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MANCHESTER UNITED’S £1.6BILLION SHEIKH-UP

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This is shitty news tho. 🙁
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I don't really get that?

United has been superior to us over the 10-15 years from both an economical and sporting view anyways. It's not like new Arab owners will suddenly have the power to buy all the stars from all the other billionaires teams.

And if they SHOULD buy one of our key-players for any insane ammount of money we'd probably come out stronger anyways, like the Torres-case has just shown.

United for one wouldn't have been as good as they've been if it wasn't for their rather conservative approach and Ferguson. Had they bought say five new star-player in Summer they'd perhaps been less stable and players would start to unsettle. Money is a big factor of course but our owners, Citehs owners, Blackburns owners, Spurs owners etc. have all got them too.

Fear not.
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they should put that in the dictionary under 'complacency'.

like FFF said, it's not the end of the world exactly, but it would entrench their position as the overwhelming powerhouse of english football, and every other team would be fighting against the tide. i'd imagine it'd take extraordinarily savvy management to prevent them adding title upon title over the years; ok, we've already witnessed that for some time, but at least then we still had our diminishing stock of 11 titles in hand over them to console ourselves with. not any more.

it's not even as if our game has the sensible redistributive policies in place that the big american sports use to keep the sport interesting.
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No matter how hard I try mate I can't prevent some billionaire Sheik from buying the Mancs 🙂

I'm completely in agreement with regards to the need for a strict policy with regards to either a salary cap or a revenue/deficit-control at a bare minimum. That said however the comparative advantage United will gain from getting some wealthy Arab-owner will be less visible this day and age compared to when say Abramovich entered the fray.

And unless you want United to go bankrupt I don't think their current debt is of great use for us anyways. I'd like to think, and that may be a bit naive, that the league is won on the pitch rather than in the boardroom or at the financial controllers desk.
 
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When that happens....

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"Right move for me... want to win trophies... Chelsea... broken promises... blah blah... cannot blame me... whine whine..."
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And then this happens:

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when we were top we didn't cement our position

* global marketing

* increase the capacity of anfield

manu already have this in place and if their debt is removed they can pump their money back into the first team. it's a pretty scary thought.
 
Yeah the American way of distributing the wealth is a good thing. For a country that generally fears socialism their sports leagues make a good example of how it works. Their wage cap is also a good thing in my eyes, although for that to work over here all the European leagues would have to agree on it and I can't see that happening.
 
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I'd like to think, and that may be a bit naive, that the league is won on the pitch rather than in the boardroom or at the financial controllers desk.
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chelsea - 3 league titles since the arrival of their owner.
 
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I'd like to think, and that may be a bit naive, that the league is won on the pitch rather than in the boardroom or at the financial controllers desk.
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chelsea - 3 league titles since the arrival of their owner.
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you just spoiled my fun spidey baby. quick on the draw, impressive.
 
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I'd like to think, and that may be a bit naive, that the league is won on the pitch rather than in the boardroom or at the financial controllers desk.
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chelsea - 3 league titles since the arrival of their owner.
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you just spoiled my fun spidey baby. quick on the draw, impressive.
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if you want a crumb of comfort, in baseball the riches of the yankees dwarfs the red sox but nesv still turned them around despite an 86 year drought.




so just 66 years to wait for the league...
 
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LFC TV is still free on Sky here, I think; but you have to pay for it on Virgin Media.

Back home all the channels MUtv, Chelsea TV and LFC TV are pay-per-view.
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Avvy on virgin media xl package lfc.tv is free as is ESPN if im not mistaken
 
Although to be fair, they can back track on pretty much anything without a problem.

Rooney being a 'scouse bastard'
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What trophies are 'important'.

Asking them what a 'scouse bastard' actually means is usually entertaining, as they have no idea. Is it wayne rooney or is it matt busby? Or is it whatever fits with your agenda?
 
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Who shat in your cornflakes, Neil ?
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this is my natural disposition.
I'm a glass half empty kinda guy
spider 'cassandra' neil
 
Those thick cunts couldnt be bothered.

For years they were of the view that we didnt win in Istanbul coz it was a 'lottery'.

It's different for their scum against Chelsea tho.
 
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I'd like to think, and that may be a bit naive, that the league is won on the pitch rather than in the boardroom or at the financial controllers desk.
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chelsea - 3 league titles since the arrival of their owner.
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Spidey, it was a completely different league back then. Much less competitive when looked at from a financial view.
 
