Mainz vs Liverpool match thread
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Watch some our fans go mental after this loss. Doesnt mean much really losing this game.
Look at that side. Full of players that wont be in contention for next week.
We also played yesterday.
Matip is coming back of that ankle injury, so he's a few weeks off now. But started decent and will be a great player for us.
If anything we can question playing this game after yesterday, but it gives some needed fitness to some.
Look at that side. Full of players that wont be in contention for next week.
We also played yesterday.
Matip is coming back of that ankle injury, so he's a few weeks off now. But started decent and will be a great player for us.
If anything we can question playing this game after yesterday, but it gives some needed fitness to some.
I'm reading nothing into this game and loads into the game against Barcelona.
One more!
Ha ha - I'm stealing that.
There's obviously a trend going on now, back from at least Van Gaal's outburst when he took over the mancs, about the commercial wing burdening clubs with lucrative but downright impractical foreign tours, and hopefully Klopp will intervene next year and prevent his pre-season plans being disrupted by these godawful PR jaunts. There should be no stupid tournaments, no endless people-pleasing tours and no ridiculous friendly fixture congestion. Just choose a training base and tell the commercial sector to exploit the hell out of it but to leave the squad to get fit.
I wonder who has the final say on these things though? It's fairly lucrative to the club now, it's the same with everyone, so from a financial and commercial viewpoint, it's in he club's best interests. As you say though, the scheduling is hectic and the back to back games this weekend is, frankly, ridiculous and potentially damaging - we've walked away with at least three injuries and for all the supposed match practice, thanks to the Euro's and a few injuries, we've got several first teamers who look desperately off the pace.
No one should read anything into these friendlies including the Barca game.
If it hadn't been Klopp's old club he surely wouldn't even have gone. Inglethorpe would just have taken the ressies over there. Two games in two days, with travel, is stupid, even with a rotated squad. If a team wants to start climbing back to where it once was, there has to be professionalism and scrupulous attention to detail at every level, and yet here we are, messing around with that nonsense with a week to go before the start of a really hard season.
I don't think anyone is reading much into pre-season results, but it does seem redolent of last season: some astonishing, morale-boosting and notable victories, followed by an immediate, inexplicable capitulation.
It happened time and time again under Klopp
It happened time and time again under Klopp
Wisdom reminds me of El Zahr in that he proved ages ago that he was never going to be a potential first team player and should have been sold but is still here 5 years later! Wisdom will do a decent job at the top end of the Championship so hopefully we can shift him for £4m to a promotion-chasing team.
He once had real promise and also seemed mature beyond his years. That's why I find his dramatic decline quite a jolt. Losing your way physically and even technically, yes, I've seen that happen too many times, but to go from seeming a natural-looking leader of a youth team, for club and country, to someone whom I probably wouldn't trust to buy a pint of milk, well, it's pretty depressing. And he now seems to suffer brain freeze when the ball comes into the box. I saw him give away a couple of penalties when on loan in similarly silly positions. It's sad to say but I think he's really lost it, big time.
Yep Wisdom along with Coady were among the brightest stars in the U17s that won the U17 Euros.
Had great potential. Trouble started when he was being moved around.
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he's not really been here long enough to be using the term "time and again" for jaysis sakes.
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