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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45743.msg1349939#msg1349939 date=1308168788]
There's deffo legs in us trying to sign Mata. My gut feeling is we're trying to sign several top class players but we're struggling to attract such players. I still expect us to be in the mix next year under Kenny.
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If we're trying that's fair enough. If we don't make a real attempt to sign Mata, or if we have him as a secondary choice to Downing (As I've read somewhere) then it really is unforgivable.
There's deffo legs in us trying to sign Mata. My gut feeling is we're trying to sign several top class players but we're struggling to attract such players. I still expect us to be in the mix next year under Kenny.
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If we're trying that's fair enough. If we don't make a real attempt to sign Mata, or if we have him as a secondary choice to Downing (As I've read somewhere) then it really is unforgivable.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45743.msg1349939#msg1349939 date=1308168788]
I still expect us to be in the mix next year under Kenny.
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that's so mata of fact, I almost believe you.
I still expect us to be in the mix next year under Kenny.
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that's so mata of fact, I almost believe you.
[quote author=reuque link=topic=45743.msg1349917#msg1349917 date=1308167625]
@rorysmith_tel: And, for the fourth time, you might not want to believe it, but #LFC are not going to sign Mata any time soon.
GAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[/quote]I will literally wait till this cunt goes to sleep and squat over him and drape my sack over his nostrils until he coughs and splutters awake, meaning he'll be unproductive all the next day.
Twat.
@rorysmith_tel: And, for the fourth time, you might not want to believe it, but #LFC are not going to sign Mata any time soon.
GAHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
[/quote]I will literally wait till this cunt goes to sleep and squat over him and drape my sack over his nostrils until he coughs and splutters awake, meaning he'll be unproductive all the next day.
Twat.
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=45743.msg1349944#msg1349944 date=1308169075]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45743.msg1349939#msg1349939 date=1308168788]
There's deffo legs in us trying to sign Mata. My gut feeling is we're trying to sign several top class players but we're struggling to attract such players. I still expect us to be in the mix next year under Kenny.
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If we're trying that's fair enough. If we don't make a real attempt to sign Mata, or if we have him as a secondary choice to Downing (As I've read somewhere) then it really is unforgivable.
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We've been making a real attempt to sign Mata for several months mate. The clubs working it's tits off to try and get the best players out there (who will come) who fit into Kennys plan and also invest in up and coming premium talent. I like the look of Henderson - he looks a good pass and move one touch player who will fit into Kennys footballing system and philosophy. He's got to work his cock off to get there though.
People expect miracles at the age of 20 these days. I remember Gerrard getting his debut at 19. For that season and the next he looked a little off the pace and out of sorts but, through hard work and effort, became one of the world's top midfielders. Now if he'd have played for another team at the time and we'd have paid £8m for him at the age of 20 people would be saying he's "only worth £3-4m" or something.
The clubs changed fundamentally. It has a plan and a structured approach for what it wants on and off the field. It's not just a case of buying the best players out there (who we'll struggle to attract because we're not in Europe and not thick arse rich cunts like City) and building a system around them. We'll buy the best players available who'll fit into the system Kenny is defining. A system that showed huge improvements when he took over last year and with a £35m striker (yeh I know jurys out) and Steven Gerrard out injured. They'll be like two new signings themselves.
Most of all though. I wish people would stop getting all arsey and/or panicky over signings etc.. We've no idea truly what's going on in the club transfer wise - who we've approached and who we haven't and, at the end of the day, there's fuck all we can do about it. The players we end up with are the players we'll get. I'll be supporting them to the best of my ability if they pull on a red shirt as long as they play to the best of theirs and give 100%.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45743.msg1349939#msg1349939 date=1308168788]
There's deffo legs in us trying to sign Mata. My gut feeling is we're trying to sign several top class players but we're struggling to attract such players. I still expect us to be in the mix next year under Kenny.
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If we're trying that's fair enough. If we don't make a real attempt to sign Mata, or if we have him as a secondary choice to Downing (As I've read somewhere) then it really is unforgivable.
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We've been making a real attempt to sign Mata for several months mate. The clubs working it's tits off to try and get the best players out there (who will come) who fit into Kennys plan and also invest in up and coming premium talent. I like the look of Henderson - he looks a good pass and move one touch player who will fit into Kennys footballing system and philosophy. He's got to work his cock off to get there though.
