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LFC SOLD to NESV.

Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

[quote author=DHSC link=topic=41783.msg1192741#msg1192741 date=1286815002]
Disclaimer:

I would like to say that despite this exciting news that a Singaporean might own Liverpool, I would rather NESV bought us purely for their track record in running a sports team. Peter Lim does not have any experience in running a football club, all his investments are just that, investments. He makes his money from buying and selling stock. I for one, wouldn't want him to buy us and then sell us a few years later just to make a profit.
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Ditto.

Hopefully the court hearing will bring abt good news.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

Not sure if this has been posted but:

Royal Bank of Scotland says it has obtained an interim injunction preventing Liverpool co-owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett from sacking chairman Martin Broughton and two other board members.

Broughton is trying to push through a sale of the club before Friday's deadline for a loan to RBS, the club's main creditor having lent Hicks and Gillett the money to buy the club in March 2007, needs to be repaid. The chairman has a deal in place with New England Sports Ventures - the owners of Boston Red Sox - but Hicks and Gillett attempted to oust Broughton, managing director Christian Purslow and commercial director Ian Ayre as they felt the £300m deal does not meet their valuation of the club.

A hearing is due to take place at the High Court in London on Tuesday, but RBS said on Monday it had secured an interim injunction for breach of contract.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

So err to be clear, whose taking who to court tomorrow then?
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

An example of Broughton accepting a bid that was best for the club over another that might have offered more money, like he said, and now we know why Hicks is getting all excited he must smell more money from Lim

regards
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

[quote author=crump link=topic=41783.msg1192782#msg1192782 date=1286820992]
That RBS injunction has an air of finality.
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It's definitely a positive sign I think......
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=41783.msg1192729#msg1192729 date=1286814160]
Late substitution for Liverpool
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All Roy's subs are late.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

That Lim bid sounds a lot like Hicks PR machine
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41783.msg1192798#msg1192798 date=1286822774]
That Lim bid sounds a lot like Hicks PR machine
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So it sounds like a camel choking on a harminonica while falling down the stairs.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

Hahaha, indeed.

So excuse my ignorance, but British law isn't my strongest area. If RBS wins their case tomorrow, ours later in the week should be a formality no? But if H&G win tomorrow, administration here we come?
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

By the way the Harminonica is a harmonica with the capacity to cause you harm in the short term, as opposed to the long term.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

NESV has no intention of losing Liverpool to Lim

By Harry Harris, Football Correspondent

ESPNsoccernet can disclose New England Sports Ventures (NESV) has a watertight contract to purchase Liverpool and has no intention of relinquishing that right despite a late attempt from Singapore businessman Peter Lim to launch a rival takeover bid.

The Liverpool board has agreed to sell the club to NESV for £300 million but their ability to do so has been challenged by co-owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett. Tuesday's High Court hearing will help to determine whether the takeover has the legal basis to reach completion.

But Lim, who is being advised by the British firm of lawyers Macfarlanes and by the Wong Partnership of Singapore, is preparing a rival offer and hopes to outbid NESV to take control of Liverpool.

It is understood that Lim's interest forced NESV to increase its original offer last week, leading the group, fronted by John W Henry, to emerge as the favoured party. Lim believes his offer was at least as attractive as that on the table from the owners of the Boston Red Sox.

It is being reported by the BBC that Lim was told Liverpool's board was concerned that NESV would have to borrow to finance the takeover. But Henry's group has insisted it will not load up the Premier League side with debt.

The American group's £300 million agreement is signed and sealed, pending High Court hearings this week which will address the issue of whether chairman Martin Broughton and the board had the authority to sell the club against the wishes of the co-owners, who stand to lose £144 million if the NESV deal goes through.

Clearly Lim is looking closely at the opportunity that might arise if Hicks should win his court case, nullifying the NESV deal, and the club ends up in administration on Friday, when the deadline expires for the Americans to repay Royal Bank of Scotland £237 million.