And of course, they all wear their green and gold fashion accessories over their official merchandise after reknewing their season tickets AGAIN.

Fuck them.
 
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I'd like to think, and that may be a bit naive, that the league is won on the pitch rather than in the boardroom or at the financial controllers desk.
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chelsea - 3 league titles since the arrival of their owner.
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Before the days of FFP though. Man U without debt will be a major financial force though.
 
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And of course, they all wear their green and gold fashion accessories over their official merchandise after reknewing their season tickets AGAIN.

Fuck them.
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haha, it really is almost inconceivably stupid to turn up in that garb to feed the glazers' debt habit.
 
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I'd like to think, and that may be a bit naive, that the league is won on the pitch rather than in the boardroom or at the financial controllers desk.
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chelsea - 3 league titles since the arrival of their owner.
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Before the days of FFP though. Man U without debt will be a major financial force though.
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But haven't they kind of always been that way for the past 15-years - at least when compared to us?

Maybe I'm wrong I just don't think it'll mean that much at this stage in history. We've got our own wealthy owners and every team outthere can't buy all the good footballers for themselves anyways. Both Citeh, Chelski, Spurs and to some extent us have got the financial power to compete for the same players these days. Probably Arsenal as well.
 
There's one trick I love to pull on the Mancs though.

Everytime they talk shit I ask them one question.

'Who was your manager before Fergie'.

I've asked it at least 7-8 times and they never know.

They troop off to the pubs wearing their AON shirts and sing 'Glory Glory' coz thats the only fucking song they know.

Oh, and 'When the Reds go marching pn' oblivious to the fact that Southampton (and us previously i think) sing that.

But then they SHRUG because they dont care that they're thick as long as YOONAITURD win the title.
 
To be honest, I hate the fans a lot more than the team.

One of my favourite players in the League was, actually..er..[size=5pt]Norman Whiteside[/size].

They're all cunts tho.
 
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when we were top we didn't cement our position

* global marketing

* increase the capacity of anfield

manu already have this in place and if their debt is removed they can pump their money back into the first team. it's a pretty scary thought.
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TBF when we were on top global marketing wasnt really as much of an issue, had we won the league in 92-95 I think we'd have been able to act a lot more effectively.

That said we were slow to make the most of our global fanbase & profit form that.
 
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when we were top we didn't cement our position

* global marketing

* increase the capacity of anfield

manu already have this in place and if their debt is removed they can pump their money back into the first team. it's a pretty scary thought.
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TBF when we were on top global marketing wasnt really as much of an issue, had we won the league in 92-95 I think we'd have been able to act a lot more effectively.

That said we were slow to make the most of our global fanbase & profit form that.
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Indeed it was different world back then, it was Satellite and Sky in particular that made clubs a global entity. We also had a capacity of over 55,000, which was as good as it got then really.

regards
 
It's about what we do in the future, not about what they do.

As with anything, good management and pure luck and we can take on anyone and anything.
 
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MANCHESTER UNITED’S £1.6BILLION SHEIKH-UP


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Why has every other club got a rich sheikh ownership but us?
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because our chelsea supporting chairman didn't want us to be stepping on roman's toes.
 
Well this was a load of bollocks over nothing eh ?

Manchester United have denied claims that a £1.6bn bid has been made for the club by buyers from the Middle East.

Reports have suggested owners the Glazer family are close to agreeing a deal to sell to a Qatari group.

But a United source told BBC Sport: "There has been no approach and one would not be welcome because the club is not for sale."

United's local rivals Manchester City were taken over in 2008 by Sheikh Mansour of the United Arab Emirates.

He has pumped around £1bn into the club in his attempt to turn them into a leading force in world football.

United were bought by the Glazers for £790m in May 2005 and came third behind Real Madrid and Barcelona in a global Football Money league table released on Thursday, with City up from 20th to 11th place.

The list was put together by accountancy firm Deloitte and based on revenues for the 2009/2010 season.

However, while they have continued to generate cash, the Glazers have been criticised for loading excessive debt on the club.

And, despite protests from fans' groups, the Glazer family did receive the backing of United boss Sir Alex Ferguson last July following the Red Knights, a group of wealthy supporters, putting their plans to try to buy the club on hold in June.

The latest links over the ownership of current Premier League leaders United come ahead of their latest meeting with City on Saturday.

City are five points behind United having played a game more going into the hugely-anticipated match at Old Trafford
 
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