Liverpool are planning an audacious move for Real Madrid striker Raul
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Dont want him.
Wages demands too high for a slow ageing Spanish player. The parallels with Morientes are not unfounded. He may be able to score in Spain but I doubt he'll be able to reproduce any of that form here.
Wages demands too high for a slow ageing Spanish player. The parallels with Morientes are not unfounded. He may be able to score in Spain but I doubt he'll be able to reproduce any of that form here.
He's always been overrated and as soon as he got jibbed by Spain they started looking like the force they always should have been.
No thanks
No. Nor is "sensational".
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39578.msg1079057#msg1079057 date=1270019510]
He's always been overrated and as soon as he got jibbed by Spain they started looking like the force they always should have been.
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overrated?
[size=14pt]overrated?[/size]
He's one of, if not the best striker(s) in the World in the last 20 years.
His goals record in any competition, his workrate, his attitude, his ability, technique, how he's respected by his peers, etc etc.
I'd listen to arguments about his age being a determining factor on us being interested or not, but not in any way on Earth is Raul overrated. If anything, it's the exact opposite.
He's always been overrated and as soon as he got jibbed by Spain they started looking like the force they always should have been.
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overrated?
[size=14pt]overrated?[/size]
He's one of, if not the best striker(s) in the World in the last 20 years.
His goals record in any competition, his workrate, his attitude, his ability, technique, how he's respected by his peers, etc etc.
I'd listen to arguments about his age being a determining factor on us being interested or not, but not in any way on Earth is Raul overrated. If anything, it's the exact opposite.
[quote author=Sheik Yerbouti link=topic=39578.msg1079058#msg1079058 date=1270019857]
No thanks
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No thanks
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^^
What is so darned audacious about signing a 'has-been'?
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39578.msg1079072#msg1079072 date=1270020966]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39578.msg1079057#msg1079057 date=1270019510]
He's always been overrated and as soon as he got jibbed by Spain they started looking like the force they always should have been.
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overrated?
[size=14pt]overrated?[/size]
He's one of, if not the best striker(s) in the World in the last 20 years.
His goals record in any competition, his workrate, his attitude, his ability, technique, how he's respected by his peers, etc etc.
I'd listen to arguments about his age being a determining factor on us being interested or not, but not in any way on Earth is Raul overrated. If anything, it's the exact opposite.
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Is correct. However, this has Morientes 2 written all over it so no thanks.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39578.msg1079057#msg1079057 date=1270019510]
He's always been overrated and as soon as he got jibbed by Spain they started looking like the force they always should have been.
[/quote]
overrated?
[size=14pt]overrated?[/size]
He's one of, if not the best striker(s) in the World in the last 20 years.
His goals record in any competition, his workrate, his attitude, his ability, technique, how he's respected by his peers, etc etc.
I'd listen to arguments about his age being a determining factor on us being interested or not, but not in any way on Earth is Raul overrated. If anything, it's the exact opposite.
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Is correct. However, this has Morientes 2 written all over it so no thanks.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=39578.msg1079072#msg1079072 date=1270020966]
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39578.msg1079057#msg1079057 date=1270019510]
He's always been overrated and as soon as he got jibbed by Spain they started looking like the force they always should have been.
[/quote]
overrated?
[size=14pt]overrated?[/size]
He's one of, if not the best striker(s) in the World in the last 20 years.
His goals record in any competition, his workrate, his attitude, his ability, technique, how he's respected by his peers, etc etc.
I'd listen to arguments about his age being a determining factor on us being interested or not, but not in any way on Earth is Raul overrated. If anything, it's the exact opposite.
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Overrated I say- and by this I mean, he's been living on reputation for years.
Respected by his peers? He gets respect partly because he is a Madrid institution, and the epitome of everything wrong with 'player power'. So 'respected' that it took a Spanish coach with cojones to decide to leave him out, such was his malignant and divisive influence in a perennially losing international team. Yes, he has been a great player in the past, but he has been nothing like the Raul of late teens and early to mid-20s for many many moons.
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=39578.msg1079057#msg1079057 date=1270019510]
He's always been overrated and as soon as he got jibbed by Spain they started looking like the force they always should have been.
[/quote]
overrated?
[size=14pt]overrated?[/size]
He's one of, if not the best striker(s) in the World in the last 20 years.
His goals record in any competition, his workrate, his attitude, his ability, technique, how he's respected by his peers, etc etc.
I'd listen to arguments about his age being a determining factor on us being interested or not, but not in any way on Earth is Raul overrated. If anything, it's the exact opposite.
