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Lucas named in Brazil's final warm-up friendly

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...which we all know is more or less the final squad.

Do you still think Brazil stand a chance to win the WC now that Lucas is part of the team ??

Am I being too harsh ?

Ok maybe just a teeny weeny bit...
 
Great for the lad.
I like him, and am becoming more of a fan as the weeks roll by.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38857.msg1052080#msg1052080 date=1265729196]
Great for the lad.
I like him, and am becoming more of a fan as the weeks roll by.
[/quote]

It's not like you to go from one extreme viewpoint to another
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38857.msg1052091#msg1052091 date=1265729621]
Brendan - what can Lucas do to lessen the hatred you feel for him? Please keep answers PG-13.
[/quote]

Not be a really mediocre footballer at best.

ie never going to happen.
 
Goalkeepers: Julio Cesar (Inter Milan), Doni (Roma).

Defenders: Maicon (Inter Milan), Daniel Alves (Barcelona), Gilberto (Cruzeiro), Michel Bastos (Lyon), Juan (Roma), Lucio (Inter Milan), Luisao (Benfica), Thiago Silva (AC Milan).

Midfielders: Gilberto Silva (Panathinaikos), Josue (Wolfsburg), Felipe Melo (Juventus), Lucas (Liverpool), Kaka (Real Madrid), Ramires (Benfica), Elano (Galatasaray), Julio Baptista (Roma), Kleberson (Flamengo).

Forwards: Robinho (Santos), Adriano (Flamengo), Nilmar (Villarreal), Luis Fabiano (Seville).

No Ronaldinho or Pato.
That strikeforce, bar Adriano, isn't going to win you the WC.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=38857.msg1052087#msg1052087 date=1265729426]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38857.msg1052080#msg1052080 date=1265729196]
Great for the lad.
I like him, and am becoming more of a fan as the weeks roll by.
[/quote]

It's not like you to go from one extreme viewpoint to another
[/quote]Ive never been particularly anti Lucas. I don't think you have thought that response through. He's not good enough at the moment for a side looking to win titles, but he's nowhere near as bad as you make out.
 
[quote author=Roger REDerer link=topic=38857.msg1052094#msg1052094 date=1265729704]
Goalkeepers: Julio Cesar (Inter Milan), Doni (Roma).

Defenders: Maicon (Inter Milan), Daniel Alves (Barcelona), Gilberto (Cruzeiro), Michel Bastos (Lyon), Juan (Roma), Lucio (Inter Milan), Luisao (Benfica), Thiago Silva (AC Milan).

Midfielders: Gilberto Silva (Panathinaikos), Josue (Wolfsburg), Felipe Melo (Juventus), Lucas (Liverpool), Kaka (Real Madrid), Ramires (Benfica), Elano (Galatasaray), Julio Baptista (Roma), Kleberson (Flamengo).

Forwards: Robinho (Santos), Adriano (Flamengo), Nilmar (Villarreal), Luis Fabiano (Seville).

No Ronaldinho or Pato.
That strikeforce, bar Adriano, isn't going to win you the WC.
[/quote]

Yes, because Robinho and Fabiano are both shit, aren't they ?
 
that team looks very average attacking wise - bar Kaka and perhaps Fabiano.

Pato has to be on that squad come the World Cup, and they'd be mental not to take Ronaldinho who's actually been very good this year.
 
Why not? Fabiano and Robinho score goals at that level and Kaka is a class act.

Is Pato injured at the moment?
 
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=38857.msg1052103#msg1052103 date=1265730035]
aurelio's world cup dream disappearing in front of his eyes because of insua.
[/quote]

Why ?
Has Insua been injuring Aurelio ?
 
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=38857.msg1052109#msg1052109 date=1265730147]
Why not? Fabiano and Robinho score goals at that level and Kaka is a class act.

Is Pato injured at the moment?
[/quote]

Fabiano is a good player - but I don't really see him as a 'great' striker. And Robinho ... well ... he hasn't done much the past few months ...

Pato is on the comeback trail I think.
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38857.msg1052112#msg1052112 date=1265730304]
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=38857.msg1052109#msg1052109 date=1265730147]
Why not? Fabiano and Robinho score goals at that level and Kaka is a class act.

Is Pato injured at the moment?
[/quote]

Fabiano is a good player - but I don't really see him as a 'great' striker. And Robinho ... well ... he hasn't done much the past few months ...

