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Theres a media witch hunt for the lad now.
Beglin and yer other cunt were WILLING him to fuck up in that game. And did everything to try to blame him for almost every attack.
At one point he came out of nowhere to somehow head clear when Eduardo looked odds on to score. Neither Eduardo or anyone else claimed a pen, and it looked like a world class clearance, but those two had him conceeding a pen and sent off.
Its bollocks. Our 'suspect' right side didnt put a foot wrong for 89 minutes, and perhaps Johnson could have done better on the cross, he didnt get close enough early enough, but the ball dropped 3 times in the 6 yard box and no one cleared it. Not a mention of Terry or Upson? Upson gave the ball away twice on the edge of the area in the second half. Not a mention. Cole was at fault for the cross that Johnson somehow headed clear. Not a mention.
I could go on. Fuck the media. Johnson is great.
Beglin and yer other cunt were WILLING him to fuck up in that game. And did everything to try to blame him for almost every attack.
At one point he came out of nowhere to somehow head clear when Eduardo looked odds on to score. Neither Eduardo or anyone else claimed a pen, and it looked like a world class clearance, but those two had him conceeding a pen and sent off.
Its bollocks. Our 'suspect' right side didnt put a foot wrong for 89 minutes, and perhaps Johnson could have done better on the cross, he didnt get close enough early enough, but the ball dropped 3 times in the 6 yard box and no one cleared it. Not a mention of Terry or Upson? Upson gave the ball away twice on the edge of the area in the second half. Not a mention. Cole was at fault for the cross that Johnson somehow headed clear. Not a mention.
I could go on. Fuck the media. Johnson is great.
I'm not sure why everyone keeps crying about this. Yes he's been great but of course he can and should improve his defensive play.
[quote author=Roopy link=topic=35742.msg940981#msg940981 date=1252545894]
It's in fashion to blame Glen Johnson for pretty much anything.
If I failed my mid-sem on Statistics ... I'm blaming Johnson.
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At least it gives Lucas some reprieve...
It's in fashion to blame Glen Johnson for pretty much anything.
If I failed my mid-sem on Statistics ... I'm blaming Johnson.
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At least it gives Lucas some reprieve...
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=35742.msg941009#msg941009 date=1252562182]
I'm not sure why everyone keeps crying about this. Yes he's been great but of course he can and should improve his defensive play.
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Point is, so should every player. Johnson's being singled out to an insane extent.
I'm not sure why everyone keeps crying about this. Yes he's been great but of course he can and should improve his defensive play.
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Point is, so should every player. Johnson's being singled out to an insane extent.
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=35742.msg941009#msg941009 date=1252562182]
I'm not sure why everyone keeps crying about this. Yes he's been great but of course he can and should improve his defensive play.
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Yep. I agree with Beglin in the respect that Glenjo should take more *pride* in improving defensively and becoming a better defender. He doesn't seem too bothered when a winger beats him or whips in a cross.
Glen's attacking play is world class, no question. What holds him back from being referred to as a "world class full back" is his apparent laziness going backwards. Sometimes he just strolls back, or is out of position or simply doesn't put enough pressure on a winger. If he improves the defensive side of his game, a bit like how Ashley Cole did, then he'll be one of the best in the world.
I'm not sure why everyone keeps crying about this. Yes he's been great but of course he can and should improve his defensive play.
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Yep. I agree with Beglin in the respect that Glenjo should take more *pride* in improving defensively and becoming a better defender. He doesn't seem too bothered when a winger beats him or whips in a cross.
Glen's attacking play is world class, no question. What holds him back from being referred to as a "world class full back" is his apparent laziness going backwards. Sometimes he just strolls back, or is out of position or simply doesn't put enough pressure on a winger. If he improves the defensive side of his game, a bit like how Ashley Cole did, then he'll be one of the best in the world.
Isn't this the difference between wing backs and full backs though. Wing backs offer more going forward but a tad less defensively.
I am not that arsed about England, from what I have see he seems to be at least as good as Alvaro defencively , and as good going forward on the right as we have had in donkeys years, so I am happy.
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I am not that arsed about England, from what I have see he seems to be at least as good as Alvaro defencively , and as good going forward on the right as we have had in donkeys years, so I am happy.
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Don't get me wrong, I think he's an excellent signing and if he keeps it up he's just what we needed. And the two CB's are going to have to do a little bit more work to cover him / for him, to balance out the massive improvement we're going to get from him in an attacking sense.