[/quote]
Overrated I say- and by this I mean, he's been living on reputation for years.
Respected by his peers? He gets respect partly because he is a Madrid institution, and the epitome of everything wrong with 'player power'. So 'respected' that it took a Spanish coach with cojones to decide to leave him out, such was his malignant and divisive influence in a perennially losing international team. Yes, he has been a great player in the past, but he has been nothing like the Raul of late teens and early to mid-20s for many many moons.
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2007-08 37 18 46 23
2008-09 37 18 45 24
I think some of you are underestimating what he's done recently. This seasons stats dont read so nicely, but I'd put that down to lack of games, his goals per minute still equates to about 1 in 3.
He is past his best, but he could still do a job for us. He's certainly a better option than some players we have. Whether we could afford his wages is another matter.
2007-08 37 18 46 23
2008-09 37 18 45 24
I think some of you are underestimating what he's done recently. This seasons stats dont read so nicely, but I'd put that down to lack of games, his goals per minute still equates to about 1 in 3.
He is past his best, but he could still do a job for us. He's certainly a better option than some players we have. Whether we could afford his wages is another matter.
[quote author=keniget link=topic=39578.msg1079056#msg1079056 date=1270018757]
For some reason, I thought he was 35. He's still a good player, but I just don't see the point of this signing.
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Well he's more likely to take his chances than Wash, I suppose. I wouldn't necessarily be against this, as long as he doesn't expect to start every week and as long as we don't give him a silly contract.
For some reason, I thought he was 35. He's still a good player, but I just don't see the point of this signing.
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Well he's more likely to take his chances than Wash, I suppose. I wouldn't necessarily be against this, as long as he doesn't expect to start every week and as long as we don't give him a silly contract.
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=39578.msg1079161#msg1079161 date=1270030551]
I'd rather we signed Robbie again.
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Exactly.
Raul is a kind of Spanish Robbie Fowler and he is now just like Fowler was in his declining days.
I would rather see Rafa give Pacheco a chance than mess around like that.
I'd rather we signed Robbie again.
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Exactly.
Raul is a kind of Spanish Robbie Fowler and he is now just like Fowler was in his declining days.
I would rather see Rafa give Pacheco a chance than mess around like that.
i saw this coming.
Its not going to happen, relax.
[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=39578.msg1079165#msg1079165 date=1270032265]
NO desire for him at all. 5 years past his best. I'd rather have any of his other strike partners from Madrid.
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10 years past his best.
A fantastic striker who in his prime was up there with the best in the world but he's a nothing player now.
NO desire for him at all. 5 years past his best. I'd rather have any of his other strike partners from Madrid.
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10 years past his best.
A fantastic striker who in his prime was up there with the best in the world but he's a nothing player now.
I'm not sure we should go for this but I'm really surprised at the lack of respect for, clearly, one of the best strikers of the modern age. He had a dip, for one season, about 7 years ago and people seem to think he's been shit since. If you'd been watching, not reading the papers or the internet, you'd think otherwise.
Bizarre.
Bizarre.
[quote author=LarryHagman link=topic=39578.msg1079714#msg1079714 date=1270082548]
I'm not sure we should go for this but I'm really surprised at the lack of respect for, clearly, one of the best strikers of the modern age. He had a dip, for one season, about 7 years ago and people seem to think he's been shit since. If you'd been watching, not reading the papers or the internet, you'd think otherwise.
Bizarre.
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Exactly.
Some of the comments here are fucking mental.
"A Spanish Robbie Fowler" - He's a better player and goalscorer than Fowler ever was.
"Finished 10 years ago" - He's averaged over 20 goals a season every season in the last 10 years.
I'm not sure we should go for this but I'm really surprised at the lack of respect for, clearly, one of the best strikers of the modern age. He had a dip, for one season, about 7 years ago and people seem to think he's been shit since. If you'd been watching, not reading the papers or the internet, you'd think otherwise.
Bizarre.
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Exactly.
Some of the comments here are fucking mental.
"A Spanish Robbie Fowler" - He's a better player and goalscorer than Fowler ever was.
"Finished 10 years ago" - He's averaged over 20 goals a season every season in the last 10 years.
He was a fantastic player. He's still quite a good one. Is he one we should be looking seriously at? Had this been last summer, maybe one or two pieces of the puzzle away... yeah, I could go for that. Now that we look a little further away I'd rather see that wage packet go towards a younger talent.
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