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Liverpool vs Tottenham Hotspurs

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Dirty Sanchez

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Besides Manchester United and Everton, I think that I have the greatest hate for Spurs.
It’s almost irrational, pathological hatred - like @Silver Sean hates Arsenal.
Every fiber of my being hopes that we absolutely hump these cunts on Sunday. Just so that I can lurk on their forums and read their pathetic cries for help.

I’m going for a lie down.
 
I hope we thump everyone,

I like Spurs, run well, have some cracking players, great manager, good style of football and the fans I know are sound.

It's a huge game for us.
 
Whoa there @Dirty Sanchez - Me and @Mystic have the monopoly of despising Spurs the most on 6CM's! You can join the club though 😉. I used to work in Seven Sisters and lived in Kentish Town which is just up the road from White Hart Lane. That meant all the boozers were rammed full of massive cunts on match day. That wasn't the worst of it though. My neighbour was a Spurs fan (he lived in the apartment above mine) and I can honestly say I've never met a more cretinous, deluded bellend in all my life - He was (funnily enough) a rather fair representation of the average Spurs fan. Thick, deluded, cretinous and well..... Weird!
 
My god mother's wife (my god mother in law?) is a Spurs fan, so I must own up to having a bit of a soft spot for them. Obviously will still hate them tomorrow
 
They're like the end of the shit third Matrix with the oracle getting turned into Smith and fighting Neo and then everyone turns into Smith, and then everyone... Evaporates? Is that what they do?

Anyway they'll assimilate our style and try to win, but at the end it may just all fall apart and leave everyone wondering who tried to do what.

If I had a point (which I don't - finally got out the Ozzy and now I'm ill from all the dying people I've been next to) it'd be that Spurs, and Liverpool, promise lots, rather like the Matrix trilogy, but will let you down at several points along the way. There's no knowing who's here to fuck up tomorrow cos it could be both, one, or none. All I know is, by the end of the game, Barney Ronay will be chomping at the bit will a bullet-point stained notepad full of whimsy, and it'll be dissected as the future of how football is going, where we're going, lizards and Daniel Levy's annual appeasement to The Lying Rag god.

We might win. Hope we do. Probably won't.
 
This is going to be a tough tough game, we are in so-so form and Spurs seem right on it, they tore United apart and could easily have won by 5 or 6 had Kane / Ali been able to hit the target. Their confidence will be right up there and they have zero injuries worries, even Rose and Alderweireld are back.

That said Pochettino's Spurs have an horrendous away record vs. Top 6 teams.

Pochettino's away record vs the 'Big 6' since he took over.
29/09/14: Arsenal 1:1 Spurs
18/10/14: Man City 4:1 Spurs
03/12/14: Chelsea 3:0 Spurs
10/02/15: Liverpool 3:2 Spurs
15/03/15: Man Utd 3:0 Spurs
08/08/15: Man Utd 1:0 Spurs
08/11/15: Arsenal 1:1 Spurs
14/02/16: Man City 1:2 Spurs
02/04/16: Liverpool 1:1 Spurs
02/05/16: Chelsea 2:2 Spurs
06/11/16: Arsenal 1:1 Spurs
26/11/16: Chelsea 2:1 Spurs
11/12/16: Man Utd 1:0 Spurs
21/01/17: Man City 2:2 Spurs
11/02/17: Liverpool 2:0 Spurs
28/10/17: Man Utd 1:0 Spurs
18/11/17: Arsenal 2:0 Spurs
16/12/17: Man City 4:1 Spurs
Played: 18
Won: 1
Drawn: 6
Lost: 11
Scored: 15
Conceded: 35
Points: 9/54
 
This is going to be a tough tough game, we are in so-so form and Spurs seem right on it, they tore United apart and could easily have won by 5 or 6 had Kane / Ali been able to hit the target. Their confidence will be right up there and they have zero injuries worries, even Rose and Alderweireld are back.

That said Pochettino's Spurs have an horrendous away record vs. Top 6 teams.

Pochettino's away record vs the 'Big 6' since he took over.
29/09/14: Arsenal 1:1 Spurs
18/10/14: Man City 4:1 Spurs
03/12/14: Chelsea 3:0 Spurs
10/02/15: Liverpool 3:2 Spurs
15/03/15: Man Utd 3:0 Spurs
08/08/15: Man Utd 1:0 Spurs
08/11/15: Arsenal 1:1 Spurs
14/02/16: Man City 1:2 Spurs
02/04/16: Liverpool 1:1 Spurs
02/05/16: Chelsea 2:2 Spurs
06/11/16: Arsenal 1:1 Spurs
26/11/16: Chelsea 2:1 Spurs
11/12/16: Man Utd 1:0 Spurs
21/01/17: Man City 2:2 Spurs
11/02/17: Liverpool 2:0 Spurs
28/10/17: Man Utd 1:0 Spurs
18/11/17: Arsenal 2:0 Spurs
16/12/17: Man City 4:1 Spurs
Played: 18
Won: 1
Drawn: 6
Lost: 11
Scored: 15
Conceded: 35
Points: 9/54

I think Spurs and ourselves are top of the form table.
 
Whoa there @Dirty Sanchez - Me and @Mystic have the monopoly of despising Spurs the most on 6CM's! You can join the club though 😉. I used to work in Seven Sisters and lived in Kentish Town which is just up the road from White Hart Lane. That meant all the boozers were rammed full of massive cunts on match day. That wasn't the worst of it though. My neighbour was a Spurs fan (he lived in the apartment above mine) and I can honestly say I've never met a more cretinous, deluded bellend in all my life - He was (funnily enough) a rather fair representation of the average Spurs fan. Thick, deluded, cretinous and well..... Weird!

