Mark Clattenburg: "We favoured the Mancs"
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As if I needed these 9mins to get me more wound up for tomorrow!
What a disgrace that was...
What a disgrace that was...
Klopp's obviously rattled old Clatters. He's 'clarified' what he said, as if he thinks people aren't capable of re-reading his previous comments!
I was disappointed, if not surprised, by the reaction of Liverpool's supporters and their former player Didi Hamann to what I'd said.
The way they interpreted my column was to suggest I'd said there was a refereeing 'bias' towards United. I did not, because there isn't and never has been.
I never used the word 'bias' anywhere. There used to be an 'aura' around United when Ferguson was there, yes. But that does not exist anymore.
Everyone should adopt Clatters' vocab. 'I was not acting in a biased way, m'lud. I was merely aware of an aura which affected my actions'.
I was disappointed, if not surprised, by the reaction of Liverpool's supporters and their former player Didi Hamann to what I'd said.
The way they interpreted my column was to suggest I'd said there was a refereeing 'bias' towards United. I did not, because there isn't and never has been.
I never used the word 'bias' anywhere. There used to be an 'aura' around United when Ferguson was there, yes. But that does not exist anymore.
Everyone should adopt Clatters' vocab. 'I was not acting in a biased way, m'lud. I was merely aware of an aura which affected my actions'.
Holy fuck.
On the take, clearly.
Red for Rio.
Yellow, then red for Neville.
Red for Ruud.
No pen to Mancs.
I stopped about half way.
You missed out Rooney and the other runt of the litter Neville.
I saw those, but it didn't look too nasty. I got no replays to be a proper VAR.
Is he really this thick? He attributed Klopp as suggesting there was an "aura" around United and he clearly used it in the context that it meant bias:
But he is wrong to suggest there is an aura around United that sees them given favourable decisions. There used to be when Fergie was there, but that has eased massively since he left.
Me too, it was the knowing that nobody put their studs through Ruud, Neville or Rooney in retaliation for them being utter cunts.
Utter cunts? I think utter jealous cunts is more accurate. If memory serves, they were totally full of themselves and Giggs I think it was spewed some shit about their ambition to go unbeaten in a season. They failed, which must have sucked, then to rub salt into their wounded pride, this vastly superior Arsenal team came along and did it without even trying. So yeah, utter jealous cunts.
This has gone southwards quite quickly. At least f365 reported the incongruous headlineeadline in the DM and what Clattenburg actually said. Predictably, the DM has hidden the article deep in the recesses of its website and has stopped accepting comments or "heavily moderating them in advance."
I really think his brain is a bit scrambled. He's watched lots of games since he retired and they've graduallly merged with his own experiences. For example:
"Klopp once tried to stare me out before a match. That's fine, he has a presence and an aura that he uses for the benefit of his team".
BEFORE a match? What was the point of that? I think he's seen coverage of how Klopp will watch the other side warming up before a game - when refs have no business being on the pitch - and somehow convinced himself he was standing next to him. He's desperate.
"Klopp once tried to stare me out before a match. That's fine, he has a presence and an aura that he uses for the benefit of his team".
BEFORE a match? What was the point of that? I think he's seen coverage of how Klopp will watch the other side warming up before a game - when refs have no business being on the pitch - and somehow convinced himself he was standing next to him. He's desperate.
He's now said Liverpool fans are misconstruing what he's said, and that there was never any favouritism
I mean....he wasn't subtle in what he said initially. He's clearly been bollocked and threatened with not being invited to the PGMOL christmas doo
I mean....he wasn't subtle in what he said initially. He's clearly been bollocked and threatened with not being invited to the PGMOL christmas doo
Once a ref, aways a ref. Most of them have got a surprisingly thin skin, given their job. You can see it in games - the ones who like to have 'bantz' usually reach for the card when they get any back. Clattenberg was like that. Now he thinks he can say something as outrageous as this and yet he gets all huffy when people react!
Mentally I think ex-refs still think they can blow a whistle and everyone shuts up. This time, thankfully, it looks like he's lost control of the narrative.
I also thought Halsey was a decent enough old-school type. He was and is absolutely loathed by Riley and his mates, so that's another thing in his favour.
Clattenberg, I think, came to symbolise all that is bad about modern refs. For one thing, he was quite shameless about making decisions - and not making them - to suit his status. Take his performance during Spurs' 2-2 draw with Chelsea in 2016: he later revealed he chose not to send off several players in order to avoid being the villain of the piece the next day. “If I sent three players off from Tottenham, what are the headlines? ‘Clattenburg cost Tottenham the title!’” - exactly the kind of attitude that really infuriates fans.
As far as his attitude to us, who knows, but he gave some terrible decisions against us whenever we played Chelsea.
This attitude fucking stinks. Ref the incident not the implications. It’s the same as letting everything go in the first 20 “not to ruin the game”.
It's not whether he was slightly generous to us.Fact is he clearly said Fergie had the refs in his pocket. And if any had the guts to rule against Fergie they never refed United again..or untill they got the message.
It hasn't changed that much and the London mob get favourable decisions as well. Obviously we have to be objective and say it evens out over the years, otherwise we get accused of "playing the victim" card. But when a top ref comes out and tells the truth we have a case.
