I preserved it for you.Tried to edit post. Deleted it.
Still, no great loss.
I preserved it for you.Tried to edit post. Deleted it.
Still, no great loss.
I honestly have no idea what point you are trying to make with those examples.If you look at the management career paths of some of the most prominent coaches in the world right now, it's possible to separate them into 3 rough categories:
1. Italian World: take years to build careers from grassroots level.
Allegri: 4 clubs in Serie C and B, then Cagliari, then Milan and Juve
Ancelotti: Reggiana in Serie B (promoted), then already a big job with Parma (unusually quick rise for an Italian coach)
Simeone: 4 clubs in Argentina, Catania in Serie A, then Atletico Madrid (not Italian by birth, but clearly by mentality and career choices)
Conte: 2 teams in Serie B, then Atalanta, Siena, Juve, etc
2. Middle Europe: a balanced path from mid-table to the top
Klopp: Mainz, Dortmund, Liverpool
Tuchel: Augsburg, Mainz, Dortmund, PSG
Heynckes: Gladbach, then Bayern etc
Wenger: Nancy, Monaco, Japan, Arsenal
3. England, Spain, Portugal and Holland: go big right away
Guardiola: Barcelona etc
Zidane: Real Madrid
Mourinho: Benfica, Uniao de Leiria, Porto etc
Van Gaal: Ajax, Barca, etc
Hiddink: PSV, Fenerbahce, Valencia, Real Madrid etc
In terms of producing the best average quality of managers, the first path is clearly superior – Italian and Italian-educated managers generally dominate in the football world and they hardly ever need to hire a foreigner in Serie A (and unimaginable for the national team). But in terms of top, top talent I would argue that career path almost doesn't matter – the true greats of coaching will end up at the top either way, whether their first job is Barcelona or Reggiana. With all that said, I feel that for Arsenal's identity it would be actually more natural (and in a way more noble) to give a chance to someone like Arteta rather than step onto the "international coaching merry-go-round" with the usual names.
I honestly have no idea what point you are trying to make with those examples.
The line ‘It doesnt matter about your career path’ is the best bit.
Pretty much. I know im not really Ruriks target audience, same as I wasnt Ryans when he did all this shite 10 years ago, but the examples and categorisations are bizarre and random and a bit mad."I've done some analysis and after careful consideration and study of the available data, I have concluded that it doesn't matter"
"I've done some analysis and after careful consideration and study of the available data, I have concluded that it doesn't matter"
Hodgson all proven top flight managers.
You dont manage Nechatel and Xanalax or whatever unless you are shit hot.I just threw up
Hasenhuttl
People are sillyIt's amusing how people in the media now seem to love Rafa and think he's a really likeable and excellent manager. When he was with us he was sneered at. Today I've heard over-excited radio presenters suggesting Rafa should go to West Ham, Arsenal or Everton ('It doesn't matter these days,' claimed one of them, 'Liverpool fans wouldn't mind at all if he went to Everton, and Everton fans would love him'). Incredible.
Good point. I'm off to try and reintegrate the vomit back into my digestive systemYou dont manage Nechatel and Xanalax or whatever unless you are shit hot.
Erik de Vere just resigned from Strasbourg. Looks like he might be lined up for Arsenal.
You’re at it again Gene!!!!!
Erik de Vere just resigned from Strasbourg. Looks like he might be lined up for Arsenal.
Fonseca signing a new contract with Donetsk.
West Ham opting for Pellegrini it seems.
It would be, if the owners weren't ineptYep. I was never really that impressed with him, but it's still quite a coup for West Ham
Schteve McClaren to QPR
He’s a good coach. He did great things with the young players there and his low-press tactics are fun to watch.
Moyes is still being paid his 6 year contract from Man U and been sacked 4 times (I think) since signing the deal.