Lim owns several Manchester United-themed bars in Asia and according to Forbes magazine is said to have a £1 billion fortune.

http://soccernet.espn.go.com/news/story?id=831450&sec=england&cc=5739
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

Broughton did previously state that the club might not necessarily be sold to the highest bidder but to the bidder who has the best interest of the club at heart.

If that's anything to go by, NESV may not be as cash rich as Lim but their sporting experience may just have clinched it.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

The idea of our supposed rescuer being gazzumped fills me with concern, someone needs to explain to Mr. Lim and his backers that two wongs might make a partnership but they don't make a right.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

[quote author=gene hughes link=topic=41783.msg1192814#msg1192814 date=1286824199]
The idea of our supposed rescuer being gazzumped fills me with concern, someone needs to explain to Mr. Lim and his backers that two wongs might make a partnership but they don't make a right.
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Well, look at the last time that happened.....
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

[quote author=Hansern link=topic=41783.msg1192803#msg1192803 date=1286823579]
Hahaha, indeed.

So excuse my ignorance, but British law isn't my strongest area. If RBS wins their case tomorrow, ours later in the week should be a formality no? But if H&G win tomorrow, administration here we come?
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I doubt the outcome would be that final if H and G did win tomorrow (my guess is RBS would want to leave final decisions until the court has heard the action brought by Broughton later in the week), but it's very hard to tell without having sight of the papers and knowing what RBS wants from this separate court action of theirs.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

I'd rather we sold to some corrupt eastern person than some man in a silly hat from the states.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

[quote author=crump link=topic=41783.msg1192833#msg1192833 date=1286825051]
I'd rather we sold to some corrupt eastern person than some man in a silly hat from the states.
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Depends on the man. Ruling a bidder out because he's American is a bit like saying "all Brazilian footballers are sh!t" because of Lucas.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

[quote author=crump link=topic=41783.msg1192833#msg1192833 date=1286825051]
I'd rather we sold to some corrupt eastern person than some man in a silly hat from the states.
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Why's that mate ? This guy smells fishy to me and the Manc bars thing stinks even more.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

[quote author=dmishra link=topic=41783.msg1192760#msg1192760 date=1286816638]
[quote author=Avmenon link=topic=41783.msg1192747#msg1192747 date=1286815287]
[quote author=dmishra link=topic=41783.msg1192742#msg1192742 date=1286815016]
Has there been any clarity on the issue of whether the undertakings were written into the articles of association? If there hasn't, I don't understand how we have a watertight case at all.
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It was mentioned about 15 pages ago, BUT WE CANNAE GO BACK NOOOWWWW!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

;D
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Yeah, I did try to read through. But there's been way too many pages and shit to sift through. From what I understand, this is still not clear and is something that would be a problem in an action by the company against the shareholders. RBS' contractual right against the shareholders would have little relevance to the validity of the shareholders actions vis-a-vis the company.
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It might be, depending on whether or not Hick's actions breached the undertakings given to RBS.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

Well, thing is, we've had yanks with decent CVs already. I mean even if we'd have had Shinawatra... look what happened to City. We seem to have swerved all the good deals because they look bad in favour of shit ones that sounded promising.

I can't see this yank deal going well tbh. I can see us getting out of the immediate shit... but not for a great deal of time.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

Shinawatra wasn't a good deal - he was well dodgy, City got lucky with the Sheik. As for decent CVs, well they never really had one. We just didn't do the correct diligence on the corrupt fuckers.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

I'm not actually arsed either way, just rambling. The fact that either option is someone who lives a long haul flight away and is just having a bit of a punt on a marked down asset makes me want to smoke crack.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

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I'm not actually arsed either way, just rambling. The fact that either option is someone who lives a long haul flight away and is just having a bit of a punt on a marked down asset makes me want to smoke crack.
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Fair does, but it's all we're going to get..
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

[quote author=crump link=topic=41783.msg1192852#msg1192852 date=1286826021]
Well, thing is, we've had yanks with decent CVs already. I mean even if we'd have had Shinawatra... look what happened to City. We seem to have swerved all the good deals because they look bad in favour of shit ones that sounded promising.

