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Liverpool, Wataru upto?

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Sorry but no there isn't : Virgil (Dutch captain)' Ali, Robbo (Scotland"s captain), Thiago, Mo (Egpyt's captain) and Szobo is the CZ captain and some others played in a team / squad challenging for 4 titles to the end! How many other squads can boast of 4 national captains? We have tons of experience and leadership.

Apologies, I should have been more clear in my post. I was considering the midfield alone. Thiago, yes, but he’s so often injured, sadly. Szobo perhaps for his national team, but he’s new to us and the league, which can make a big difference. For me, we still need a calm experienced head in the middle. It’s what Milner used to offer when Klopp would throw him on at the end of a game to keep things calm in the middle.

Off topic to some degree, but I hope we still have the dressing room captains to fill the void left by Hendo and Millie too. On the pitch is essential, of course, but there’s a lot to be said for what happens off the pitch too.
 
No one's crucifying him, we all have see the stats, he is good. Its the price, in the last year of his contract and 31. We are questioning it. If we win the Europa Cup and finished top 4, and he is major part of that, we will stop questioning it

I think the price is correct given his experience, and the fact that he is captain of that team and the Japan National team, and by the stats is one of the best midfielders in the German league. I don't think there is an issue with it at all given the price of all these other bang average midfielders out there at the moment.
 
Is the German league just poor or something, cos this guy is gliding past players for fun in those clips, and has quite a shot on him. I've got a feeling he'll be better than we're expecting, definitely an improvement on what Milner was offering.
 
Is the German league just poor or something, cos this guy is gliding past players for fun in those clips, and has quite a shot on him. I've got a feeling he'll be better than we're expecting, definitely an improvement on what Milner was offering.

Age (he's 30, not 32 or 34), ethnicity (sorry, I do think this came into play in some fans' mind), team he plays for, disappointment from missing out on Caicedo and Lavia. Pretty unfair imo.
 
Age (he's 30, not 32 or 34), ethnicity (sorry, I do think this came into play in some fans' mind), team he plays for, disappointment from missing out on Caicedo and Lavia. Pretty unfair imo.
From what I’ve seen, admittedly YouTube highlights and comments from those who’ve watched him, I’d rather have him than someone who would rather the bright lights of London (which he’s entitled to.)
 
Is the German league just poor or something, cos this guy is gliding past players for fun in those clips, and has quite a shot on him. I've got a feeling he'll be better than we're expecting, definitely an improvement on what Milner was offering.

I also think this guy will be very good, he might be the perfect fit for us. Lets give him a chance. I was looking at the results of his team last season, there were two 5-0 drubbings for his team against both Bayern and Dortmund, but at the same time they managed to get a draw also with both teams in on one of the two fixtures. What I am worried about is the fact that he won't be available due to the Asia Cup later in the year, so that's going to be a problem for us.

Can i just also add, that getting him might mean that other teams don't look at us as desperate for DM's as were before, and ease negotiations. I still want Fofana though - French international.
 
Age (he's 30, not 32 or 34), ethnicity (sorry, I do think this came into play in some fans' mind), team he plays for, disappointment from missing out on Caicedo and Lavia. Pretty unfair imo.

I hope not. I've always advocated trying to get more Asian players. For some reason this country as a whole seems averse to exploring there, or signing players from there.
 
Wataru Endo to Liverpool: Stuttgart’s Japanese midfielder has all-round game and is an example to other players

[article]The circumstances behind a near £16m signing of Wataru Endo might have some Liverpool supporters concerned. The failed pursuits of both Moises Caicedo and Romeo Lavia have left Jurgen Klopp short of options in midfield and turning to the 30-year-old Endo could be seen as a desperation move.

Stuttgart's captain is not a young talent to excite in the mould of those other names. But given the departures of Fabinho, Jordan Henderson and James Milner, this acquisition might be one of the smarter bits of business that Liverpool could have done.

He is a reliable performer, who will be determined to seize this opportunity, an expert in the holding role who can contribute to both the defensive and offensive phase of the game. There are no question marks over his character - just ask those who know him.

'He is a really great player'
It was the final question for Bundesliga legend Mario Gomez as he sat down with a group of international journalists at the Allianz Arena on Saturday evening. Japanese reporter Daisuke Ishii asked about Endo, the former striker's old team-mate at Stuttgart.

Gomez had already discussed everything from Germany's problems to his own Spanish roots, but his eyes lit up at the mention of Endo. "I love Wataru, to be honest." It was he who had pushed for the player's inclusion when both found themselves out of the team.

"Wataru sat next to me in the dressing room and had a really hard time because the coach did not use him at the beginning." In 2020, Gomez was in the final season of his career and had adjusted to his own situation, a mentor to the squad. "I was happy with this role."

