Kop a load of this rubbish
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Squiggles
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At least Henry can see it.
Seeing as we're a top 4 side (or supposed to be), I don't see much wrong with having the fourth highest wage bill in the league.
Obviously it would make sense to take a look at and fix the obvious problems from the past, but I hope this doesn't mean we start skimping on wage bills for top players that might be interested in joining us.
Obviously it would make sense to take a look at and fix the obvious problems from the past, but I hope this doesn't mean we start skimping on wage bills for top players that might be interested in joining us.
Every day another thread slagging or praising Rafa and the club pre-Roy.
He is the problem, he isnt the problem, he spent well, he spent badly, he saved the club, he ruined the club, he's a hero, he's a charlatan....
Who cares. Its over, he's gone, he left trophies and issues in equal measures.
We have new owners and a different(ish) manager.
Can we let the past go now?
He is the problem, he isnt the problem, he spent well, he spent badly, he saved the club, he ruined the club, he's a hero, he's a charlatan....
Who cares. Its over, he's gone, he left trophies and issues in equal measures.
We have new owners and a different(ish) manager.
Can we let the past go now?
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[quote author=juniormember link=topic=42502.msg1208567#msg1208567 date=1288513991]
Seeing as we're a top 4 side (or supposed to be), I don't see much wrong with having the fourth highest wage bill in the league.
Obviously it would make sense to take a look at and fix the obvious problems from the past, but I hope this doesn't mean we start skimping on wage bills for top players that might be interested in joining us.
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Spot on.
Seeing as we're a top 4 side (or supposed to be), I don't see much wrong with having the fourth highest wage bill in the league.
Obviously it would make sense to take a look at and fix the obvious problems from the past, but I hope this doesn't mean we start skimping on wage bills for top players that might be interested in joining us.
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Spot on.
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[quote author=juniormember link=topic=42502.msg1208567#msg1208567 date=1288513991]
Seeing as we're a top 4 side (or supposed to be), I don't see much wrong with having the fourth highest wage bill in the league.
Obviously it would make sense to take a look at and fix the obvious problems from the past, but I hope this doesn't mean we start skimping on wage bills for top players that might be interested in joining us.
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Spot on.
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Yep. Cutting waste out of our system is necessary but won't obviate the need to spend big at the appropriate time.
[quote author=juniormember link=topic=42502.msg1208567#msg1208567 date=1288513991]
Seeing as we're a top 4 side (or supposed to be), I don't see much wrong with having the fourth highest wage bill in the league.
Obviously it would make sense to take a look at and fix the obvious problems from the past, but I hope this doesn't mean we start skimping on wage bills for top players that might be interested in joining us.
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Spot on.
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Yep. Cutting waste out of our system is necessary but won't obviate the need to spend big at the appropriate time.
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Squiggles
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I do have a problem with the wage bill seeing as it's gone up and up and we've gone down and down in recent years.
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the_khl
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Didn't we finish second in the 07/08 Season btw?
This piece just seems like another dig at Liverpool FC, former managers etc. It's Bollocks.
This piece just seems like another dig at Liverpool FC, former managers etc. It's Bollocks.
[quote author=the count link=topic=42502.msg1208636#msg1208636 date=1288523949]
I think Rosco has argued that there is a direct correlation between wage bill and league position.
Clearly all we have to do is increase our wage bill to more than Chelsea's and number nineteen will be in the bag.
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Yep, there is definitely a direct correlation. Check out page 12 and 13 in this pdf:
http://www.playthegame.org/uploads/media/Stefan_Szymanski-The_Reassuring_stability_of_Football_Capitalism.pdf
Read all of it, it's pretty interesting.
Doesn't mean that you should sign shit players and give them massive wages though.
I think Rosco has argued that there is a direct correlation between wage bill and league position.
Clearly all we have to do is increase our wage bill to more than Chelsea's and number nineteen will be in the bag.
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Yep, there is definitely a direct correlation. Check out page 12 and 13 in this pdf:
http://www.playthegame.org/uploads/media/Stefan_Szymanski-The_Reassuring_stability_of_Football_Capitalism.pdf
Read all of it, it's pretty interesting.
