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[quote author=mark mc link=topic=35547.msg935103#msg935103 date=1251585836]
[quote author=refugee link=topic=35547.msg935095#msg935095 date=1251585420]
[quote author=mark mc link=topic=35547.msg935085#msg935085 date=1251583551]
]I cant go into detail mate but as ive posted before,fasten your seat belts theres strong turbelence ahead,In other words if its not nailed down it will get sold as these cunts are desperate for evey penny,Rob sheperd in the Sunday scum is exposing the turmoil tmrrow alledgedly.
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Can you tell us if Rafa is fighting the sale?
[/quote]Put it this way,If we sell LDV then Rafa will walk,TO that I have no doubt.
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Cheers Mark.
 
I find it hard to believe that Rafa would walk over the sale of a young promising player.

I find it even harder to believe that we'd sell him for £5m if Rafa and co honestly believed he'd go on to be a valued member of the first team in the next years.

It's £5 million for fucks sake, it's hardly going to make or break the club in terms of finances.
 
Assuming all this is true then we have reached the stage where the mighty Sunderland have possibly outbid us for a player Rafa wanted (Turner) and now Fulham are taking one of our best young players. We are indeed the new Texas Rangers.

And to think, when we have paid off the debts for Hicks and Gillet we can then look forward to another half a billion for a new stadium. Happy happy days.
 
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=35547.msg935108#msg935108 date=1251586024]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35547.msg935106#msg935106 date=1251585953]
I'm in two minds now.
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Ha.

Fuck off Rosco.
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I would hate to lose LDV
 
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=35547.msg935110#msg935110 date=1251586316]
I find it hard to believe that Rafa would walk over the sale of a young promising player.

I find it even harder to believe that we'd sell him for £5m if Rafa and co honestly believed he'd go on to be a valued member of the first team in the next years.

It's £5 million for fucks sake, it's hardly going to make or break the club in terms of finances.
[/quote]These cunts who own us mate would sell the 5 European cups weve won if they could get away with it.
 
Whats happened over all the potential take over's and buy out's anyway.

Amanda what's her face sitting in the stand and brokering a deal on behalf of whoever ?
 
[quote author=mark mc link=topic=35547.msg935113#msg935113 date=1251586402]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=35547.msg935110#msg935110 date=1251586316]
I find it hard to believe that Rafa would walk over the sale of a young promising player.

I find it even harder to believe that we'd sell him for £5m if Rafa and co honestly believed he'd go on to be a valued member of the first team in the next years.

It's £5 million for fucks sake, it's hardly going to make or break the club in terms of finances.
[/quote]These cunts who own us mate would sell the 5 European cups weve won if they could get away with it.
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Surely they must be thinking about selling up if they're going to carry on with this shite?
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35547.msg935112#msg935112 date=1251586386]
[quote author=Rafa4PM link=topic=35547.msg935108#msg935108 date=1251586024]
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35547.msg935106#msg935106 date=1251585953]
I'm in two minds now.
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Ha.

Fuck off Rosco.
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I would hate to lose LDV
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No need to explain i fully understood what you meant.

It wouldn't exactly be the best of starts though would it?

2 defeats, no money to sign anyone, and then to top it off Rafa walks (no smart arse comments needed).
 
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=35547.msg935114#msg935114 date=1251586506]
Whats happened over all the potential take over's and buy out's anyway.

Amanda what's her face sitting in the stand and brokering a deal on behalf of whoever ?


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The fat cunt Hicks wanted 230000007864637 billion.

He could have doubled his money when Sheikh Maktoum come back in 12/18 months ago with the £400M+ offer but fatty said no. I dont think there is anyone out there who is going to pay the money the yanks are asking for, especially when any prospective owner has to then also pay for a new stadium.

Thank you Mr Parry you fooking cock.
 
They can have this LDv for 3.5m:

LDV_Maxus.jpg
 
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=35547.msg935114#msg935114 date=1251586506]
Whats happened over all the potential take over's and buy out's anyway.

Amanda what's her face sitting in the stand and brokering a deal on behalf of whoever ?


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The company that they set up for the takeover is about to be struck off the companies register. So I reckon they aren't interested
 
I also don't buy this 'The yanks have priced the club out of a sale' Spiel.

They are both successful businessmen, regardless of previous sport franchise related hick up's - They must have some idea of how to run this club/business

Somethings gotta give sooner or later.
 
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=35547.msg935121#msg935121 date=1251587123]
I also don't buy this 'The yanks have priced the club out of a sale' Spiel.