People expect miracles at the age of 20 these days. I remember Gerrard getting his debut at 19. For that season and the next he looked a little off the pace and out of sorts but, through hard work and effort, became one of the world's top midfielders. Now if he'd have played for another team at the time and we'd have paid £8m for him at the age of 20 people would be saying he's "only worth £3-4m" or something.
The clubs changed fundamentally. It has a plan and a structured approach for what it wants on and off the field. It's not just a case of buying the best players out there (who we'll struggle to attract because we're not in Europe and not thick arse rich cunts like City) and building a system around them. We'll buy the best players available who'll fit into the system Kenny is defining. A system that showed huge improvements when he took over last year and with a £35m striker (yeh I know jurys out) and Steven Gerrard out injured. They'll be like two new signings themselves.
Most of all though. I wish people would stop getting all arsey and/or panicky over signings etc.. We've no idea truly what's going on in the club transfer wise - who we've approached and who we haven't and, at the end of the day, there's fuck all we can do about it. The players we end up with are the players we'll get. I'll be supporting them to the best of my ability if they pull on a red shirt as long as they play to the best of theirs and give 100%.
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45743.msg1349959#msg1349959 date=1308170048]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=45743.msg1349944#msg1349944 date=1308169075]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45743.msg1349939#msg1349939 date=1308168788]
There's deffo legs in us trying to sign Mata. My gut feeling is we're trying to sign several top class players but we're struggling to attract such players. I still expect us to be in the mix next year under Kenny.
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If we're trying that's fair enough. If we don't make a real attempt to sign Mata, or if we have him as a secondary choice to Downing (As I've read somewhere) then it really is unforgivable.
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We've been making a real attempt to sign Mata for several months mate. The clubs working it's tits off to try and get the best players out there (who will come) who fit into Kennys plan and also invest in up and coming premium talent. I like the look of Henderson - he looks a good pass and move one touch player who will fit into Kennys footballing system and philosophy. He's got to work his cock off to get there though.
People expect miracles at the age of 20 these days. I remember Gerrard getting his debut at 19. For that season and the next he looked a little off the pace and out of sorts but, through hard work and effort, became one of the world's top midfielders. Now if he'd have played for another team at the time and we'd have paid £8m for him at the age of 20 people would be saying he's "only worth £3-4m" or something.
The clubs changed fundamentally. It has a plan and a structured approach for what it wants on and off the field. It's not just a case of buying the best players out there (who we'll struggle to attract because we're not in Europe and not thick arse rich cunts like City) and building a system around them. We'll buy the best players available who'll fit into the system Kenny is defining. A system that showed huge improvements when he took over last year and with a £35m striker (yeh I know jurys out) and Steven Gerrard out injured. They'll be like two new signings themselves.
Most of all though. I wish people would stop getting all arsey and/or panicky over signings etc.. We've no idea truly what's going on in the club transfer wise - who we've approached and who we haven't and, at the end of the day, there's fuck all we can do about it. The players we end up with are the players we'll get. I'll be supporting them to the best of my ability if they pull on a red shirt as long as they play to the best of theirs and give 100%.
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Shining post sunny 8)
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=45743.msg1349944#msg1349944 date=1308169075]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=45743.msg1349939#msg1349939 date=1308168788]
There's deffo legs in us trying to sign Mata. My gut feeling is we're trying to sign several top class players but we're struggling to attract such players. I still expect us to be in the mix next year under Kenny.
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If we're trying that's fair enough. If we don't make a real attempt to sign Mata, or if we have him as a secondary choice to Downing (As I've read somewhere) then it really is unforgivable.
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We've been making a real attempt to sign Mata for several months mate. The clubs working it's tits off to try and get the best players out there (who will come) who fit into Kennys plan and also invest in up and coming premium talent. I like the look of Henderson - he looks a good pass and move one touch player who will fit into Kennys footballing system and philosophy. He's got to work his cock off to get there though.
People expect miracles at the age of 20 these days. I remember Gerrard getting his debut at 19. For that season and the next he looked a little off the pace and out of sorts but, through hard work and effort, became one of the world's top midfielders. Now if he'd have played for another team at the time and we'd have paid £8m for him at the age of 20 people would be saying he's "only worth £3-4m" or something.