He'd be ideally suited to a wingback position or that 5 at the back thing.
He'd be ideally suited to a wingback position or that 5 at the back thing.
we have two holding midfielders and the harderst working right midfielder in the league, we'll cope.
[quote author=Asbo link=topic=35742.msg941126#msg941126 date=1252581058]
He's started on a Stormer in the league for Liverpool.
He's scored goals
Assisted
Won Penalties
and the 'media' have said fuck this, lets destroy his confidence, he's supposed to be a waste of money, Rafa's supposed to have payed over the odds for him!
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More fool them then. Rafa wanted a RB that would get forward and contribute more to our attacks, and being English was also an extra added bonus so he got it spot on in my opinion. I'm not sure could have signed a more effective RB for the premier league in world football to be honest, to fit that bill.
I'm sure we could have got a rock solid RB that offered nothing going forward for much cheaper, but it's not what we need.
He's started on a Stormer in the league for Liverpool.
He's scored goals
Assisted
Won Penalties
and the 'media' have said fuck this, lets destroy his confidence, he's supposed to be a waste of money, Rafa's supposed to have payed over the odds for him!
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More fool them then. Rafa wanted a RB that would get forward and contribute more to our attacks, and being English was also an extra added bonus so he got it spot on in my opinion. I'm not sure could have signed a more effective RB for the premier league in world football to be honest, to fit that bill.
I'm sure we could have got a rock solid RB that offered nothing going forward for much cheaper, but it's not what we need.
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=35742.msg940958#msg940958 date=1252541014]
Theres a media witch hunt for the lad now.
Beglin and yer other cunt were WILLING him to fuck up in that game. And did everything to try to blame him for almost every attack.
At one point he came out of nowhere to somehow head clear when Eduardo looked odds on to score. Neither Eduardo or anyone else claimed a pen, and it looked like a world class clearance, but those two had him conceeding a pen and sent off.
Its bollocks. Our 'suspect' right side didnt put a foot wrong for 89 minutes, and perhaps Johnson could have done better on the cross, he didnt get close enough early enough, but the ball dropped 3 times in the 6 yard box and no one cleared it. Not a mention of Terry or Upson? Upson gave the ball away twice on the edge of the area in the second half. Not a mention. Cole was at fault for the cross that Johnson somehow headed clear. Not a mention.
I could go on. Fuck the media. Johnson is great.
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spot on, nothing is said when other defenders miss a block or tackle. No full back stops every cross do they FFS.
He is ace, all the goals came from that right hand side.
I don't remember Roberto Carlos getting this much stick when he played like Glen.
English media would rather a Neville or Brown type fucker who contributes fuck all going forward, Capello knows the value of Glen.
Theres a media witch hunt for the lad now.
Beglin and yer other cunt were WILLING him to fuck up in that game. And did everything to try to blame him for almost every attack.
At one point he came out of nowhere to somehow head clear when Eduardo looked odds on to score. Neither Eduardo or anyone else claimed a pen, and it looked like a world class clearance, but those two had him conceeding a pen and sent off.
Its bollocks. Our 'suspect' right side didnt put a foot wrong for 89 minutes, and perhaps Johnson could have done better on the cross, he didnt get close enough early enough, but the ball dropped 3 times in the 6 yard box and no one cleared it. Not a mention of Terry or Upson? Upson gave the ball away twice on the edge of the area in the second half. Not a mention. Cole was at fault for the cross that Johnson somehow headed clear. Not a mention.
I could go on. Fuck the media. Johnson is great.
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spot on, nothing is said when other defenders miss a block or tackle. No full back stops every cross do they FFS.
He is ace, all the goals came from that right hand side.
I don't remember Roberto Carlos getting this much stick when he played like Glen.
English media would rather a Neville or Brown type fucker who contributes fuck all going forward, Capello knows the value of Glen.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35742.msg941125#msg941125 date=1252580311]
we have two holding midfielders and the harderst working right midfielder in the league, we'll cope.
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Is it a worry for me if I agree with you?
we have two holding midfielders and the harderst working right midfielder in the league, we'll cope.
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Is it a worry for me if I agree with you?
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35742.msg941125#msg941125 date=1252580311]
we have two holding midfielders and the harderst working right midfielder in the league, we'll cope.