They are both successful businessmen, regardless of previous sport franchise related hick up's - They must have some idea of how to run this club/business

Somethings gotta give sooner or later.
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Well they have both declared bancruptcy in the past and we know that Hicks has recently defaulted on loans.

There is No future with them in charge.
 
[quote author=Hamaan link=topic=35547.msg935117#msg935117 date=1251586746]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=35547.msg935114#msg935114 date=1251586506]
Whats happened over all the potential take over's and buy out's anyway.

Amanda what's her face sitting in the stand and brokering a deal on behalf of whoever ?


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The fat cunt Hicks wanted 230000007864637 billion.

He could have doubled his money when Sheikh Maktoum come back in 12/18 months ago with the £400M+ offer but fatty said no. I dont think there is anyone out there who is going to pay the money the yanks are asking for, especially when any prospective owner has to then also pay for a new stadium.

Thank you Mr Parry you fooking cock.
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"“You can be certain that he [Moores] has done his homework carefully and will make a decision in the best interests of the club."

Rick Parry
 
[quote author=Hamaan link=topic=35547.msg935122#msg935122 date=1251587404]


Well they have both declared bancruptcy in the past
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I know Geroge did but I wasn't aware Hicks had?
 
[quote author=Hamaan link=topic=35547.msg935122#msg935122 date=1251587404]
[quote author=Hardcastle link=topic=35547.msg935121#msg935121 date=1251587123]
I also don't buy this 'The yanks have priced the club out of a sale' Spiel.

They are both successful businessmen, regardless of previous sport franchise related hick up's - They must have some idea of how to run this club/business

Somethings gotta give sooner or later.
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Well they have both declared bancruptcy in the past and we know that Hicks has recently defaulted on loans.

There is No future with them in charge.
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I thought I read somewhere that having a business declared bankrupt is less of a social stigma amongst Americans as bank managers considered it to be learning experience. Thus bank managers will be more willing to lend money to a business man with a bankruptcy on their record than someone with a comparable CV with no business experience. No idea if it is true or not but just saying.
 
[quote author=Modokay link=topic=35547.msg935096#msg935096 date=1251585440]
Nice to see Keegan with the Liverbird on his chest again.
I bet Newcastle fans would be livid if they saw this picture.
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Heh, I like how they've claimed Bobby Robson as their own too, despite the fact as a player he turned them down and did much more for Ipswich than Newcastle.
 
The only thing for sure is that it'll be an interesting season on and off the pitch.

I'll be amazed if Rafa walks away from that contract he's got right now.
 
i don't know who's more to blame for these cretins owning the club, parry or moores, but i'm pretty sure both of them have got a LOT to answer for.
 
A loan move would be good for LDV as there doesn't seem to be a place for him in the reserves team. Why was Ecclestone in ahead of him against Blackburn?
 
if he was that good he'd get a game ahead of vermin and n'gog

even if we sell him as long as we have a buy back option at no more than x amount there's no harm here.

liverpool next to chelsea are probably the most unlikely teams in the premiership a young kid is gonna break through. just look at the ayala situation.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=35547.msg935106#msg935106 date=1251585953]
I'm in two minds now.
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That would ensure we have zero chance of winning the league - so let's hope it's wrong.
 
[quote author=Hamaan link=topic=35547.msg935111#msg935111 date=1251586379]
We are indeed the new Texas Rangers.[/quote]

I'm not sure how much you know about baseball Hamaan, but the Rangers are one of the best YOUNG teams in baseball right now - competing for the last playoff spot with the BoSox. Hicks invested in the contracts of Young, Kinsler (one of best 2B in baseball), Hamilton etc and with some great young pitching, they are playing the best ball they've played in some 10 years ... I don't think we'll become the 'new' Texas Rangers ...

Something is happening - that's for sure - but no one really knows what.
 
[quote author=rage link=topic=35547.msg935168#msg935168 date=1251611302]
if he was that good he'd get a game ahead of vermin and n'gog[/quote]


Rafa doesnt' believe in giving kids a chance like that unless there's injuries (see Ayala).
 
He played last night for the U-18s, so I guess this is a no go.

Either way, we won't sell him, he looks like one of the prospects that actually can make it.
 
YOUNG REDS SLUMP TO FOXES DEFEAT
Paul Hassall at the Academy 29 August 2009 Liverpool Under-18s suffered their first defeat of the season after going down 3-0 against a vibrant Leicester City at the Academy on Saturday afternoon. Rodolfo Borrell's men could not recapture the form that saw them overwhelm Fulham on the opening day of the Academy league campaign and they were ultimately undone by the pace and power of an imposing City side.

