To be fair, even City struggle with Spurs' counter attack.
Spurs are one of the best in Europe at sitting deep and breaking the lines via Kane to counter attack.
Let’s give them a Kaning!!!
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Spurs are one of the best in Europe at sitting deep and breaking the lines via Kane to counter attack.
Isn't it just? Pity the media haven't mentioned it in connection with Jota's foot-up on him later. Skipp shouldn't even have been on the pitch by then.
ah, i missed that.
I am wondering if there is a possibility that Nunez can be shipped out. I read this in an article about Ciro Immobile.
"Immobile seemed too rushed to make an impression with Borussia Dortmund and probably strayed from what made him successful in an attempt to win the starting striker spot. He was constantly wasting opportunities with rushed shots from distance and in the end lost the trust of Jurgen Klopp and the club."
Dortmund spent quite a bit of money on him before he was relegated to the bench in the second half of the season and then shipped out on loan at the end of the season. From my memory, Klopp replaced him with Auba and that initiated the comeback from Dortmund that season. Some parallels to Gakpo and Nunez or maybe I am reading too much as I am ignorant of everything that went on.
Four four two seem to suggest that Nunez experiment is over. They might also be reading too much into Klopp's quote but unless Nunez improves in certain aspects, not sure I see how he fits into the role.
https://www.fourfourtwo.com/features/has-jurgen-klopp-shelved-liverpools-darwin-nunez-experiment
I’d be inclined to sell if we could recoup most of our outlay.
Fair point.
I like Darwin and hope for the best, but I'd be inclined to consider this, too.
We just have such fine margins when it comes to transfers that we can't afford to mess up big ones.
Nunez has scored 15 goals and has 4 assists in his first season , and you want to sell him for who exactly?
I'll remind you, Jota is always a game away from being out for 3 months. Salah goes on 3 month baron runs, and he isn't going anywhere. Bobby is leaving and there is no one else coming in. Any young replacement half as good as Nunez will cost £100m.
Nunez will hit 30+ goals in all comps next season. The attack isn't the issue, it's Fab, Hendo and VVD
I'll remind you, Jota is always a game away from being out for 3 months. Salah goes on 3 month baron runs, and he isn't going anywhere. Bobby is leaving and there is no one else coming in. Any young replacement half as good as Nunez will cost £100m.
Nunez will hit 30+ goals in all comps next season. The attack isn't the issue, it's Fab, Hendo and VVD
Sorry but anyone suggesting we even consider selling Darwin is out their god damn minds.
The guy is going to be world class, he's had a brilliant season in his first season trying to adapt.....he still needs to adapt to a few things here and there but nothing that can't be done sooner than later. He's 23 ffs.
The guy is going to be world class, he's had a brilliant season in his first season trying to adapt.....he still needs to adapt to a few things here and there but nothing that can't be done sooner than later. He's 23 ffs.
I'm hoping a second season turnaround like grealish had happens.
He's still a viable option, and still could be good for us if the midfield fixes it's shit over the summer. However I do agree the English and tactical knowledge needs to come sooner rather than later; as he has it all in his locker
He's a potential beast. He's world class or Andy Carroll. There is no in between imo.
I love the dopey fucker but we really can't afford for him to fail.
As I said before on another thread, he'd be 6th choice if Firmino wasn't injured. Diaz is only just back from a long term injury and is already starting over him. Jota had been in awful form, but his pressing was enough to start him instead (and now Jota is scoring again, so it's not even a tough decision).
We've been here before with other expensive failures like Cisse and Babel. Quick, scores the odd goal, and thick. Each had their own little fan support group claiming they'd come good and any criticism unwarranted as they scored goals.
Yet some of the people backing him are also the same that have wrote of Jones and Elliott who are both younger and didn't have the fee of a world class player. Or wrote of Gakpo in that horrible poll.
Maybe he gets smarter with his positioning, develops a first touch, and improves his finishing over the summer. But it seems like an awful lot to ask, and I'd sell in a heartbeat if we could get most of the fee back.
We've been here before with other expensive failures like Cisse and Babel. Quick, scores the odd goal, and thick. Each had their own little fan support group claiming they'd come good and any criticism unwarranted as they scored goals.
Yet some of the people backing him are also the same that have wrote of Jones and Elliott who are both younger and didn't have the fee of a world class player. Or wrote of Gakpo in that horrible poll.
Maybe he gets smarter with his positioning, develops a first touch, and improves his finishing over the summer. But it seems like an awful lot to ask, and I'd sell in a heartbeat if we could get most of the fee back.
We can only hope that a) Klopp has a great record with strikers and b) his track record with a Polish striker who had a worse goal tally than Darwin in his first season, in a more settled team too.
I still hold out hope for him, and I was 'too early to tell on Gakpo' !
Lots of similarities between a 21 year old signed for 400k from the Polish league and one of the most expensive players in the world.
We are 5th and he was scoring when Jota and Diaz were out. Bobby was in and out due to injury and Salah would go on long dry spells. The defence, MF and Klopp’s tactics is why we are not challenging and of course the miserly conduct of the owners.
We have 5 attackers going into next season, we play 3 upfront, all of them now are worth £80m in today's market. It's wonderful headache for any manager to have and with so many more games due to Europa League Cup we are going to need all 5 of them
What we need is to sort out the MF and get a CB too, as my confidence in VVD is waning.
Cost created the expectation, but not really relevant as nothing we can do. He's our player and I'm comparing him to Klopp's last great goalscoring CF whom he transformed after his first season (I cannot say struggles as I remember zero of the young Pole).
Other things to factor in:
Language barrier
Decent (?) first season (doesn't match expectations but in terms of goals and assists), like with Benfica, where he improved greatly in his 2nd season.
A manager who works wonders with forward players.
I doubt we're getting a good enough offer to sell, so he's part of the front 5 rotation next year.
& we have that. A very good front 5 in our forward line to pick from.
Klopp seems to be wrapped up in his obsession over counter pressing, Darwin can press just as well as any of the front lads. Build a relationship with him and talk to him.
Indeed.
How is he supposed to become this monster if he can’t get into the team. Gakpo appears to be the preferred option up top and Diaz and Jota are preferred on the left.
As I’ve said before, right now he’s a very expensive Origi. A CF who can kinda play out wide but not in the way we really want.
You can make the argument that it’s good to have options but 65M for us means starter.
"expensive Origi", come on man don't disrespect Nunez like that...Nunez is a far bigger threat than Origi ever was and never got near to the number of goals Nunez has now. Nunez only gets better and with a bit of luck gets 25-30 goals a season EASY.
Gakpo Diaz and Jota weren't exactly 10-20m signings, all were brought in with the intention of being starters too.
Gakpo Diaz and Jota weren't exactly 10-20m signings, all were brought in with the intention of being starters too.
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