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Is it a worry for me if I agree with you?
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not really, I don't post stuff for people to agree with me, to tell the truth I just use this forum to get stuff off my chest and vent, whether people agree with me or not is neither here nor there.
tell a lie I'd want rafa (if he visited this board) to agree but seeing as rafa seems to do most of the stuff I want it's a non issue.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35742.msg941125#msg941125 date=1252580311]
we have two holding midfielders and the harderst working right midfielder in the league, we'll cope.
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Is it a worry for me if I agree with you?
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not really, I don't post stuff for people to agree with me, to tell the truth I just use this forum to get stuff off my chest and vent, whether people agree with me or not is neither here nor there.
tell a lie I'd want rafa (if he visited this board) to agree but seeing as rafa seems to do most of the stuff I want it's a non issue.
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[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=35742.msg941154#msg941154 date=1252586037]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35742.msg941125#msg941125 date=1252580311]
we have two holding midfielders and the harderst working right midfielder in the league, we'll cope.
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Is it a worry for me if I agree with you?
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not really, I don't post stuff for people to agree with me, to tell the truth I just use this forum to get stuff off myself and vent, whether people agree with me or not is neither here nor there.
tell a lie I'd want rafa (if he visited this board) to agree but seeing as rafa seems to do most of the stuff I want it's a non issue.
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So it was your fucking idea to sign Degen
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35742.msg941125#msg941125 date=1252580311]
we have two holding midfielders and the harderst working right midfielder in the league, we'll cope.
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Is it a worry for me if I agree with you?
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not really, I don't post stuff for people to agree with me, to tell the truth I just use this forum to get stuff off myself and vent, whether people agree with me or not is neither here nor there.
tell a lie I'd want rafa (if he visited this board) to agree but seeing as rafa seems to do most of the stuff I want it's a non issue.
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So it was your fucking idea to sign Degen
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35742.msg941170#msg941170 date=1252588798]
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=35742.msg941154#msg941154 date=1252586037]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35742.msg941125#msg941125 date=1252580311]
we have two holding midfielders and the harderst working right midfielder in the league, we'll cope.
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ha ha ;D
Is it a worry for me if I agree with you?
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not really, I don't post stuff for people to agree with me, to tell the truth I just use this forum to get stuff off myself and vent, whether people agree with me or not is neither here nor there.
tell a lie I'd want rafa (if he visited this board) to agree but seeing as rafa seems to do most of the stuff I want it's a non issue.
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So it was your fucking idea to sign Degen
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[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35742.msg941170#msg941170 date=1252588798]
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=35742.msg941154#msg941154 date=1252586037]
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35742.msg941125#msg941125 date=1252580311]
we have two holding midfielders and the harderst working right midfielder in the league, we'll cope.
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ha ha ;D
Is it a worry for me if I agree with you?
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not really, I don't post stuff for people to agree with me, to tell the truth I just use this forum to get stuff off myself and vent, whether people agree with me or not is neither here nor there.
tell a lie I'd want rafa (if he visited this board) to agree but seeing as rafa seems to do most of the stuff I want it's a non issue.
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So it was your fucking idea to sign Degen
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=35742.msg940958#msg940958 date=1252541014]
Theres a media witch hunt for the lad now.
Beglin and yer other cunt were WILLING him to fuck up in that game. And did everything to try to blame him for almost every attack.
At one point he came out of nowhere to somehow head clear when Eduardo looked odds on to score. Neither Eduardo or anyone else claimed a pen, and it looked like a world class clearance, but those two had him conceeding a pen and sent off.
Its bollocks. Our 'suspect' right side didnt put a foot wrong for 89 minutes, and perhaps Johnson could have done better on the cross, he didnt get close enough early enough, but the ball dropped 3 times in the 6 yard box and no one cleared it. Not a mention of Terry or Upson? Upson gave the ball away twice on the edge of the area in the second half. Not a mention. Cole was at fault for the cross that Johnson somehow headed clear. Not a mention.
I could go on. Fuck the media. Johnson is great.
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TBH that was a penalty and their manager was doing his nut on the touchline. Maybe Eduardo didn't want to open his mouth for obvious reasons.
