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Luis Suarez back at Melwood

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Respectfully disagree Macca. I love the bitey twat and consider it an absolute privilege that I saw him play. Yeah it sucked that he left but he really was a special player for us. He clearly loves the club - I don't begrudge him in the slightest.

His obvious and lengthy flirtations with Arsenal - or anyone else apart from Liverpool - the year before he left was obviously annoying, as he wanted to join them very much. His eventual departure to Barca after that season was inevitable and nobody could begrudge him that move, nor argue that it wasn't exactly the right one. He deserved to play in a much better team, with better players and win lots of trophies.

Wasn't going to happen at Liverpool.

And I don't doubt for a second his residual affection for the club and the fans. But I don't in any way feel much gratitude towards him. He played for Liverpool and gave us everything he could. Which is the least I expect of any player. It's just that his best was miles ahead of anyone else at the time.
 
I never warm to that sort of PR. He left us in a cynical manner and buggered up a team that could have gone on to do something special. It doesn't make my day when he or another ex-star goes on to say how much they still like the place. Stay away.

Yup the little fecker loved us so much he threw his toys out the pram when he didn't get his move to the Arse.
 
I remember some fucking bellend on a Forum suggesting that we dropped Suarez for Adam Morgan, because he was an obviously better finisher.

That's actually worse than suggesting we replace Benitez with Roy Hodgson, because he would "get us back to basics"
 
I remember some fucking bellend on a Forum suggesting that we dropped Suarez for Adam Morgan, because he was an obviously better finisher.

That's actually worse than suggesting we replace Benitez with Roy Hodgson, because he would "get us back to basics"


Rosco?
 
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Yup the little fecker loved us so much he threw his toys out the pram when he didn't get his move to the Arse.

But because he's such a supremely gifted and ferocious competitor, after that move collapsed, he carried on sulking so much that he scored 31 goals the next season, n one of the greatest, sustained individual displays of talent anyone at Anfield has ever seen.
 
But because he's such a supremely gifted and ferocious competitor, after that move collapsed, he carried on sulking so much that he scored 31 goals the next season, n one of the greatest, sustained individual displays of talent anyone at Anfield has ever seen.

Well off course, although I remember John Barnes pre injury, but a more committed effort would be hard to find. However it doesn't take away from the fact that he couldn't wait to get away from us two seasons running so the faux love since just makes me want to heave. If he misses us that much then just come back and play for us, otherwise just feck off!
 
Well off course, although I remember John Barnes pre injury, but a more committed effort would be hard to find. However it doesn't take away from the fact that he couldn't wait to get away from us two seasons running so the faux love since just makes me want to heave. If he misses us that much then just come back and play for us, otherwise just feck off!

It's possible to miss Liverpool but also - correctly - want to stay at a far more successful, richer club where he has won two league titles and a European Cup in two seasons.
 
I don't think he's been back to Groningen but they are a bit shit and he did take them to court to try and leave.
 
I don't think he's been back to Groningen but they are a bit shit and he did take them to court to try and leave.

Right, so his reasons for visiting Liverpool are what, exactly? Guilt? A sense of responsibility? Trying to ensure a possible return once he is surplus to requirements at Barcelona?

It definitely couldn't be because he has an affinity and respect for a club where he spent four seasons and cemented his reputation as one of the best players in the world, and where there is many staff and players he likes and respects.

I suspect his interviews and meetings with players like Steven Gerrard and Jamie Carragher, where the mutual admiration and genuine affection on display, was actually all a miserable cynical charade in which poor old Carra and Stevie were unwilling dupes
 
If the club is fair to him then he will be fair to them. The club leid to him about the clause in the contract, the £40m+ one, so I understand that he was a bit upset at that time. They talked and he signed a new deal that allowed him to leave for £75m+ next summer. Gerrard convinced him to stay in the same way he convinced Xabi to stay another year.
 
