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Klopp's been crucial for bringing out the best in Lallana, but Lallana also deserves credit for the sheer hard graft he's put in to achieve such an improvement.

It's all good.
 
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Is this a serious question? Every single player, playing at their very best. Obviously.

Real and Barca can't buy everyone, and sometimes - as Gerrard proved - players can't be bought at all. If we're winning trophies and challenging every season, we need players at the very top of their ability, and we won't struggle to replace them should they leave.

I see what you're saying, but what I (possibly badly) was trying to say was, if I had to choose between another five seasons of Phil at 80% of his best and just under a season of him at his very best and then doing one for Barca, I'd choose the former. I wouldn't apply the same logic to the rest of the squad as I don't think most of them are at Barca level even at their best. Phil can be replaced,of course, but that's always an unknown quantity, to some degree.
 
I don't think there's a chance in hell that we'll let him leave this summer. Coutinho is settled and loves having Firmino around.
I think he might give us another two seasons he's still only 24. Don't think he'll join Barca in order to sit on the bench.
 
I don't think there's a chance in hell that we'll let him leave this summer. Coutinho is settled and loves having Firmino around.
I think he might give us another two seasons he's still only 24. Don't think he'll join Barca in order to sit on the bench.
He's south American, they all want to go to Spain. If barca come calling he will want to go. Plus his best friend Neymar is there.
 
He may want to go (though I don't think it's definite) but - and here's something you won't often read in my posts - I agree with Modo. I reckon FSG will play hardball and not allow the transfer, not when the team is "lifting off" as it is now. In a couple of seasons' time, when hopefully we're looking more established back among the big time, if he then wants to leave we'll be more likely to let it happen because then we'll have a better chance of getting a quality replacement.
 
I've always been critical of him, I dont think many on here have been as harsh , he's always had talent but it was on display far too sporadically until 6 months ago or so and this season he has simply been awesome.
 
When are you ever wrong?!?! 🙂

I'm the McGregor of this place.

Seriously though, wrong often - got Ranieri to Leicester wrong - cunt won the fucking league after I'd labelled him "a fraud".

And thought Moreno looked good after his first few performances. I'm sure there are plenty of others which people will be only too happy to dredge up.

I'm not accepting Joe Allen though, dude's a good footballer.
 
I'm the McGregor of this place.

Seriously though, wrong often - got Ranieri to Leicester wrong - cunt won the fucking league after I'd labelled him "a fraud".

And thought Moreno looked good after his first few performances. I'm sure there are plenty of others which people will be only too happy to dredge up.

I'm not accepting Joe Allen though, dude's a good footballer.

I like Joe Allen, but some players just don't make it for whatever reason.
 
I'm the McGregor of this place.

Seriously though, wrong often - got Ranieri to Leicester wrong - cunt won the fucking league after I'd labelled him "a fraud".

And thought Moreno looked good after his first few performances. I'm sure there are plenty of others which people will be only too happy to dredge up.

I'm not accepting Joe Allen though, dude's a good footballer.

You've got loads wrong, agreed.

But calling Ranieri a fraud is not one of them.

It's perhaps a bit harsh, especially given he's just won the title, but there's a reason why nobody expected him to win it, because he's never won anything previously ever

Ranieri winning the league with Leicester was a total Fucking fluke, will never be repeated, and shows that managers are often overrated, and their influence overstated because it will never happen again, either for Ranieri, or Leicester
 
You've got loads wrong, agreed.

But calling Ranieri a fraud is not one of them.

It's perhaps a bit harsh, especially given he's just won the title, but there's a reason why nobody expected him to win it, because he's never won anything previously ever

Ranieri winning the league with Leicester was a total Fucking fluke, will never be repeated, and shows that managers are often overrated, and their influence overstated because it will never happen again, either for Ranieri, or Leicester

Agree with the "fluke" piece, but doesn't take away from the fact that he did a very good job with them over the course of the season. I didn't think he had that in him.
 
Agree with the "fluke" piece, but doesn't take away from the fact that he did a very good job with them over the course of the season. I didn't think he had that in him.

Yeah, but whatever he had in him - with as much respect as I have for the achievement - isn't ever going to be repeated, and I think is possibly overstated

He'll probably win the CL now
 
Yeah, but whatever he had in him - with as much respect as I have for the achievement - isn't ever going to be repeated, and I think is possibly overstated

He'll probably win the CL now

Yeah I've read your "they're a complete anomaly" schtick before, and most of it is spot on, but I think you do their achievement - and Ranieri's specifically - a disservice.

They had every right to crumble at Christmas, and with 10 games to go, and with the title in sight but they didn't at any point - with a team full of losers. They had no experience in winning, nothing to relate to, and Spurs and Arsenal breathing down their neck. They went everywhere and won, and beat all the good sides in doing so - under the spotlight and with the world watching.

He repeatedly set that team up - long after their style had been found out - to win. He built a side out of the composite of it's parts, and he bought well - Kante, Mahrez, Okazaki, Fuchs - passengers that no one had heard of, and built a side to the win the league out of.

Their achievement was a complete anomaly in the grand scheme of things, but it was built out of supreme tactics, man management and coolness under pressure.
 
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