That said however I took one of the national papers to task over showing a photo of that tackle and then saying Johnson lucky not to give away a penalty with a reckless tackle" ...... or words to that effect. I posted that it was a quality 'professional foul' he got away with. There is no way he could get the ball without going over Eduardo but if he didn't Eduardo was a certainty to score, 6 yds out and the ball was going to land on his head as if laser guided. Great pro tackle in the circumstances that Johnson got away with.
Theres a media witch hunt for the lad now.
Beglin and yer other cunt were WILLING him to fuck up in that game. And did everything to try to blame him for almost every attack.
At one point he came out of nowhere to somehow head clear when Eduardo looked odds on to score. Neither Eduardo or anyone else claimed a pen, and it looked like a world class clearance, but those two had him conceeding a pen and sent off.
Its bollocks. Our 'suspect' right side didnt put a foot wrong for 89 minutes, and perhaps Johnson could have done better on the cross, he didnt get close enough early enough, but the ball dropped 3 times in the 6 yard box and no one cleared it. Not a mention of Terry or Upson? Upson gave the ball away twice on the edge of the area in the second half. Not a mention. Cole was at fault for the cross that Johnson somehow headed clear. Not a mention.
I could go on. Fuck the media. Johnson is great.
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TBH that was a penalty and their manager was doing his nut on the touchline. Maybe Eduardo didn't want to open his mouth for obvious reasons.
That said however I took one of the national papers to task over showing a photo of that tackle and then saying Johnson lucky not to give away a penalty with a reckless tackle" ...... or words to that effect. I posted that it was a quality 'professional foul' he got away with. There is no way he could get the ball without going over Eduardo but if he didn't Eduardo was a certainty to score, 6 yds out and the ball was going to land on his head as if laser guided. Great pro tackle in the circumstances that Johnson got away with.
Johnson showing weakness defensively? 😱 Who would have thought it of the best right back in the world? 😛 😛
I kid. I kid
I kid. I kid
without fanning the flames I thought it was a stonewall penalty myself, we wanted a penalty for the voronin shoulder barge and it was a lot less contact.
[quote author=spider-neil link=topic=35742.msg941221#msg941221 date=1252599246]
without fanning the flames I thought it was a stonewall penalty myself, we wanted a penalty for the voronin shoulder barge and it was a lot less contact.
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Indeed it was, but Frogfish is right. What else could Johnson do in the circumstances? If he'd left Eduardo he'd have doubtless scored but if he challenged him he ran the risk of an obvious foul.
Somehow, he managed to both challenge Eduardo and thwart the definite goal. Well done that lad.
without fanning the flames I thought it was a stonewall penalty myself, we wanted a penalty for the voronin shoulder barge and it was a lot less contact.
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Indeed it was, but Frogfish is right. What else could Johnson do in the circumstances? If he'd left Eduardo he'd have doubtless scored but if he challenged him he ran the risk of an obvious foul.
Somehow, he managed to both challenge Eduardo and thwart the definite goal. Well done that lad.
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The Voronin one in incomparable because the defender has no intention whatsoever of playing the ball
Johnson did, and he won it too. It's just the means how he managed it which is up for discussion. It's a lot more debatable.
Johnson did, and he won it too. It's just the means how he managed it which is up for discussion. It's a lot more debatable.
Glen Johnson is not a great defender. The fact is however, he'll likely create more goals at the other end, than he'll concede at our end. I think that's probably the sum Rafa did before he bought him.
I'm delighted with him.
I'm delighted with him.
[quote author=Delinquent link=topic=35742.msg941412#msg941412 date=1252627403]
Glen Johnson is not a great defender. The fact is however, he'll likely create more goals at the other end, than he'll concede at our end. I think that's probably the sum Rafa did before he bought him.
I'm delighted with him.
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I don't think the importance of Dirk can be underestimated when it comes to Johnson.
To be fair, I don't think Glenjo's that bad a defender, and a few years under Rafa's influence will probably eradicate most of his naivety when it comes to the defensive side of his game.
Glen Johnson is not a great defender. The fact is however, he'll likely create more goals at the other end, than he'll concede at our end. I think that's probably the sum Rafa did before he bought him.
I'm delighted with him.
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I don't think the importance of Dirk can be underestimated when it comes to Johnson.
To be fair, I don't think Glenjo's that bad a defender, and a few years under Rafa's influence will probably eradicate most of his naivety when it comes to the defensive side of his game.
As I said earlier he is as good a defender than Alvaro, probably better, as he is quicker, and better going forward on the right than we have had for some time
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