidic, and Giigs they've got proper quality. the problem as I see it is that maybe they don't have enough similar talent across the board. For once, the overall level of quality in the squad might be dipping a touch. Ferdinand's not gonna get any better, ditto Scholes, O'Shea's not a long-term solution, and personally I think Foster's shite. If they played Chelsea tomorrow, they'd lose.
Ferguson does though have money, and will spend. He'll spend the bulk of it next summer though, cos he'll not have the same talentpool to choose from in January. If we're ever gonna have a chance of overcoming those cunts, it's this season for me.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=35958.msg947908#msg947908 date=1253601887]
I was gonna do a thread on this, so glad DB got there anyway.
Yup, he was very good BUT... If I was Hughed I'd hang that little fuckwit Wright-Phillips out to dry. He was fucking awful, and pretty much the reason they lost that game. Everyone has shite games, everyone can get beaten by their oppoent, but he offered fuck all support, was cuaght out of position hundreds of times, and hung Richards out to dry. Every goal United got came from him either sleeping, or not bothering to track back.
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Absolutely right. It was mainly his fault that Johnson got so much flak for his last couple of England performances. It must be hell playing behind that pea-brained twit.
I was gonna do a thread on this, so glad DB got there anyway.
Yup, he was very good BUT... If I was Hughed I'd hang that little fuckwit Wright-Phillips out to dry. He was fucking awful, and pretty much the reason they lost that game. Everyone has shite games, everyone can get beaten by their oppoent, but he offered fuck all support, was cuaght out of position hundreds of times, and hung Richards out to dry. Every goal United got came from him either sleeping, or not bothering to track back.
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Absolutely right. It was mainly his fault that Johnson got so much flak for his last couple of England performances. It must be hell playing behind that pea-brained twit.
a soon as robinho is fit SWP will be out of the team, not that he (robinho) will track back more but he will certainly hold the ball better.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=35958.msg947836#msg947836 date=1253567282]
Decent game from Giggs. I fully expect him to recieve the Balon D'or on the strength of it.
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zackly.... fucking robbery.
Decent game from Giggs. I fully expect him to recieve the Balon D'or on the strength of it.
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zackly.... fucking robbery.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35958.msg947925#msg947925 date=1253605344]
a soon as robinho is fit SWP will be out of the team, not that he (robinho) will track back more but he will certainly hold the ball better.
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Not necessarily. Hughes has oftne found a way to get him into the side.
Last season he played quite a few games at CM, which is something I could never understood.
a soon as robinho is fit SWP will be out of the team, not that he (robinho) will track back more but he will certainly hold the ball better.
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Not necessarily. Hughes has oftne found a way to get him into the side.
Last season he played quite a few games at CM, which is something I could never understood.
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Pires was a phenomenal footballer in England. I wouldn't like to choose between them.
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