Pato is on the comeback trail I think.
[/quote]I believe he has the all time best goals to games ratio for Brazil.
 
[quote author=themn link=topic=38857.msg1052106#msg1052106 date=1265730077]
[quote author=Roger REDerer link=topic=38857.msg1052094#msg1052094 date=1265729704]
Goalkeepers: Julio Cesar (Inter Milan), Doni (Roma).

Defenders: Maicon (Inter Milan), Daniel Alves (Barcelona), Gilberto (Cruzeiro), Michel Bastos (Lyon), Juan (Roma), Lucio (Inter Milan), Luisao (Benfica), Thiago Silva (AC Milan).

Midfielders: Gilberto Silva (Panathinaikos), Josue (Wolfsburg), Felipe Melo (Juventus), Lucas (Liverpool), Kaka (Real Madrid), Ramires (Benfica), Elano (Galatasaray), Julio Baptista (Roma), Kleberson (Flamengo).

Forwards: Robinho (Santos), Adriano (Flamengo), Nilmar (Villarreal), Luis Fabiano (Seville).

No Ronaldinho or Pato.
That strikeforce, bar Adriano, isn't going to win you the WC.
[/quote]

Yes, because Robinho and Fabiano are both shit, aren't they ?
[/quote]

No but you are.
 
It doesn't matter if you think hes great or not. His strike rate for Brazil is very good. 25 goals in 36 games.

I guess Robinho scores around 1 in 3 for them aswell despite being more of a provider and playing wide?
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38857.msg1052112#msg1052112 date=1265730304]
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=38857.msg1052109#msg1052109 date=1265730147]
Why not? Fabiano and Robinho score goals at that level and Kaka is a class act.

Is Pato injured at the moment?
[/quote]

Fabiano is a good player - but I don't really see him as a 'great' striker. And Robinho ... well ... he hasn't done much the past few months ...

Pato is on the comeback trail I think.
[/quote]

Brazil create a shed load of chances and Fabiano is very good at putting enough of those away to win games.

Robinho is a different player in a Brazil shirt.

He scored the winner for Santos at the weekend.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38857.msg1052116#msg1052116 date=1265730499]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38857.msg1052112#msg1052112 date=1265730304]
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=38857.msg1052109#msg1052109 date=1265730147]
Why not? Fabiano and Robinho score goals at that level and Kaka is a class act.

Is Pato injured at the moment?
[/quote]

Fabiano is a good player - but I don't really see him as a 'great' striker. And Robinho ... well ... he hasn't done much the past few months ...

Pato is on the comeback trail I think.
[/quote]I believe he has the all time best goals to games ratio for Brazil.

[/quote]

Baros had a nice strike rate for the Czechs too.
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38857.msg1052137#msg1052137 date=1265731348]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38857.msg1052116#msg1052116 date=1265730499]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38857.msg1052112#msg1052112 date=1265730304]
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=38857.msg1052109#msg1052109 date=1265730147]
Why not? Fabiano and Robinho score goals at that level and Kaka is a class act.

Is Pato injured at the moment?
[/quote]

Fabiano is a good player - but I don't really see him as a 'great' striker. And Robinho ... well ... he hasn't done much the past few months ...

Pato is on the comeback trail I think.
[/quote]I believe he has the all time best goals to games ratio for Brazil.

[/quote]

Baros had a nice strike rate for the Czechs too.
[/quote]Okay, I'm puzzled as to what point you are trying to argue now? I'm saying Fabiano is plenty good enough to lead the line for Brazil. You counter that by pointing out that Baros was good enough to lead the line for Czech republic.......
You've lost me tbf.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38857.msg1052170#msg1052170 date=1265733101]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38857.msg1052137#msg1052137 date=1265731348]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38857.msg1052116#msg1052116 date=1265730499]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38857.msg1052112#msg1052112 date=1265730304]
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=38857.msg1052109#msg1052109 date=1265730147]
Why not? Fabiano and Robinho score goals at that level and Kaka is a class act.

Is Pato injured at the moment?
[/quote]

Fabiano is a good player - but I don't really see him as a 'great' striker. And Robinho ... well ... he hasn't done much the past few months ...

Pato is on the comeback trail I think.
[/quote]I believe he has the all time best goals to games ratio for Brazil.