Endo, in his prime, was more frustrated. "I was always telling him just to keep calm, keep doing what he was doing because he did amazing in training." So amazing, in fact, that it became a running theme of the sessions than Gomez would pair up with Endo.

"After the game we had the four against four," Gomez explains. "When I came into the dressing room, I was always telling the coach to put me in the same team as Wataru because then we will never lose. This is how it started. I was just pushing him a lot.

"At a certain point, the coach used him. And then it is not me, it is about the player, because he played fantastic. That is why he is playing not because I told the coach that he is great. It is because he is a really great player. Now, he is the captain of his team."

Gomez regards Endo as an "example of how team sport should look" because of his attitude - someone who is "always giving everything for the group". He admires his serenity in coping with his young children. "I have three and I am struggling. He is just never stressed."

But just as his performances in those four-against-four games in training would suggest, this is about more than his good character, more even than the versatility that could see him fill in at the back as well as in midfield for Liverpool. Endo has the quality to succeed too.

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Endo's impressive statistics
Klopp will relish his combative approach. This is a player who ranked sixth last season for duels won in the Bundesliga. In the past three seasons, he is one of only three players to make 200 tackles, one of only two to win the ball back 400 times in the middle of the pitch.

Having deployed Alexis Mac Allister in that deeper role on the opening weekend and missed out on both Caicedo and Lavia to Chelsea, Liverpool's need for a defensive-minded midfielder is obvious. Endo has shown in his long career that he can do that job.

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What makes him a particularly interesting proposition, perhaps what persuaded Klopp to make the move, is that his in-possession game is good enough to thrive in the Premier League too. Like those other targets, Endo can be much more than a mere destroyer.

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His passing statistics are solid and there is creativity there too. Remarkably, there were only four players - Jamal Musiala, Dominik Szoboszlai, Moussa Diaby and Raphael Guerreiro - who created more chances from open play than Endo in the Bundesliga last season.

He can get forward to press and to pass, essential even for the more defensive players in a Klopp team. Endo won the ball back 22 times in the final third last season and scored twice from Stuttgart counter-attacks. He even scored three goals from outside the box.

That he ranks so highly on so many metrics owes much to the fact that he has been a virtual ever-present for his club since Gomez made his case back in 2020. In fact, no player in the Bundesliga has started more games than Endo over the past three seasons.

But then that is the sort of robustness that Klopp will require, particularly after being burned by the Arthur Melo experience - not the name of a jazz band but the injury-prone Brazilian loaned from Juventus last season who did not play a Premier League minute.

Endo is a safer bet. And if he does find himself kicking his heels as a substitute, the message to his new Liverpool team-mates will be clear. Just make sure he is first pick for that small-sided game in training afterwards. He will not stay on the bench for long.[/article]
 
The reason one costs 110+ and the other 20 has nothing to do with our strategic squad planning (ha!) . Caceido and the amount we were willing to pay for him is not relevant to this conversation.

I only said he was a reasonable addition as a stop gap. I don't see why the age and price of a player is not relevant to that.

Like you, I'm also not a fan of the squad planning but the addition of a german retiree who's managed to burn bridges everywhere he goes on a three month contract to woo players and charm sellers already told me all I needed to know.
 
Is the German league just poor or something, cos this guy is gliding past players for fun in those clips, and has quite a shot on him. I've got a feeling he'll be better than we're expecting, definitely an improvement on what Milner was offering.

German league is proper shit these days. Just look at Keita who seemed unplayable from the highlights and then there's Sancho, Werner, Havertz, Haller, Bailey etc.

I have no idea what to expect from Endo but hopefully he's more of a Milner replacement (I'm guessing that was supposed to be Henderson this year) than this season's Arthur. That heat map suggests he could be a back up for Trent as well
 
I've flip-flopped from being totally disconsolate with the idea of signing a 30 year old has been from the German league to LOVING this. Bring on the Endo times! As someone said, this has cult legend signing written all over it.

He wears a mouthguard to play. If he manages to eke a squeal out of Bruno Fernandez once across 180 mins, I'm up for it.
 
For those like me who want to see him break legs of Chelsea and United players, I have just googled his red card history and it's not encouraging
 
Nothing we fans can do, mad to pay what we're paying, however, we have a 6 now, who can cover the right which allow Trent to do what he does.
If we start winning 6 games in arow, and he plays his part, it will be thought as a stroke of genius
 
Maybe Klopp rates Bajcetic really highly, and thinks he's the long term successor to the role, but needs a stop gap in the interim.
Plausible after last season. And against most teams in the league this lad can do a job most likely. Our midfield has always worked with work horses. He fits the mould.
 
If he's cover for DM, CB and RB, in the same mould as Milner, I'm fine with it. Esp if his wage + transfer fee is about the same as Millie (on the accounts; amortized). As long we're still signing another CB and DM.

If he's anything more than just cover across positions. We're fucked.
 
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