Doesn't mean that you should sign shit players and give them massive wages though.
Squiggles, what are you on about? Gone down and down in recent years? That's bollocks. We only finished outside top 4 twice in the last 6 seasons or so and consistently made the knock out stages of the CL.
While there are more than a few players at the club that we deem not good enough, let's not lose sight of the great European nights that we've enjoyed.
While there are more than a few players at the club that we deem not good enough, let's not lose sight of the great European nights that we've enjoyed.
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=42502.msg1208677#msg1208677 date=1288530013]
I don't see what's so controverisal about this article.
It's blindingly obvious and has been for a couple of years now.
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Can't disagree with that, and nor should anyone else.
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I don't see what's so controverisal about this article.
It's blindingly obvious and has been for a couple of years now.
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Can't disagree with that, and nor should anyone else.
regards
This is all true, but I don't think I was the only one who was pleased and excited when we signed Glen Johnson and Joe Cole, for example. For three or four years we all slagged off Rafa because we kept buying too many average, cheapish players instead of splashing out on proven quality.
Johnson and Cole, however much they be underperforming now, were and are proven quality. They knew the league, they knew the culture, they were - on paper - good signings. I think now it's up to the management to get the most out of them.
Johnson and Cole, however much they be underperforming now, were and are proven quality. They knew the league, they knew the culture, they were - on paper - good signings. I think now it's up to the management to get the most out of them.
We had to pay Cole a premium in wages as he was on a free.
I think they are both in the right area, that is the market.
I think it's older players on long term contracts who are not going to have big wages matched by any potential suitors .
Dirk is 31 next year, I tsuspect he is on a long contract and whopping money.
regards
I think they are both in the right area, that is the market.
I think it's older players on long term contracts who are not going to have big wages matched by any potential suitors .
Dirk is 31 next year, I tsuspect he is on a long contract and whopping money.
regards
Does he even turn up for training? Are Cameroon that short of goalies? :-[
Nothing to do with wage bill but something related in terms of money and revenue:
Get in.
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[quote author=Binny link=topic=42502.msg1219383#msg1219383 date=1289924878]
Does he even turn up for training? Are Cameroon that short of goalies? :-[
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How much did we pay for him?
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Don't think actual figure was announced. But saw this on wiki:
[quote author=Binny link=topic=42502.msg1219383#msg1219383 date=1289924878]
Does he even turn up for training? Are Cameroon that short of goalies? :-[
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How much did we pay for him?
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Don't think actual figure was announced. But saw this on wiki:
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=42502.msg1208574#msg1208574 date=1288515421]
Every day another thread slagging or praising Rafa and the club pre-Roy.
He is the problem, he isnt the problem, he spent well, he spent badly, he saved the club, he ruined the club, he's a hero, he's a charlatan....
Who cares. Its over, he's gone, he left trophies and issues in equal measures.
We have new owners and a different(ish) manager.
Can we let the past go now
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The Rafa stuff has become tiresome but the fact that our wage spending is increasing season on season is not a thing of the past, its current and its very relevant to our future survival.
I would have been more surprised if NESV werent looking to reform our wage structure to be honest, Johnson and Cole pulling in 10 million a year between them. A 32 year old defender like Carra who wont be in the first team much longer getting a contract to keep him until hes 35. There are some players being paid way above market value
Every day another thread slagging or praising Rafa and the club pre-Roy.
He is the problem, he isnt the problem, he spent well, he spent badly, he saved the club, he ruined the club, he's a hero, he's a charlatan....
Who cares. Its over, he's gone, he left trophies and issues in equal measures.
We have new owners and a different(ish) manager.
Can we let the past go now
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The Rafa stuff has become tiresome but the fact that our wage spending is increasing season on season is not a thing of the past, its current and its very relevant to our future survival.
I would have been more surprised if NESV werent looking to reform our wage structure to be honest, Johnson and Cole pulling in 10 million a year between them. A 32 year old defender like Carra who wont be in the first team much longer getting a contract to keep him until hes 35. There are some players being paid way above market value
If NESV are that hacked off with Purslow, how come they've asked him to stay on the board? And if this article gets that wrong, how much of the rest is reliable?
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