It hasn't changed that much and the London mob get favourable decisions as well. Obviously we have to be objective and say it evens out over the years, otherwise we get accused of "playing the victim" card. But when a top ref comes out and tells the truth we have a case.
How many u turns have the referees done this season? It's crazy that anytime they get criticised in the press for another blatant fuck up they conveniently change the rules a week or so later. They phrase it as changing the interpretation or clarifying the rule but anyone with half a brain can see that they're attempting to cover for one of their colleagues who shit the bed.
Like a lot of people I've always hated referees as their lack of consistency within games, from game to game and towards certain clubs drove me crackers. VAR hasn't changed this at all as the same shit referees are making decisions or not bothering to make a judgement at all. I don't believe that the stockley park fuckers don't have access to the broadcasters transmissions as usually if the commentators don't make a fuss about an incident they won't even look at it or decide so quickly that there's no way they could have looked at it.
The Burnley game last week was a prime example of this with there were some questionable decisions made, first of all a Burnley player had the ball hit him on the hand and we were denied a penalty. Under the new interpretations it probably wasn't a penalty but the commentator on the stream I watched mentioned that the VAR check had been made and it was no penalty not more than 5 seconds after the incident had occurred and before the broadcaster had even had a chance to replay it. We've seen plenty of incidents take 4 or 5 minutes to be adjudicated and that's far too long but 5 seconds is just as ridiculous, almost as if they didn't bother looking at all.
The second dodgy decision or non decision was when Sadio Mane had a shot which he blazed over the bar, but just after he'd struck the ball a Burnley defender clattered into him and nothing was said in commentary about a penalty appeal and they never mentioned a VAR check. I can only imagine there wasn't one as the game wasn't held up at all and play resumed. I've seen plenty of penalties given this season where the player has kicked the ball and then subsequently been kicked himself and then received a penalty but fair enough if that's the way the referees and VAR officials are going to judge it then fine as long as they're consistent.
Burnley then received a penalty after Barnes kicked the ball over the bar and then just after that there was contact between Barnes and Alisson. Lo and behold a penalty was given even though the ball had gone over the bar and also Barnes kicked Alisson rather than the other way around. Having seen a replay I thought there was a good chance that it wasn't going to be given and the commentator and co commentator also had doubts about it being a penalty. The penalty was obviously given straight away and the referee wasn't asked to go and check the monitor. Consistent my Arse.
Like a lot of people I've always hated referees as their lack of consistency within games, from game to game and towards certain clubs drove me crackers. VAR hasn't changed this at all as the same shit referees are making decisions or not bothering to make a judgement at all. I don't believe that the stockley park fuckers don't have access to the broadcasters transmissions as usually if the commentators don't make a fuss about an incident they won't even look at it or decide so quickly that there's no way they could have looked at it.
The Burnley game last week was a prime example of this with there were some questionable decisions made, first of all a Burnley player had the ball hit him on the hand and we were denied a penalty. Under the new interpretations it probably wasn't a penalty but the commentator on the stream I watched mentioned that the VAR check had been made and it was no penalty not more than 5 seconds after the incident had occurred and before the broadcaster had even had a chance to replay it. We've seen plenty of incidents take 4 or 5 minutes to be adjudicated and that's far too long but 5 seconds is just as ridiculous, almost as if they didn't bother looking at all.
The second dodgy decision or non decision was when Sadio Mane had a shot which he blazed over the bar, but just after he'd struck the ball a Burnley defender clattered into him and nothing was said in commentary about a penalty appeal and they never mentioned a VAR check. I can only imagine there wasn't one as the game wasn't held up at all and play resumed. I've seen plenty of penalties given this season where the player has kicked the ball and then subsequently been kicked himself and then received a penalty but fair enough if that's the way the referees and VAR officials are going to judge it then fine as long as they're consistent.
Burnley then received a penalty after Barnes kicked the ball over the bar and then just after that there was contact between Barnes and Alisson. Lo and behold a penalty was given even though the ball had gone over the bar and also Barnes kicked Alisson rather than the other way around. Having seen a replay I thought there was a good chance that it wasn't going to be given and the commentator and co commentator also had doubts about it being a penalty. The penalty was obviously given straight away and the referee wasn't asked to go and check the monitor. Consistent my Arse.
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Like I said on the day, the PL's initial statement on the goal was nothing short of disgraceful and a cover up.
Everton means we can all blue fume it because that game stunk and I mean stunk of shit we only thought was common place in Serie A.
"LiVARpool" they say. Twats.
This aged well didn't it.
The halftime whistle against the scum was the final straw for me... Not only have the laws been 'applied' in a most curious way in our matches this season, almost always to our detriment, now he blows the half up too early as we're clean through on goal. I mean, he didn't just make a mistaken in the laws, he flat out broke them, by blowing early.
I just stared and laughed. There is no excuse for that. There just isn't. The scum get to win matches after they've actually ended, but we don't even get full halves, when we're looking like scoring... What else can you do but laugh?
I just stared and laughed. There is no excuse for that. There just isn't. The scum get to win matches after they've actually ended, but we don't even get full halves, when we're looking like scoring... What else can you do but laugh?
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