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Man City - anyone taking them seriously yet?

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- Sitting quietly behind the Chavs in second place.

- Huge and talented squad.

- Couple of early slip ups, but seem to be gaining form.

- Have beaten Liverpool and the Chavs already.

- Mancini adapting his game plans and rectifying on his mistakes from last season.


Still haven't seen anyone tip them for the title or take them very seriously.......so, question is - are they the real deal yet?
 
Obviously. They've got one of the best squads in the country, United are struggling, Arsenal are the same as ever.

Thye'll be Top 4 easily, but we all knew that anyway. I tipped them for a title challenge in August.
 
Right, United like shoddy this season. We're used to slow starts from them, but something doesn't feel right.

Arse, well, they're Arse....they will run at full speed for 3/4 of the Marathon then implode.


I still have my doubts about Mancini, but I think this season is when they could well run close to the Title.
 
It's impossible to disregard them. They're strong and their midfield looks the strongest in the league for sheer power. They'll still drop points as they acclimatise to each other, however top 2 in certainly not beyond them
 
We done our predictions in our office at the start of the season, my top four was

Chelsea
Man City
Mann Utd
Liverpool


We obv have no chance of getting 4th.
 
city will definitely be top 4, but i don't think they'll win it this year.

it'll be interesting to see what happens to the top 4 over the next 4 or 5 years, what with the uefa spending regs coming in soon. chelsea's an interesting one, because if they're going to maintain a stellar squad they better get spending quickly as so many of their best players are ageing: cole, terry, lampard, drogba, anelka, even malouda's getting on a bit i think. they won't be able to replace them properly if these uefa rules come in.

and obviously city will have massive problems given their wage bill is bigger than their entire revenue already.
 
Its different times in City these days. Back in the 80s there was a Norwegian international playing for them. He revealed later that the fist teamtalk he was involved in was quite short and very specific as all the manager told them was "pass to the players with blue socks."
 
Agree with peter hague: I don't think they'll win the league this season, but they certainly ought to finish in the top 4. I don't think that's guaranteed, though, because they've got far less experience (as a team) of such situations and such pressure. Then again, unlike the four teams they're up against, they don't have the distraction of the Champions League.

Are we out of it (ie top 4)? Yes, probably. But you never know for sure: a lot depends on what happens with our ownership and management.

I'd be amazed if Chelsea don't win the league this season though.
 
I read that that Sheikh mansour fella made 2.75 trillion million billion profit yesterday from selling Barclays back to themselves of some such shit...

Yeh they worry me, primarily becasue they are already better than us and secondarily because they are going to spend like its nothing until they win it, no messing.

We won't because we can't.

Parry=dozy fucking twat=fact
 
Mansoor has said he wont be spending so lavishly in the future.

He wants the team to start winning based on their existing members, which is pretty much what Abromavich did after making some massive purchases.
 
Broughton 'scoured the world' for sugar daddy

By Harry Harris, Football Correspondent

October 9, 2010


[size=11pt][size=10pt]Liverpool chairman Martin Broughton has revealed that he "scoured the world" in search of a sugar daddy owner in the mould of Roman Abramovich and Sheikh Mansour bin Zayed al-Nahyan but failed to find one.
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Broughton: "There are no more Romans"


While a section of Liverpool fans are concerned it will be a case of out of the frying pan into the fire by swapping one set of American owners with another, Broughton attempts to ease their worries in an exclusive interview with ESPNsoccernet while away in the States.

Instead of a billionaire, Liverpool will have a few multi-millionaires, and in the financially-competitive Premier League there is some scepticism about the men who own Boston Red Sox, New England Sports Ventures.

From his Washington hotel, Broughton told ESPNsoccernet that it might turn out to be better in the long run.

Broughton explained: "We searched the world looking for another owner like the ones at Chelsea and Manchester City. With all of Liverpool's traditions, heritage, history and powerful global brand, I must admit I thought it would be possible to find one.

"We hoped for someone who wanted a 'trophy asset', but having scoured the world without finding one, the conclusion is that there are no more Romans out there.

"Yes, of course, it is disappointing that even a name like Liverpool failed to attract one, so I cannot imagine other club having much luck."

I suggested to Broughton that it is very optimistic to believe that there are sugar daddies queueing up to buy Premier League clubs, when in reality that is not the case. The majority of Premier League clubs would leap at the chance of a takeover, and Liverpool at last have one, while many are still waiting in hope to clear their debts.

Broughton said: "Yes, everyone is aware of how many Premier League clubs there are for sale, but Liverpool is different, at least it should have been different, as it is a global brand compared to some of the other clubs, and for that reason you would have thought it would have appealed to a sugar daddy.

"But the truth is that there is only one Roman Abramovich, there is only one Sheikh Mansour, because we couldn't find another one."

Chelsea cost their Russian owner less than £70 million, taking control with a £17 million buyout of Ken Bates, although he invested half a billion from that point. It was the same at Manchester City, where there wasn't a premium price tag.

Broughton added: "With Liverpool, whatever the price to buy it, came a heavy obligation to spend something like £300 million on a new stadium, and £350 million of debt or an obligation to turn that into equity. Liverpool came with some heavy numbers, whereas Abramovich paid very little to gain control of Chelsea.

"So no matter how far and wide we looked there was no evidence of a sugar daddy type around.

"Perhaps it will end up being to our advantage, when the financial fair play rules apply in 2013, we will have the ideal owners in a way, owners who understand the commercial realities of a running a club and running a sporting team, and how to invest in the team, and produce a winning team.

"More reality will come in to football, and it is important that our supporters take this aspect on board. Put Manchester City to one side, and how many big money transfers were there this summer? Not that many. Reality is setting in across the board."
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Don't know if this has been posted, but it's quite interesting (and sad) at the same time.

Sod's law I guess.
 
[quote author=LadyRed link=topic=42217.msg1192557#msg1192557 date=1286792080]
We done our predictions in our office at the start of the season, my top four was

Chelsea
Man City
Mann Utd
Liverpool


We obv have no chance of getting 4th.
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I find it weird that most people disregard Arsenal for their top 4 predictions year in, year out. And they always finish top 4 (usually after being in with a title shout for much of the season).
 
I find it weird how many people dismissed City like so many dismissed Chelsea when I expressed my concerns that they would displace teams from the old top four. You can only play eleven players - they shouted, well that is true, but when the eleven eventually become class players everyone else has a problem.
The problem for Chelsea and City as I see it is when the new rules come in. We still have a lot more clout in marketing and overseas markets than they both have, Chelsea have bridged the gap slightly but if they start sliding that will evaporate quickly. They both have to build what they can and stockpile players before 2012 when they have to at least break even. These obscene amounts of money paid for no more than slightly above average players in some cases have really fucked the market up and made european football very unbalanced Sepp and Michele don't like that.
With no interest payments, a bigger capacity stadium and some reasonable investment from the prospective new owners we will be in a good position, certainly a better position than many. Arsenal will be in a great position.

regards
 
I just have to assume that these rules aren't going to be as hard-hitting as is made out and some of these clubs have a plan as to how to get round 'em.

Inter are still making massive losses and I can't imagine UEFA will be banning them along with a number of other top clubs from European competitions.
 
UEFA might well want to ban them, but the TV companies probably won't be so keen. I fear there's too much money at stake for simple principles - however sound and needed, in this case - to prevail.
 
I'm not sold yet, though their squad is excellent, I still think they like a top tier player (though Tevez is as close as it gets).

I think you have to consider how inconsistent everyone bar Chelsea have been so far.
 
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