The clubs changed fundamentally. It has a plan and a structured approach for what it wants on and off the field. It's not just a case of buying the best players out there (who we'll struggle to attract because we're not in Europe and not thick arse rich cunts like City) and building a system around them. We'll buy the best players available who'll fit into the system Kenny is defining. A system that showed huge improvements when he took over last year and with a £35m striker (yeh I know jurys out) and Steven Gerrard out injured. They'll be like two new signings themselves.
Most of all though. I wish people would stop getting all arsey and/or panicky over signings etc.. We've no idea truly what's going on in the club transfer wise - who we've approached and who we haven't and, at the end of the day, there's fuck all we can do about it. The players we end up with are the players we'll get. I'll be supporting them to the best of my ability if they pull on a red shirt as long as they play to the best of theirs and give 100%.
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Shining post sunny 8)
Yeah agree with all of that, Sunny. I'm just venting because we're seemingly after players who I either don't rate when I've seen them play, or I haven't seen them play too much at all. It doesn't mean I'll support them any less than Gerrard/Suarez because I don't believe they have the same ability. The second they put on the shirt I'll be willing them to do well.
It's just worrying (for me, at least) when you see us being linked to players of a similar level to those who have tried and failed for us before. I discount the likes of Henderson, Wickham in this as they're being bought for their potential. It was more aimed at the likes of Downing and Adam who have been around for a while without setting the world alight. Just like Pennant, Bellamy et al.
I'm just worried that we're going around in circles. I don't doubt that the club would like to sign the best players in the world, but that may not be possible right now (Although Suarez's signing may be evidence to the contrary). Not that I'd know what the club does behind closed doors, I wouldn't want it that way, I'm just forming opinions based on speculation I read in here.
And, to be honest, I'm quite pessimistic when it comes to this sort of stuff anyway!
It's just worrying (for me, at least) when you see us being linked to players of a similar level to those who have tried and failed for us before. I discount the likes of Henderson, Wickham in this as they're being bought for their potential. It was more aimed at the likes of Downing and Adam who have been around for a while without setting the world alight. Just like Pennant, Bellamy et al.
I'm just worried that we're going around in circles. I don't doubt that the club would like to sign the best players in the world, but that may not be possible right now (Although Suarez's signing may be evidence to the contrary). Not that I'd know what the club does behind closed doors, I wouldn't want it that way, I'm just forming opinions based on speculation I read in here.
And, to be honest, I'm quite pessimistic when it comes to this sort of stuff anyway!
[quote author=localny link=topic=45743.msg1350083#msg1350083 date=1308188809]
Hal - Bellamy was above a plodder I thought. pretty good. Downing feels like an improvement on pennant, but still is no flying Dutch winger.
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He's not a top 4 striker, and not good enough for a team with hopes of winning the league. Plus he scored about 7 league goals for us. He was an average signing/player for us.
Hal - Bellamy was above a plodder I thought. pretty good. Downing feels like an improvement on pennant, but still is no flying Dutch winger.
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He's not a top 4 striker, and not good enough for a team with hopes of winning the league. Plus he scored about 7 league goals for us. He was an average signing/player for us.
Wow! hope this is true I think he's top drawer. Good feet.
our tactics for negotiating fees for players is fuckin absurd, offer shit loads straight away for players that arnt really worth it, throw a couple of pennies at players that are fuckin boss
its like sayin "look mate ive just bought this arse tastin sandwich for £20 but i guess il take that four course gourmet meal off ya for 2. fiddy"
its like sayin "look mate ive just bought this arse tastin sandwich for £20 but i guess il take that four course gourmet meal off ya for 2. fiddy"
it's just a mata of time before he joins.
[quote author=Cerberus link=topic=45743.msg1350359#msg1350359 date=1308229644]
Everytime a member of SCM makes a Juan Mata pun a kitten dies.
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juan more mata joke and I'm done ;D
Everytime a member of SCM makes a Juan Mata pun a kitten dies.
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juan more mata joke and I'm done ;D
[quote author=Cerberus link=topic=45743.msg1350359#msg1350359 date=1308229644]
Everytime a member of SCM makes a Juan Mata pun a kitten dies.
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Pah. That explains the feline corpses all over the place. Was just juandering what was going on.
edit: Pah! There goes another! Mew....meh.
Everytime a member of SCM makes a Juan Mata pun a kitten dies.
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Pah. That explains the feline corpses all over the place. Was just juandering what was going on.
edit: Pah! There goes another! Mew....meh.
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