The early stages of the match had been evenly contested with a combination of the visitors' physical approach and the windy conditions frustrating Liverpool's attempts to play football to feet.

Andre Wisdom and Conor Coady looked impressive at the back as they battled to keep a lively Leicester frontline at bay, although the front two of Lauri Dalla Valle and Krisztian Adorjan struggled to make an impression on the proceedings.

Neither side had a chance of note until the 20 minute mark, but when the visitors finally cut through the Reds defence, they manufactured an opening that should have resulted in the opening goal of the game.

A flowing move down the left saw Craig King send a low ball across the six yard box. Elliot Chamberlain somehow missed his kick under pressure from Coady, leaving John Jorrin to arrive unmarked at the far post. Fortunately for the Reds the winger could not find the finish, as he skewed a disappointing effort well wide of the near post.

It served as a taste of what was to follow with Chris Oldfield doing well to gather at the second attempt following a fierce strike from the edge of the area by Adi Yussef.

The warning signs were there for the hosts and it was Leicester who continued to ask all the questions. A weaving run from Jeff Schlupp was finally halted by the outstretched foot of Wisdom, only for Yussuf to pounce on the deflection and fire in a shot that was somehow kept out by a combination of Oldfield and Coady.

Liverpool were beginning to buckle under the pressure and on 35 minutes the away side finally got the breakthrough their first-half performance deserved. A corner from the left was only half-punched clear by Oldfield, allowing Jorrin to hoist the ball back into the six yard box where Tom Parkes out-jumped a cluster of players to nod Leicester ahead.

It was a setback for the Reds, who suffered a double blow when Oldfield was stretchered off seconds later following a collision in the build up to the goal. It meant Liam Jacob was once again called upon to take his place between the sticks, capping an eventful week in which he also featured for the Reserves at Blackburn Rovers.

It wasn't long before he was right in the thick of the action either, doing well to hold Jorrin's dangerous free-kick before pulling off a miracle stop to deny Chamberlain, with Jorrin crashing the rebound against the post.

Tame efforts from Adam Dawson and Dalla Valle were the best the Reds could muster in a first-half that belonged to the Foxes.

Indeed, the visitors could easily have been well out of sight by the interval, but with just the one goal in it, the Reds restarted the contest hoping to step up a gear or two.

A tactical substitution saw centre back Stephen Sama replace Dawson, but despite Liverpool's best efforts, it was Leicester who looked the greater threat.

The Reds survived a flurry of dangerous set pieces as they looked for a way back into it, before Cian Bolger powered in the visitors' second just shy of the hour mark.

Jacob was then forced to turn aside Yussuf's 25 yarder while Tom Ince and Cooper both saw shots blocked as the home side looked to get a foothold in the game.

With time running out it was the visitors who looked the more likely and Chamberlain rubbed salt in Liverpool's wounds on 76 minutes when he arrowed his drive into the corner from Ben Milnes' short free-kick.

Liverpool under-18s: Chris Oldfield (Liam Jacob 36), John Flanagan, Matthew McGiveron (Jack Robinson 64), Conor Coady, Andre Wisdom, Alex Cooper, Craig Rodden, Adam Dawson (Stephen Sama 46), Tom Ince, Lauri Dalla Valle, Krisztian Adorjan. Unused subs: Marcus Giglio, Michael Ihiekwe
 
[quote author=mark mc link=topic=35547.msg935065#msg935065 date=1251581711]
A Premiership club has offed us around £3.5 million for our rising star,If they offer nearer the £5 million mark there could be a deal brewing and for me I will be fuckin gutted as the Kid is going to be a Superstar.More money for the Twats to pay off the loan.
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I wouldn't necessarily be against taking £3.5m for Dalle Valle as such if the money was used to bring in competent cover for Fernando. The few times I have seen him play I didn't think he particularly stood out as a great prospect. I suppose however the fact that a club is willing to pay that much money for him suggests otherwise.
However nothing is guaranteed when it comes to player development. I seem to recall that Souness as manager of Blackburn offered £1.5m for Djimi Traore when he was still an outstanding prospect playing in our reserves.
 
[quote author=SummerOnions link=topic=35547.msg935461#msg935461 date=1251677180]
Fucking hell.

We're Finnished.
[/quote]Yeah, what on earth will we do without another one of the million kids who wont make it here anyway.
 
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