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Liverpool v West Bromwich Albion Match Thread - FA Cup

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Imagine fucking Moreno out the side for a whole season for a midfielder who had never played there because he's so shit, then buying a very decent left back, then deciding to put him back in the side, only for him and his dickhead mate Minge to cost us a match yet again.

That's all on Klopp.

Another poor season...... is all on Klopp. Period.
 
Sometimes, the webpage doesn't fit properly on my screen, and when I scroll to the right to read only the posts, I always manage to confuse King Emlyn's posts for Raz's.
 
Vvd has only been here a couple of weeks and we have drained him of his ability already.

Ings looks like he gives a shit, a rare thing in this team.
 
I’ve been waiting 2 months to get a decent internet supply to my house...

It finally arrived yesterday and sure enough with the little internet TV box I got some Canadian tv channels on which all the FA cup games were being shown in HD no worries .... niiice.... a bonus I wasn’t expecting although a little bit odd....

Thankfully for some utterly unknown reason the shit internet cable thing died on me at about 1:30 am, I had a fridge full of beer waiting to be drunk...

On the bright side it meant that a never saw that disaster.

My internet saved me.
 
I've just watched the highlights on match of the day and I was expecting to see some serious howlers from Ming and Moreno given the flack they received on here, but didn't really see that much wrong in the limited clips. Moreno was a little bit out of position for the goals, but was expecting to see some classic Moreno fuck ups. Disappointing.
 
I've just watched the highlights on match of the day and I was expecting to see some serious howlers from Ming and Moreno given the flack they received on here, but didn't really see that much wrong in the limited clips. Moreno was a little bit out of position for the goals, but was expecting to see some classic Moreno fuck ups. Disappointing.
Yeah it was just poor defending from Moreno, rather than a masterclass.

Couldn't even enjoy his mistakes they were that mundane

Give me a traore own goal any day
 
I'm not sure if my RAAAAAATINGS! belong in here, or the thread where we moan about everything and a few people seem to be slightly deranged.

That mental state has been reflected by Liverpool FC in the last two games, in which we have lost, quite comfortably, to the worst two sides in the league. But West Brom was worse. Partly because of who their manager is, the sly, chiselling cunt Pardew, but mostly because the game was a dreadful, brutal microcosm of all our shortcomings.

After selling one of our best players mid-season, with a typically incoherent absence of plan in place, we witnessed the ongoing rotation of two fucking shit goalkeepers, a comically bad defence, a pedestrian, mediocre midfield and a lack of leadership, consistency and ability to control games. And a manager who looks incapable of identifying and fixing any of it.

The usual shit. But still we have clapping spastics trying to tell us that everything is under control, Klopp is a genius, we don't need new players and blah blah blah.

Mignolet (3) Letting him know that the German Clown is number one clown in Klopp's Defensive Big Top Circus has not done much for his game. What a surprise. A dismal, jittery, flapping disaster who was lucky not to concede more

Matip (3) Hahaha. Remember when everyone was quacking on about how boss he was? I say 'everyone'. I mean the usual divvies who are wrong about everything. One of the most dismal defensive displays Anfield has seen for a while. Played like he was wearing slippers made of ice, in a very convincing Djmi Traore impression.

VVD (4) Better than Djimi Matip, but still quite a way from what the most expensive defender in the world should look like. I'll say that again: 'the most expensive defender in the world'

Moreno (4) Came back into the side after injury and everyone wished he hadn't. All over the place in defence and while he did produce some decent play in attack, his first job is not to be a cunt in defence

TAA (4) Struggled to keep Rodriguez in check, and was a total fucking shambles in the first half. Improved after the break, but still rubbish

Wijnaldum (3) The Shithouse Ghost followed up his execrable, gutless display against Swansea with another stinking, aimless, weak, shithouse display. This cunt should not be in Liverpool's first team. He has one good game in every three or four. At best. Fuck off

Can (3) Klopp's retarded decision to give this knobhead the captain's armband has really paid off. He made Gareth Barry (106 years old) look like fucking Steven Gerrard in his prime. Utter shite.

Chamberlain (4) OXTHLADE-CHAMBERLLLLLAAAAIN! The dopey twat ran about a bit, and then did almost everything wrong. Another of our fantastic midfielders who can play a good game at least once per month. A cabbage with legs.

Mane (4) This is a slump. Don't know what's happened to the unstoppable force of last season, but this one is broken

Firmino (6) Extra point for the lovely goal, but another poor penalty and some wasteful play when he drifted in and out of the game. But worked hard all night.

Salah (6) Yet another goal. Hopefully we will get another season out of him before a better team buys him.
 
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I'm not sure if my RAAAAAATINGS! belong in here, or the thread where we moan about everything and a few people seem to be slightly deranged.

That mental state has been reflected by Liverpool FC in the last two games, in which we have lost, quite comfortably, to the worst two sides in the league. But West Brom was worse. Partly because of who their manager is, the sly, chiselling cunt Pardew, but mostly because the game was a dreadful, brutal microcosm of all our shortcomings.

