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Relieved if true. Don't need another Naby in the squad.
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Chelsea and Liverpool are set to miss out on January transfer target Konrad Laimer as the RB Leipzig and Austria midfielder, 25, wants to join Bayern Munich when his contract expires in the summer. (Bild, via Express)

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bluebell said:
I'd be tempted, he has pissed me off this season so many times

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'£150m': Chairman insists Real Madrid would be willing to pay massive money to sign 24-year-old Liverpool player

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James Brooke
Real Madrid would be willing to spend massive money on bringing Liverpool’s Trent Alexander-Arnold to Spain.
That’s according to Peterborough United chairman, and Liverpool fan, Darragh MacAnthony. Speaking on his The Hard Truth podcast, MacAnthony made the claim whilst assessing England’s squad ahead of the World Cup.
“That England team could be as good as any team. Forget about the deficiencies at the back,” the Irishman said. “They can still name a John Stones, who is a £60 million player, Harry Maguire, forget the form, he’s an £80 million player. Trent Alexander-Arnold – Real Madrid would pay £150 million for him tomorrow.
“The only area I’m not confident is about is left-back, but you could play Trippier over there and he’s playing great for Newcastle.”
They’d have to double it before Liverpool even thought about coming to the table.
Alexander-Arnold going nowhere

Although MacAnthony’s thought is a hypothetical one, it’s interesting to dig deeper into it.

Of course, there’s no suggestion that Liverpool are looking to part ways with Trent. Right now, it could be assumed that the 24-year-old is gearing up to be a one-club man.
Certainly, it’s hard to see a scenario where the boyhood Reds fan would be looking to leave his hometown.
But, you never know in football. If Liverpool drop off from the heights they’ve recently been reaching, then maybe Alexander-Arnold would get itchy feet.
In which case, surely the only option would be a move abroad.
Liverpool players have ‘betrayed’ the fanbase before by joining high-profile rivals in England, sure. But with a local lad at the top of his game, it would be a whole new kettle of fish.
Steven Gerrard almost did it, and his relationship with his devoted supporters took some repairing. Thankfully, he was able to mend the hurt he caused Reds fans by almost joining Chelsea. Had he jumped ship in 2005 though, he’d have struggled to make it back to the city without a security escort.
Hopefully Trent doesn’t entertain a similar exit. But he shouldn’t be kept prisoner if he ever did want to go either. If that situation ever became a reality, you could bet that the big boys from across the continent would be willing and ready to break the bank on him. He’s just that good.



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Took me a while to decide how I felt about this...
If true we should sell.. Defence wise he is average,lazy and mistake prone. The only saving grace is the passes that he picks out...

If the £150m that Real would pay for him meant that they could no longer afford Jude and he would sign for us it would be worth it.

Selling the Ox and Keita plus left over money from £150m would also help get Rice.

Take the money
 
Is this FSGs new model to help us compete financially? Sell the top players for big money with instructions to flop hard and return within 18 months at half price?

Anythings better than the current situation where we’re loaning Arthur Melo
 
Here’s the thing, if we get rid of Trent we’ll improve defensively and concede less. We’ll also create less chances and score fewer goals.

I’m not sure how that makes us better or more likely to win things.
 

[article]Liverpool assistant coach Pep Lijnders is championing a move for PSV Eindhoven star Cody Gakpo.

He has scored two goals at the World Cup in his two matches, including a great strike in the Netherlands' draw with Ecuador. That form, along with his previous showings for PSV Eindhoven, has seen the player linked with a move to the Premier League.

Liverpool have been credited with an interest, as have Manchester United and Leeds. According to Dutch TV presenter Hans Kraay, Reds assistant Lijnders is an admirer of Gakpo and wants the club to sign the player.

“Gakpo is gone. PSV are not going to keep him, and cannot keep him anymore," Kraay told ESPN.

“Gakpo will soon be playing in the Premier League. The chance that it will be Manchester United is now a lot higher again, because Cristiano Ronaldo has left.

“They have even more money available. At Liverpool, assistant Pepijn Lijnders is charmed by him, so he is chasing Jürgen Klopp. Yes, Gakpo is gone."[/article]
 
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Why do we need Gakpo? He plays in exactly the same channels as Darwin, as a no. 9 or a LWF, which is also where Jota plays. Then there's Diaz and Carvalho to account for too, who're both left-sided players. If we need another attacker, it should ideally be a versatile player who can play on the right (as Salah's backup) and through the centre and maybe also as one of the advanced 2 mids in the 4-2-2-2. Kudus, Moukoko or Okafor are good candidates. Versatile and can play in a number of positions in the center and on the right.

We have plenty of players for the center and left. Creating a logjam there is not smart squad building.
 
dmishra said:
Why do we need Gakpo? He plays in exactly the same channels as Darwin, as a no. 9 or a LWF, which is also where Jota plays. Then there's Diaz and Carvalho to account for too, who're both left-sided players. If we need another attacker, it should ideally be a versatile player who can play on the right (as Salah's backup) and through the centre and maybe also as one of the advanced 2 mids in the 4-2-2-2. Kudus, Moukoko or Okafor are good candidates. Versatile and can play in a number of positions in the center and on the right.

We have plenty of players for the center and left. Creating a logjam there is not smart squad building.
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I will give you one more reason why we shouldn't buy him. The person who thought it was a good idea to write a book called "Intensity" rates him.
 
peekay said:
I will give you one more reason why we shouldn't buy him. The person who thought it was a good idea to write a book called "Intensity" rates him.
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That too. Scouting and data analysis is a full-time job and should be best left to specialist recruitment teams instead of coaches. It's why this Graham and Ward departures are very concerning. Lijnders, by all accounts, is a very good coach, but he needs to stick to that only. And not write any more books either.