If the club is fair to him then he will be fair to them. The club leid to him about the clause in the contract, the £40m+ one, so I understand that he was a bit upset at that time. They talked and he signed a new deal that allowed him to leave for £75m+ next summer. Gerrard convinced him to stay in the same way he convinced Xabi to stay another year.

Shut up, Arn
 
If the club is fair to him then he will be fair to them. The club leid to him about the clause in the contract, the £40m+ one, so I understand that he was a bit upset at that time. They talked and he signed a new deal that allowed him to leave for £75m+ next summer. Gerrard convinced him to stay in the same way he convinced Xabi to stay another year.

I'll convince myself to slap your fucking head off if you dont shut up.
 
Im on team Macca here.

Fuck Luis Suarez and Alonso and any other soft spot having cunts who left us for a greener grass

'My heart will always be at Anfield'

Yeah but your fucking boots are in Spain yer cunt.
 
So @hamstrung_pigeon was one of the D&D crew at school, who used to sit in the cloakroom comparing clarks comandoes shoes and rolling dice to see who got to slay the dragon & kiss the imaginary princess.

Brave man for admitting it - have you recovered from the wedgies yet?

😉
 
So @hamstrung_pigeon was one of the D&D crew at school, who used to sit in the cloakroom comparing clarks comandoes shoes and rolling dice to see who got to slay the dragon & kiss the imaginary princess.

Brave man for admitting it - have you recovered from the wedgies yet?

😉

I would've thought that was pretty obvious from my obsession with numbers in my posts. 😀
 
He was great but his last 18 months with us were him in his personal shop window. Couldn't help but think that the benefit we got from it was incidental to him getting a move (to anywhere).
Any of the Suarez, Torres, Masch lot can do one. The only one I had any sympathy for was Xabi after the Fat Controller dicked him about.
 
He was great but his last 18 months with us were him in his personal shop window. Couldn't help but think that the benefit we got from it was incidental to him getting a move (to anywhere).
Any of the Suarez, Torres, Masch lot can do one. The only one I had any sympathy for was Xabi after the Fat Controller dicked him about.

You do know that a big reason to why Xabi moved to Real was because of the lower taxes in Spain? He said so himself. He may love Liverpool but not more than he love money.

You do know that we tried to sell him a year before he left because he had played so shit that we needed someone better than him? He discovered that he had played so shit that no one of Barcelona or Real Madrid wanted him so he stayed another year playing much better and suddenly Real wanted him a year later. IMO he used his last season with us as his personal shop window. Gerrard have more or less confirmed that. He said that he convinced Xabi to stay another year and maybe Real or Barcelona would then be interested instead of Juventus.
 
Imagine we actually got back into the Champions League. We'd have old mate Mamadou Sakho there having to mark Luis fucking Suarez.

Pure rape city.
 
If him popping back in from time to time eventually led to his permanent return I'd be a very happy man.
 
HA HA HA

The above post can be translated into Rafa > Xabi.

So you believe that both Gerrard and Xabi lied?

You do know that we needed £30m to pay the rent on the loan? So my question to you would be who we would have sold instead because we had to sell a player or players for £30m? Maybe you wanted us to do a Leeds instead of selling a player or players for £30m. That was the other option.
 
As I see it we had to sell one of Gerrard, Xabi, Torres. Selling Xabi was probably the right decision.
 
So you believe that both Gerrard and Xabi lied?

You do know that we needed £30m to pay the rent on the loan? So my question to you would be who we would have sold instead because we had to sell a player or players for £30m? Maybe you wanted us to do a Leeds instead of selling a player or players for £30m. That was the other option.

Oh god.
Now we needed the money to pay the loan BUT beforehand it was Xabi looking to move to make more $$$
 
Oh god.
Now we needed the money to pay the loan BUT beforehand it was Xabi looking to move to make more $$$

Xabi Alonso warns that tax will drive top players away

Even footballers have turned on the government. Xabi Alonso believes Gordon Brown's economic policies have weakened English football and that the Premier League's star players could be forced to the Continent to escape the weak pound and the incoming 50p tax rate.