After selling one of our best players mid-season, with a typically incoherent absence of plan in place, we witnessed the ongoing rotation of two fucking shit goalkeepers, a comically bad defence, a pedestrian, mediocre midfield and a lack of leadership, consistency and ability to control games. And a manager who looks incapable of identifying and fixing any of it.

The usual shit. But still we have clapping spastics trying to tell us that everything is under control, Klopp is a genius, we don't need new players and blah blah blah.

Mignolet (3) Letting him know that the German Clown is number one clown in Klopp's Defensive Big Top Circus has not done much for his game. What a surprise. A dismal, jittery, flapping disaster who was lucky not to concede more

Matip (3) Hahaha. Remember when everyone was quacking on about how boss he was? I say 'everyone'. I mean the usual divvies who are wring about everything. One of the most dismal defensive displays Anfield has seen for a while. Played like he was wearing slippers made of ice, in a very convincing Djmi Traore impression.

VVD (4) Better than Djimi Matip, but still quite a way from what the most expensive defender in the world should look like. I'll say that again: 'the most expensive defender in the world'

Moreno (4) Came back into the side after injury and everyone wished he hadn't. All over the place in defence and while he did produce some decent play in attack, his first job is not to be a cunt in defence

TAA (4) Struggled to keep Rodriguez in check, and was a total fucking shambles in the first half. Improved after the break, but still rubbish

Wijnaldum (3) The Shithouse Ghost followed up his execrable, gutless display against Swansea with another stinking, aimless, weak, shithouse display. This cunt should not be in Liverpool's first team. He has one good game in every three or four. At best. Fuck off

Can (3) Klopp's retarded decision to give this knobhead the captain's armband has really paid off. He made Gareth Barry (106 years old) look like fucking Steven Gerrard in his prime. Utter shite.

Chamberlain (4) OXTHLADE-CHAMBERLLLLLAAAAIN! The dopey twat ran about a bit, and then did almost everything wrong. Another of our fantastic midfielders who can play a good game at leather once per month. A cabbage with legs.

Mane (4) This is a slump. Don't know what's happened to the unstoppable force of last season, but this one is broken

Firmino (6) Extra point for the lovely goal, but another poor penalty and some wasteful play when he drifted in and out of the game. But worked hard all night.

Salah (6) Yet another goal. Hopefully we will get another season out of him before a better team buys him.

I like the way you spelled wrong wrong.
 
They get one point for showing up, one for completing the match, and one for standing upright as an obstacle on the pitch which created a bit of turbulence in the air flow thereby increasing the drag force on the ball as it headed to goal. So (3) seems fair enough to me.
 
I had a feeling you might think I was being soft

It wasn't that Ming didn't make a single save, it was that he wouldn't have if we were still playing. He looks scared of the ball. Just fuck him off now. Moreno needs no comment. But Matip did look composed when he arrived. What's happened? The defensive coaching is shit. VVD will be just as bad in a few months. And Gini, what the fuck is he meant to be?
 
Being harsh on VVD imo. You can't look at his performance without taking into account every other defender was fucking awful & the keeper behind him seemed to want to lose the game.

He won a few headers, & if you watch the goals over isn't at fault for any of them.

He made one slight fuck up when he allowed his man to turn him which led to them missing a chance, I don't remember any other fuck ups at all from him, just that I wondered why klopp wasn't having them switch which men they were marking cos they were playing to anyone but who he was on.
 
Being harsh on VVD imo. You can't look at his performance without taking into account every other defender was fucking awful & the keeper behind him seemed to want to lose the game.

He won a few headers, & if you watch the goals over isn't at fault for any of them.

He made one slight fuck up when he allowed his man to turn him which led to them missing a chance, I don't remember any other fuck ups at all from him, just that I wondered why klopp wasn't having them switch which men they were marking cos they were playing to anyone but who he was on.

Maybe. And maybe I'm being overly harsh on Matip, who is clearly shitting himself because of the bag of shite behind him. Either way, it's an awful defence.
 
It wasn't that Ming didn't make a single save, it was that he wouldn't have if we were still playing. He looks scared of the ball. Just fuck him off now. Moreno needs no comment. But Matip did look composed when he arrived. What's happened? The defensive coaching is shit. VVD will be just as bad in a few months. And Gini, what the fuck is he meant to be?

I don't need to add my comments or opinions about Mongolet, they have been well know for about 4 years.

Matip is a player I've never rated as highly as some. His languid style and ability to pass obviously made him a favourite with the type of fan who didn't rate Jamie Carragher (thus rendering their opinion irrelevant) but he always seemed a bit insipid and weak to me, and he can't head a ball. I dunno.

Wijnaldum is a classic: 'if it don't rate Wijnaldum, you don't understand football' . We've seen so many of that type,of player, you know, the fucking 'glue'/ unseen work/ tactically sound/ blah blah. He has had some impressive games. But not often enough. But his biggest problem is that he's a massively inconsistent spineless shithouse ghost
 
I don't need to add my comments or opinions about Mongolet, they have been well know for about 4 years.