[/quote]

Baros had a nice strike rate for the Czechs too.
[/quote]Okay, I'm puzzled as to what point you are trying to argue now? I'm saying Fabiano is plenty good enough to lead the line for Brazil. You counter that by pointing out that Baros was good enough to lead the line for Czech republic.......
You've lost me tbf.
[/quote]
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38857.msg1052170#msg1052170 date=1265733101]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38857.msg1052137#msg1052137 date=1265731348]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38857.msg1052116#msg1052116 date=1265730499]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38857.msg1052112#msg1052112 date=1265730304]
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=38857.msg1052109#msg1052109 date=1265730147]
Why not? Fabiano and Robinho score goals at that level and Kaka is a class act.

Is Pato injured at the moment?
[/quote]

Fabiano is a good player - but I don't really see him as a 'great' striker. And Robinho ... well ... he hasn't done much the past few months ...

Pato is on the comeback trail I think.
[/quote]I believe he has the all time best goals to games ratio for Brazil.

[/quote]

Baros had a nice strike rate for the Czechs too.
[/quote]Okay, I'm puzzled as to what point you are trying to argue now? I'm saying Fabiano is plenty good enough to lead the line for Brazil. You counter that by pointing out that Baros was good enough to lead the line for Czech republic.......
You've lost me tbf.
[/quote]

a) I never said Fabiano couldn't lead the line for Brazil, I just don't think he's a great striker
b) I just don't think he's the quality they need to win the World Cup -
 
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38857.msg1052173#msg1052173 date=1265733315]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38857.msg1052170#msg1052170 date=1265733101]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38857.msg1052137#msg1052137 date=1265731348]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38857.msg1052116#msg1052116 date=1265730499]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38857.msg1052112#msg1052112 date=1265730304]
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=38857.msg1052109#msg1052109 date=1265730147]
Why not? Fabiano and Robinho score goals at that level and Kaka is a class act.

Is Pato injured at the moment?
[/quote]

Fabiano is a good player - but I don't really see him as a 'great' striker. And Robinho ... well ... he hasn't done much the past few months ...

Pato is on the comeback trail I think.
[/quote]I believe he has the all time best goals to games ratio for Brazil.

[/quote]

Baros had a nice strike rate for the Czechs too.
[/quote]Okay, I'm puzzled as to what point you are trying to argue now? I'm saying Fabiano is plenty good enough to lead the line for Brazil. You counter that by pointing out that Baros was good enough to lead the line for Czech republic.......
You've lost me tbf.
[/quote]

a) I never said Fabiano couldn't lead the line for Brazil, I just don't think he's a great striker
b) I just don't think he's the quality they need to win the World Cup -
[/quote]So the fact he's Brazils best and most reliable goalscorer and scores almost whenever he plays, plus the fact he scores 20+ a season isn't enough to..............oh you know what I don't care enough to bother continuing this.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38857.msg1052181#msg1052181 date=1265733727]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38857.msg1052173#msg1052173 date=1265733315]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38857.msg1052170#msg1052170 date=1265733101]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38857.msg1052137#msg1052137 date=1265731348]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=38857.msg1052116#msg1052116 date=1265730499]
[quote author=LeTallecWiz link=topic=38857.msg1052112#msg1052112 date=1265730304]
[quote author=Whitey85 link=topic=38857.msg1052109#msg1052109 date=1265730147]
Why not? Fabiano and Robinho score goals at that level and Kaka is a class act.

Is Pato injured at the moment?
[/quote]

Fabiano is a good player - but I don't really see him as a 'great' striker. And Robinho ... well ... he hasn't done much the past few months ...

Pato is on the comeback trail I think.
[/quote]I believe he has the all time best goals to games ratio for Brazil.

[/quote]

Baros had a nice strike rate for the Czechs too.
[/quote]Okay, I'm puzzled as to what point you are trying to argue now? I'm saying Fabiano is plenty good enough to lead the line for Brazil. You counter that by pointing out that Baros was good enough to lead the line for Czech republic.......
You've lost me tbf.
[/quote]

a) I never said Fabiano couldn't lead the line for Brazil, I just don't think he's a great striker
b) I just don't think he's the quality they need to win the World Cup -
[/quote]So the fact he's Brazils best and most reliable goalscorer and scores almost whenever he plays, plus the fact he scores 20+ a season isn't enough to..............oh you know what I don't care enough to bother continuing this.

[/quote]

ok ... we'll see during the tournament.

Have a good night.
 
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