Alonso is refusing to commit himself to Liverpool next season, with Real Madrid eager to to take him to the Bernabeu, and with Alonso estimating he is losing a third of his earnings he is edging closer to a return to Spain.
"Of course we footballers think about it; we are not stupid, we keep an eye on it," Alonso said. "When you see your contract down by 30 per cent you cannot be happy. I cannot do anything – it must be Gordon Brown or David Cameron.

" I think the weakness of the sterling is not helping the Premiership because for those competing and fighting against the European teams it is a big weak point. Hopefully over the next few months and years it will get back to what it was not so long ago."
Liverpool are determined to keep Alonso despite Real Madrid's very public interest, but having just published worrying financial results and with Rafael Benitez having to work with a restricted transfer budget, the Anfield club might be forced to sell, especially if the player wants to leave. Alonso, in South Africa with the Spain squad for the Confederations Cup, pointedly refused to answer questions about his future at Liverpool.

His Anfield colleague Fernando Torres admitted he was concerned about losing his Spain team-mates Alonso and Alvaro Arbeloa to La Liga but insisted that playing for a club with the traditions of Liverpool should count for more than a decline in your net income.

"I worry about losing my team-mates, of course," Torres said. "But when you play for a team like Liverpool you don't have to worry about that. You are a top player and you will get a good contract. You don't have to be scared to lose a little bit of money."
That depends on your definition of 'little'. Alonso signed a five-year contract with Liverpool in 2007 worth an estimated £65,000 a week. At the time there were €1.48 to the pound so he was on €96,200 per week but due to the weakness of the pound that has fallen to €76,700 a week. When the 50p tax rate comes in next April that will drop to €69,000 a week, so he could be losing €27,200 every week compared to what he was earning back in 2007. Overall, Alonso fears he could end up losing nearly £1.2 million per year.

Alonso is not the only player unhappy with the British tax system. Andrei Arshavin, of Arsenal, claimed he had an "unpleasant surprise" when he opened his first pay packet and saw how much he was paying in tax. The Russian international is now trying to renegotiate his £80,000 a week contract to ensure he has a higher net earning.
Clubs across the country are concerned that foreign players are using the weak pound as an excuse to get a pay rise.
Arsene Wenger, the Arsenal manager, predicted back in April that "the domination of the Premier League will go" because of the government's tax policy and the fact that the United Kingdom has been hit particularly hard by the financial crisis. His prophecy seems to have been realised.

Accountants working with footballers and clubs are trying to come up with all sorts of ways of avoiding paying the top tax rate. One option being explored is paying players in interest-free loans which would attract a much lower tax rate. But ultimately, it seems the power base has shifted to the Continent.
That is particularly true of Spain, who can set up foreign players as 'company executives' who have a preferential 23 per cent tax rate for the first six years. David Beckham was on this kind of deal and Cristiano Ronaldo and Kaka will be on a similar scheme. Obviously this gives clubs like Real Madrid and Barcelona a real competitive advantage in the market.

Sam Rush, whose WMG agency look after Michael Owen and Steven Gerrard, believes English clubs will have to bear the brunt of the cost as foreign players will increasingly demand to have contracts net of tax.
"If clubs want to keep top players they are going to have to push the boundaries of their financial parameters," he said. "In Europe sums are offered net of tax. That's ultimately what's going to happen here in the UK."

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/sport/fo...rns-that-tax-will-drive-top-players-away.html
 
http://www.lfchistory.net/Transfers/BySeason/119

Link to the players we sold and signed the season he left. You will discover that we only signed players from clubs that owed us money excapt one deal, Sterling £500k from QPR.

Portsmouth owed us money after the Crouch deal.

Roma owed us money after the Riise deal.

AEK Athens owed us money after the Nemeth deal.

We signed Maxi on a free transfer.

Strange, or maybe not. You will also discover if you search the net how we paid for Aquilani and got all the Xabi money upfront.
 
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