Klopp is actually one of those rare managers who takes a special interest in player development and has an exceptional knowledge base about young players across Europe. It's very rare in managers (maybe Wenger was the one other); so I'm comfortable in him having a substantial role in player recruitment, but I'd still prefer it to be analytics-led. It's the way every good sporting team does it now.

One of the reasons why I think United are still screwed is because of how they recruited this summer - Martinez, Antony, Malacia, Eriksen and an extensive pursuit of Timber - all players ten Hag had worked with before. It's the first sign of bad recruitment - giving the manager the overarching power to recruit, and that manager going back to players he's worked with before. It's unimaginative and very inefficient economically as well. Rodgers did that shit too - Allen, Borini. Wanted to buy Clint Dempsey, overruled the transfer committee and signed Benteke (the flavour of the month in the PL then) when he was desperate for goals.

Klopp on the other hand has never once shown interest in any of his former players.
 
dmishra said:
That too. Scouting and data analysis is a full-time job and should be best left to specialist recruitment teams instead of coaches. It's why this Graham and Ward departures are very concerning. Lijnders, by all accounts, is a very good coach, but he needs to stick to that only. And not write any more books either.

Klopp is actually one of those rare managers who takes a special interest in player development and has an exceptional knowledge base about young players across Europe. It's very rare in managers (maybe Wenger was the one other); so I'm comfortable in him having a substantial role in player recruitment, but I'd still prefer it to be analytics-led. It's the way every good sporting team does it now.
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Yeah, one good example will be how Klopp was apparently persuaded about Salah by Edwards when Klopp himself preferred Pulisic, Draxler and Brandt instead (https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/...-to-juergen-klopps-goalscoring-star-m6wlq0chf)
 
bluebell said:
I'd be tempted, he has pissed me off this season so many times

[article]
'£150m': Chairman insists Real Madrid would be willing to pay massive money to sign 24-year-old Liverpool player

1 hour ago

James Brooke
Real Madrid would be willing to spend massive money on bringing Liverpool’s Trent Alexander-Arnold to Spain.
That’s according to Peterborough United chairman, and Liverpool fan, Darragh MacAnthony. Speaking on his The Hard Truth podcast, MacAnthony made the claim whilst assessing England’s squad ahead of the World Cup.
“That England team could be as good as any team. Forget about the deficiencies at the back,” the Irishman said. “They can still name a John Stones, who is a £60 million player, Harry Maguire, forget the form, he’s an £80 million player. Trent Alexander-Arnold – Real Madrid would pay £150 million for him tomorrow.
“The only area I’m not confident is about is left-back, but you could play Trippier over there and he’s playing great for Newcastle.”
They’d have to double it before Liverpool even thought about coming to the table.
Alexander-Arnold going nowhere

Although MacAnthony’s thought is a hypothetical one, it’s interesting to dig deeper into it.

Of course, there’s no suggestion that Liverpool are looking to part ways with Trent. Right now, it could be assumed that the 24-year-old is gearing up to be a one-club man.
Certainly, it’s hard to see a scenario where the boyhood Reds fan would be looking to leave his hometown.
But, you never know in football. If Liverpool drop off from the heights they’ve recently been reaching, then maybe Alexander-Arnold would get itchy feet.
In which case, surely the only option would be a move abroad.
Liverpool players have ‘betrayed’ the fanbase before by joining high-profile rivals in England, sure. But with a local lad at the top of his game, it would be a whole new kettle of fish.
Steven Gerrard almost did it, and his relationship with his devoted supporters took some repairing. Thankfully, he was able to mend the hurt he caused Reds fans by almost joining Chelsea. Had he jumped ship in 2005 though, he’d have struggled to make it back to the city without a security escort.
Hopefully Trent doesn’t entertain a similar exit. But he shouldn’t be kept prisoner if he ever did want to go either. If that situation ever became a reality, you could bet that the big boys from across the continent would be willing and ready to break the bank on him. He’s just that good.



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Checks fixtures… and it all makes sense.
 
King Binny said:
Danilo from Palmeiras.

I can't really see us signing a player (for 1st team) direct from Brasileiro Serie A - unless there's a change in approach (which I had hoped for, when Taffarel joined our coaching staff).
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We need to cut out the middleman— far too often we exit for players to play in Europe and then pay a premium for them.
 
Donavan Ried said:
Took me a while to decide how I felt about this...
If true we should sell.. Defence wise he is average,lazy and mistake prone. The only saving grace is the passes that he picks out...

If the £150m that Real would pay for him meant that they could no longer afford Jude and he would sign for us it would be worth it.

Selling the Ox and Keita plus left over money from £150m would also help get Rice.

Take the money
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We couldn't sell Ox when he was in contract, he is out of contract in the summer. You'd have to be monumentally stupid to put bids in for Naby or Ox. Mind you saying that, we got an injured MF with a history of being injured constantly to help relieve an injury problem we were having in MF. And as probability would have it, the prick got injured again. That was a fucking stupid move
 
Red Bird said:
We need to cut out the middleman— far too often we exit for players to play in Europe and then pay a premium for them.
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Yes - it’s a good job the UK government is a lot more supportive of immigration than their European counterparts.
 
Red Bird said:
Well, when I see a Caicedo or Bissouma ending up at Brighton, for example, I wonder about that.
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Bissouma was signed from a French team and was a full international by the time he was signed - he got his first caps while at Lille.

I’d say Brighton couldn’t have signed him at the time Lille did - he wouldn’t have been given a permit.

Caciedo was already a full international when he signed, but I wonder if there was a reason why he was loaned to a Belgian club initially.

If a young player is considered of a high enough standard or they play regularly for their country then they can get a permit - but it’s certainly not as relaxed as French & Portuguese rules for Africa & S America.
 
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