I can't see this yank deal going well tbh. I can see us getting out of the immediate shit... but not for a great deal of time.

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the yanks absolutely didn't have good CV's. what hicks did to corinthians makes for shocking reading.
NESV is very good both with regards to building/expanding stadiums, star player spending and high wages. apart from the fact they are both yanks (NESV/hicks) they are almost nothing alike.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=41783.msg1192859#msg1192859 date=1286826698]
[the yanks absolutely didn't have good CV's. what hicks did to corinthians makes for shocking reading.
NESV is very good both with regards to building/expanding stadiums, star player spending and high wages. apart from the fact they are both yanks (NESV/hicks) they are almost nothing alike.
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Indeed Hicks is nothing more than a destroyer of sports teams...

It seems Tom Hicks leaves a trail of devastation wherever he goes. His disastrous foray into the Brazilian football market as chairman of Hicks, Muse, Tate & Furst left Corinthians, second most popular club in Brazil, in a state of turmoil.

The parallels between what happened to Corinthians and what is currently happening at Liverpool are unsettling to say the least:

* There was the initial blaze of publicity and fanfare when the company bought the club in 1999, with promises of big spending on the best players and the construction of a brand new 45,000 seater stadium in the suburbs of Sao Paulo.

* There was an initial capital investment to tie down existing players and to finance the purchase one or two other additional players.

* The economics behind the Corinthians deal appeared to be based on ridiculously rudimentary logic: "If you add up all the fans of professional baseball, basketball, football and hockey in the United States, that number is lower than the number of Brazilians who are soccer fans." Clearly, no proper risk analysis had been undertaken - a situation which resonates with the due diligence period of 3 days prior to the purchase of Liverpool.

* This flimsy approach was reinforced by the apparently rash and impulsive purchase of Cruzeiro six months later - traits which Liverpool fans are rapidly coming to associate with Hicks.

* There was also the emphasis on the cheaper "young players", with the following quote from the (unfortunately named) Richard Law, president of Hicks' subsidiary group: "Our job is not to turn back the inevitable, but to build Corinthians and Cruzeiro up from the junior ranks." Hicks followed a similar tack following the takeover of Liverpool: "You need to keep your star players but also develop your young players. Young players are the lifeblood of your team, so we talked about how we can improve that side of the team."

Corinthians had already won the Brazilian championship in 1998 so Hicks inherited a winning team. The initial expenditure assisted in retaining the league title in Dec 1999 and the club also won the inaugural FIFA Club World Championship the following month.

This is where things started to go wrong.

Unable to resist the temptation to make a quick buck, HICKS BEGAN SELLING TRANSFER RIGHTS TO THE CLUB'S STAR PLAYERS. On top of that, he decided on the bizarre idea of changing the traditional colour of the club's shirt. He also introduced sponsorship (something which Corinthians fans felt defiled their heritage).

All of these things led to a furious reaction from supporters and widespread protest against Hicks and his partners. The company bailed out three years later, ironically having accused its local partner in Brazil of "misappropriating funds" (read the UTIMCO post and you'll understand).

Corinthians began to spiral downwards. MSI took over the club's management but, despite a league title in 2005, the financial problems initiated by Hicks proved too much of a burden. The club was relegated to the second tier of Brazilian football for the first time in its history in December 2007.

THERE WAS NO NEW STADIUM. Hicks invested about five hundred million dollars and within two years filed for bankruptcy.

In a recent prospectus issued to financial companies in London, Hicks claims in to be "a master of purchasing and growing professional sports teams".

Liverpool fans, Texas Rangers fans and Corinthians fans might disagree.
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

Just because they are americans doesn't mean they'll be anything like the 2 cunts we've currently got.

"It is not for nothing that Henry was recently reckoned by Sports Illustrated to be the second best owner in the major leagues, with Hicks voted the second worst".
 
Re: LFC Sold to NESV (New England Sports Ventures)

Henry and Hicks are worlds apart in their management strategy. They have the track records to prove it.
 
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