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This was posted on RAWK, take it as you like...

I've just heard the following information - which I have every reason to believe is true

:: Kenny didn't support Rafa going - Rafa brought him to the club, and thought that it would be best for the club if he stayed

:: Having been tasked with helping the club find a successor, he has been weighing up the options based on who is best for the club and who could galvanise the playing squad - as well as who is available

:: After carefully considering the options, including Roy Hodgson, his recommendation to Christian Purslow is that he take over until the ownership issue is resolved, leaving the club in a better position than it is in now, and a more attractive option for a top manager. He is happy to undertake this for the fans and the club, but is in no way doing this for the current owners.

:: Purlsow has come back stating that the club want Roy Hodgson and Kenny as Director of Football, working with him

:: Kenny doesn't agree with the choice of Hodgson, and makes his feelings known. If they appoint Hodgson, it will appear that it was his choice as he is publicly involved with finding a new manager for the club. If the appointment fails, the responsibility will fall on his head and therefore feels he has no other option than to leave the club – which I believe he is devastated about, as we all know what he thinks about Liverpool, but he has no option having asked for the job and been rejected.

Absolutely gutted!!!!!!! Don't want Hodgson at all

http://www.redandwhitekop.com/forum/index.php?topic=259119.0
 
Later in that thread :

This sort of story was very predictable though, and has already been hinted at on other threads. There's a problem for people to reconcile in their minds - Dalglish as legend who can do no wrong, Purslow as devious snake - but they're apparently friendly and working together. Stories to create a divide between them are inevitable and easier than reassessing Purslow's image.
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That's probably spot on.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=40515.msg1115396#msg1115396 date=1275976866]
Later in that thread :

This sort of story was very predictable though, and has already been hinted at on other threads. There's a problem for people to reconcile in their minds - Dalglish as legend who can do no wrong, Purslow as devious snake - but they're apparently friendly and working together. Stories to create a divide between them are inevitable and easier than reassessing Purslow's image.
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That's probably spot on.
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That was very balanced and well thought out for there , I suspect the perpetrator has been banned already, that lynched or burnt at the stake

regards
 
I don't know what Purslow has done to make certain people believe he was working with anything less than the best interests of the club in mind. As for the story, it does sound like total BS, I couldn't see Kenny ever asking for the job in that way.
 
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=40515.msg1115456#msg1115456 date=1275987079]

I don't know what Purslow has done to make certain people believe he was working with anything less than the best interests of the club in mind.

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Plenty.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40515.msg1115457#msg1115457 date=1275987218]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=40515.msg1115456#msg1115456 date=1275987079]

I don't know what Purslow has done to make certain people believe he was working with anything less than the best interests of the club in mind.

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Plenty.
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Really? I thought it was just retards like rebel who hated him. Are there genuine reasons to distrust him too?
 
And there were his transfer figures from last summer which made very little sense.
 
Well, The Guardian is running with the story that Kenny has quit the selection process and put himself forward to be boss. Express are running something similar apparently.

That's an interesting move if true. Nowhere to hide now for Pusrlow or the Americans. If Dalglish walks because they don't want him... they're done. If Dalglish is appointed and they don't back him fully... they're done.

Talk about politics....
 
Dalglish should certainly have a close role with the first team squad, but I'd rather our manager be someone who had managed in recent years.

And I don't want his reputation soured when it doesn't need to be. Making him assistant manager makes sense to me.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40515.msg1116397#msg1116397 date=1276094337]
Dalglish should certainly have a close role with the first team squad, but I'd rather our manager be someone who had managed in recent years.
And I don't want his reputation soured when it doesn't need to be. Making him assistant manager makes sense to me.


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Yes, and no.
I agree that I think it would not be a good idea to manage, I am not sure if assistant manager is right either, I think he needs a more defined role than ambassador, I don't like the director of football idea , it's not fair on the manager, but something along those lines. If Kenny would fancy being the assistant, then yes, perhaps.

regards
 
[quote author=Vlads Quiff link=topic=40515.msg1116405#msg1116405 date=1276094749]
Yes, and no.
I agree that I think it would not be a good idea to manage, I am not sure if assistant manager is right either, I think he needs a more defined role than ambassador, I don't like the director of football idea , it's not fair on the manager, but something along those lines. If Kenny would fancy being the assistant, then yes, perhaps.

regards
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It's got to be more interesting than his current role, and he always struck me as a man who would do anything for the club.

If he's already mates with Hodgson, as Bunny says, it starts to look a pretty good team.
 
I thought this rumour was dead and buried. As they came from cunt that twittered about it to get attention.
 
It would seem weird to have Kenny as assistant manager though: the title implies juniority (is that a word?). I actually think a Director of Football role would be ideal.
 
Has the Director of Football role ever worked out well? Thats a genuine question. We hear about when it goes wrong but i assume there must be good examples of it too?
 
Broadly speaking, he does what a manager here would do in/from his office, as opposed to out on the pitch. I don't think it's a set-up which suits the English game because managers here are used to making those decisions as well. In Europe the nearest equivalents to Prem managers aren't even called "managers" but are known as coaches or head coaches as a rule, and their work reflects that, so the Dir.of Football thing works a lot better over there.
 
Being the 'assistant manager' is a promotion from Ambassador, or whatever he does at the moment. He hasn't been back at the club long so it's a pretty quick progression seeing he's been out the game for a while.

But then it doesn't really matter what his role is when he's Kenny Dalglish. The players, fans, local media, etc, will always respect him, regardless. If anyone saw it as a "junior" position I think that's rather petty.

On another point football is a simple game for fans. I'm not sure it is for managers, and thinking it is is highly naive, IMO.
 
[quote author=Richey link=topic=40515.msg1116587#msg1116587 date=1276113300]
Has the Director of Football role ever worked out well? Thats a genuine question. We hear about when it goes wrong but i assume there must be good examples of it too?
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Barca, Sevilla, Villarreal?
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=40515.msg1116668#msg1116668 date=1276117964]
Being the 'assistant manager' is a promotion from Ambassador, or whatever he does at the moment. He hasn't been back at the club long so it's a pretty quick progression seeing he's been out the game for a while.

But then it doesn't really matter what his role is when he's Kenny Dalglish. The players, fans, local media, etc, will always respect him, regardless. If anyone saw it as a "junior" position I think that's rather petty.

On another point football is a simple game for fans. I'm not sure it is for managers, and thinking it is is highly naive, IMO.


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I presume it wouldn't bother Kenny too much when you consider that his assistant manager used to be Bob Paisley.
 
[quote author=Richey link=topic=40515.msg1116692#msg1116692 date=1276118814]
In England?
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Should it make any difference?

People say managers in England won't accept it, but we have foreign coaches who are used to working in that sort of setup and even English managers as well.

I can't think of any argument as to why it is suitable for clubs on the continent, but not in England.
 
It shouldn't make a difference in theory but when has it worked here?

Yes foreign coaches are used to it but it was a foreign coach who threw his toys out the pram about control of transfers wasn't it?

I think a problem could be that if others don't have that situation a manager will feel undermined, doubly so if the DofF is a former manager himself
 
[quote author=Richey link=topic=40515.msg1116692#msg1116692 date=1276118814]
In England?
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Chelsea.

The majority of top clubs have one.
 
[quote author=Rosco link=topic=40515.msg1116784#msg1116784 date=1276124045]
[quote author=Richey link=topic=40515.msg1116692#msg1116692 date=1276118814]
In England?
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Chelsea.

The majority of top clubs have one.
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Is that Arneson(sp?) still there?

The one from Spurs?
 
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