Matip is a player I've never rated as highly as some. His languid style and ability to pass obviously made him a favourite with the type of fan who didn't rate Jamie Carragher (thus rendering their opinion irrelevant) but he always seemed a bit insipid and weak to me, and he can't head a ball. I dunno.

Wijnaldum is a classic: 'if it don't rate Wijnaldum, you don't understand football' . We've seen so many of that type,of player, you know, the fucking 'glue'/ unseen work/ tactically sound/ blah blah. He has had some impressive games. But not often enough. But his biggest problem is that he's a massively inconsistent spineless shithouse ghost

That stuff about Matip and Gini would make sense if you could actually identify the players you would have in their place but the truth is - in world football - they are as good as any of the shit I have seen in the other top teams. All of these theories about how bad our players are go out of the window when we put 4 past Man City - seriously - all of that shit goes out. I think that no matter who we sign for midfield or defense the issues we have now will still remain given our style of play, and the mentality of some of our players.

I actually think if we faced Barca - we would put 4 past them and they may score against us I don't now - but we could seriously fuck all of the top teams up if we turn up. What has happened in the last two games can only be put down to exhaustion and stupidity by our players not a lack of talent/skill either in defense or midfield.
 
That stuff about Matip and Gini would make sense if you could actually identify the players you would have in their place but the truth is - in world football - they are as good as any of the shit I have seen in the other top teams. All of these theories about how bad our players are go out of the window when we put 4 past Man City - seriously - all of that shit goes out. I think that no matter who we sign for midfield or defense the issues we have now will still remain given our style of play, and the mentality of some of our players.

I actually think if we faced Barca - we would put 4 past them and they may score against us I don't now - but we could seriously fuck all of the top teams up if we turn up. What has happened in the last two games can only be put down to exhaustion and stupidity by our players not a lack of talent/skill either in defense or midfield.

Bollocks
 
Yep. 7 goals conceded in 3 games. Someone said that the problem at the back is beyond coaching, we just need better players. VVD's performance probably went someway to explaining the whole shambles.
 
One final observation from me on the performance of Van Dijk.

I had assumed that he was coming as a billy big bollix who would take free kicks, launch daring raids through the midfield and ping long through balls and amazing cross field passes all over the shop, drawing gasps of admiration from us all.

I don't think he even tried any of those things. Instead we had poor set pieces by Oxlade-Chamberlain and others, no interesting passes from the defense at at any point, and most weird of all, his defensive partner Matip lurching and gamboling his way through the midfield lines and cutting into their defense like hot butter through a knife.

Where was billy big bollix?
 
I said from the off that it's not an ideal partnership, Matip is a big stopper type like VVD, although obviously quite shit. I think VVD would be better with a Carragher type of defender alongside him, which we obviously don't have.
 
Jurgen Klopp has claimed television network BT Sport decided on the length of stoppage time in the first half of Liverpool's defeat to West Brom, claiming it should have been 10 minutes long and not 4 minutes. [@MirrorFootball] #LF

David Maddock writes how Jürgen Klopp claimed it was fourth official, Jon Moss, who claimed it was BT Sport who dictated the length of stoppage time which they have denied.
 

Like I said - you cannot even name a player that you would have to replace our midfield with. Bollocks for Bollocks sake when it comes to you.

As frustrated and in despair as I am about Klopp not signing anyone - I can see exactly where he is coming from - there is fuck all out there that would guarantee you the success. The Lemar's and Fekir's of this world are playing in a sub-standard shit of shittiness league - and when you see figures of 90M quoted you have to laugh.

He wants players that can cope with his style of play which is a 100mph running around with excess stamina and speed. This is his problem - he hasn't really programmed that team of ours to do anything with the cleverness that you associate with Pep's team - which leads to breaking down parked busses systematically - ours is a game which lacks any patience - its purely brute force. We play on the edge where we could either completely destroy teams or lose ourselves. Think about it everyone - out of all the names you see linked with us - how often do you ever see a player that is the defensive type linked with us ? - I get the feeling he wants attackers for the most part so he can shoot his way to winning games - screw Rafa type tactical draws - for him its all about players that go for throat of the opponent. Love Klopp but he is a bit of a weirdo.
 
I said from the off that it's not an ideal partnership, Matip is a big stopper type like VVD, although obviously quite shit. I think VVD would be better with a Carragher type of defender alongside him, which we obviously don't have.

The best defender for us before we started leaking and shitting our pants again was actually Klavan - yes he who has been sick of late. He was doing well for us and eliminating threats before they came near us in the long run of being undefeated. Anyway no one dares mentions him - except me Moron.
 
The best defender for us before we started leaking and shitting our pants again was actually Klavan - yes he who has been sick of late. He was doing well for us and eliminating threats before they came near us in the long run of being undefeated. Anyway no one dares mentions him - except me Moron.

He was, but unfortunately he was also really poor before that and he plays in the same position as our £75m defender, so it's a no go.
 
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