That sounds like the worst apartment in the world to live in. Kentish Town, fucking weird twat as a neighbour, I almost feel sorry for the bloke. and to make things worse he supports Spurs!
 
I don't mind Spurs.

There are plenty of other more hateable teams in the League.
 
I don't mind Spurs.

There are plenty of other more hateable teams in the League.

Yeah, they never win anything and they don't seem to have as many detestable managers or players.

Of course for Liverpool fans, Everton and United are forever at the top of the Hate Tree. The horrific rise of Chelsea under Abramovich, especially when Mourinho was in charge, puts them just below (EBTJ didn't help much either) and their fans are cunts too.

I despise Abu Dhabi City for similar reasons - and obviously hate Guardiola - but other than United or Everton, the teams I hate below them tend to be the ones that are more successful than us and win more, so can be interchangeable. Although I suspect Chelsea are now there to stay.

As for Spurs....never been that bothered really. I probably dislike Arsenal more, but that could be because they win things now and then. If anything the underdog status Spurs have suffered over the last few decades vs Arsenal has made me not mind them so much. They've always been so unthreatening and 'spursy'

And we've not really been in any competition with them, or even had any momentous CL or cup clashes.

That said, them finishing above us in the last few years has increased my Spurs dislike a bit recently, and I suppose their move to a new stadium may change things if it means they can start operating at a higher financial level

But they're not easy to hate. They dont matter.
 
Hate Tree (good term)

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Everton
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The rest of the Top 6. I don't really give a shit about any of them, especially since Chelsea have lost their dominance.
 
Hate Tree (good term)

United
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Everton
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The rest of the Top 6. I don't really give a shit about any of them, especially since Chelsea have lost their dominance.

Chelsea are the current Premier League Champions.

And their sins can never be washed away, I don't care how their dominance ebbs away (hope it does)
 
Klopp will have to make a few difficult decisions for this game.

First, selecting the CB pair. I think Van Dijk will start, but who will he be partnered with? So far it has always been Matip and I don't think many of us have been overly impressed so far. West Brom was an overall defensive horror show, but even in the quiet game against Huddersfield Matip managed to lose a couple of duels near the end that he had no right to lose. In some way playing with VVD freed Joel up to move up and get involved in building attacking moves more and he's been somewhat better on that front, but defensively there has been no visible improvement. Time to switch horses?

If Klopp decides it's time for the switch, then Lovren of all people is probably the most logical choice right now. After his one-man horror-show away at Spurs, he has been largely good and at times excellent. Besides, there is a chance that playing with Van Dijk might relieve some burden of leadership from him, which is where he usually gets himself into trouble. I always maintained that Lovren can be a good defender if he only has to do his job and nothing more; in theory he can be a good partner for a more talented defender. Personally, I would give Lovren a chance to redeem himself against Spurs. Klavan also deserves a chance to show what he can do alongside Van Dijk, but I'm not sure Spurs in the right game for it, especially as VVD would have to switch over to the right to accommodate him.

Second big decision will be selecting the overall shape of the team, particularly as it relates to midfield. We were severely punished for trying to play our usual attacking 4-3-3 at Spurs last time around; on Wednesday United were similarly punished for starting with only one defensively-minded midfielder in Matic – he was totally overwhelmed in midfield and sometimes just stood there frozen because there were too many players making runs around him to even try to cover everybody. I'm sure Klopp will have learned from these mistakes – the only way to effectively defend against Spurs front 4 is with a solid back 6, which includes 2 disciplined sitting midfielders (this would also free up Robertson to attack more, which could be key for us at the other end of the pitch). I think it will be very small margins that decide which 2 out of the trio of Can, Henderson and Wijnaldum will start; probably Can should be the first pick given his great performances against Man City and Huddersfield (even though he was shit in the 2 games in between), after that it will be about whether Klopp prioritizes ball retention (Wijnaldum) or penetration (Henderson).

Third key to the game will be finding a way to take advantage of any potential small weakness in Spurs' defense. Pochettino is a conservative manager who keeps fine-tuning his chosen system rather than experiment more boldly as Klopp or Guardiola does; as a result of all this fine-tuning his team appears very solidly put together with no glaring weaknesses (in contrast to let's say Arsenal) but the downside is that they are rather predictable. Klopp will need to come up with a very specific plan of attack, for instance looking to exploit a tiny bit of space between fullbacks and CBs or trying to "isolate" a specific attacker against a specific defender basketball-style – let's say Salah on Vertonghen. I'm pretty sure Oxlade-Chamberlain will play in addition to the usual front 3, perhaps reprising his role of what I call "false 10," which he did so well against City. Or even more interesting would be to give Salah a completely free role a la Messi, while fixing the other 3 attacking players to positions: Mane on the right, Ox on the left, Firmino in the middle interchanging with Salah. I'm not sure Pochettino would know what do to with that. Robertson will need to be well protected by Van Dijk and midfielders, because him having the freedom to attack down the left will be key to whether we can press the Spurs shape back and play with a sense of advantage. It will be a close game and these kinds of small details will prove decisive.
 
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I don't mind Spurs.

There are plenty of other more hateable teams in the League.
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We need a strong midfield. Can hendo and gini in midfield. This is a match we don't want to loose.
 
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