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It seems everybody is excited by our front 3..

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Looks a very interesting prospect. Heard PSG have already had a bid of 10 mill rejected. Is that true?
 
Yeah. It's inevitable it seems.

I'm torn cos I love the way he plays, at his best, he's an incredible striker.

However despite him working his nuts off when he does play, he doesn't improve the team as much as Firmino does when he plays, yet isn't scoring the goals that would make you overlook that.

Then you watch us with our usual frontline & see us miss chance after chance that you KNOW a striker would finish at least every other time & wonder again why he's not playing.

A top class striker who can work his bollocks off & also score those goals would be ideal. That lad with the buck teeth at Real Madrid would do nicely.

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Hahaha. I keep doing this. That would be Barca.

I've been surviving on a couple of hours sleep a night thanks to kids getting the norovirus one by one, it seems to be effecting my ability to do anything coherently.
 
It's hard to figure out from afar exactly what the deal is with this whole Sturridge situation. He looks a far cry from the player that would come back and look pretty good for a game or two before getting injured again nevermind the player that looked so effortlessly great for those first 12-18 months.

And that's the most bewildering part. The thing that always stood out for me with Sturridge wasn't the goals but the effortlessness of his game. His first touch, perfect. Control, perfect. Time on the ball, not a problem, defenders were made to wait whilst he decided what he wanted to do. It's very rare to see someone able to play on his own terms like that.

In the past when he came back after a long lay off he'd still look the same player. Now it's like he's lost his mojo. He looks unsure of himself and the immaculate first touch and control he used to have seem to have deserted him.

The question of whether it's gone for good is probably in a large part dependent on his physical condition.

If he's lost his acceleration / pace and that's feeding into his overall mindset, I'd be inclined to say that he's done and the decision to let him go becomes easier. If that's not the case then obviously it presents more of a dilemma.

Either way, it's looking increasingly like we won't end up finding out on Liverpool's dime because Klopp seems pretty unwilling to bet the teams success on Sturridges.

I've been ruminating on exactly this for a few months now. And am in agreement.

It does feel rather depressing though, that we are now measuring Sturridge's value as a striker based on the number of tackles he makes. IT's fucking GOALS that count.
 
We need to sell him and use the money to buy a Tevez/Suarez sort of striker. Who that is I don't know.
 
Studge not only looks to have lost the yard of pace but his general play looks slow and laboured.

In the few games he has played in, he has missed some easy ish chances. Needs a few goals to get his confidence up asap
 
Looks a very interesting prospect. Heard PSG have already had a bid of 10 mill rejected. Is that true?
Not sure, but the papers in Sweden are saying that we seem to be the only ones who have made a concrete offer.
Klopp has not promised first team football. He will train with the first team but play with the reserves. Dunno if that's a good enough offer.
 
Not sure, but the papers in Sweden are saying that we seem to be the only ones who have made a concrete offer.
Klopp has not promised first team football. He will train with the first team but play with the reserves. Dunno if that's a good enough offer.

90 scouts .. including madrid, bayern, manure, chelsea ... come on dude, we have no shot here ... it's like that norwegian starlet odegaard
 
90 scouts .. including madrid, bayern, manure, chelsea ... come on dude, we have no shot here ... it's like that norwegian starlet odegaard
No it doesnt look likely, personally I don't want him to join us. He needs to play.
I think he should join a Dutch or Danish team for his own development.
 
Yeh it's not looking good for Daniel at the moment, but I haven't given up hope yet. If we could find a way of integrating him into the current system and style of play, he'd score a hatful. The skill is still there, with less explosiveness, sadly. Can't see him usurping Firmino though, who's just a superb player and probably the first name on the team sheet at the moment.

My bet would be that's pretty much how Klopp sees it. He's clearly not convinced about the Studge's ability to fit into his preferred style, but I get the impression he's also a bit nervous about letting a player with so much ability leave, so he wants to make darn sure he's tried every last thing he can think of to make things work. They may not ultimately do so, but I don't think there'll be a parting of the ways any time this season.
 
My bet would be that's pretty much how Klopp sees it. He's clearly not convinced about the Studge's ability to fit into his preferred style, but I get the impression he's also a bit nervous about letting a player with so much ability leave, so he wants to make darn sure he's tried every last thing he can think of to make things work. They may not ultimately do so, but I don't think there'll be a parting of the ways any time this season.
I could see Sturridge going to Arsenal, there were reports of a rejected bid in the summer, and burning it up for them
 
I could see Sturridge going to Arsenal, there were reports of a rejected bid in the summer, and burning it up for them

Yeah, I don't doubt he will have plenty of clubs interested.

And I'd be more worried and angry about that possibility if it wasn't for that nagging doubt that it isn't just Klopp's system or his workrate or whatever, but that he isn't capable of the acceleration and movement and top speed of his peak Liverpool years

If that is the case, see you later
 
I get the feeling Sturridge might have had the chance to leave on deadline day and it didnt fall into place like he hoped.....

He's now just biding time until he gets a move in January I reckon. Maybe we were trying to get someone in as a replacement and it didnt come to fruition?
 
I don't think any striker has every left us and done very well elsewhere......so Sturridge better be careful.
 
Will Arsenal be interested now? I'm not so sure. Probably depends on how he performs for the rest of the season. If a new manager comes in after Wenger aswell that may all change.
Can see him joining West Ham for 30 mill. They seem to be our go to team.
 
If Sturridge keeps playong well in cup games, we progress in both cups & are doing well in the league, I think all parties may decide to give it til the end of the season.

Sturridge will know should we have an injury or two that his cup form will give him a shot at coming in an taking a first team place, & that will mean a couple of chances at silverware.

Klopp will be reluctant to let him go in scoring form to a rival for selfish reasons, & also cos he could do an able job as a replacement.

Of course should someone offer silly money in January that may all go out the window, but hopefully it means sturridge may well get a another real chance at proving himself in the first team under klopp.
 
Yeah, he'll at least stay until the end of the season. Hope he plays well and stays beyond that as he's a quality striker.
 
I think he's got a year left on his big contract at the end of the season? I dont think theres any way Klopp lets him leave in Jan, but I'd be very very surprised to see him get another big 4-5yr contract in the summer if he is in his final year.
 
I know what you mean, but I'd be less surprised than you. Even if by then Klopp has made his mind up to sell, we'll still need to get the Studge to sign a new deal - if we can - in order to safeguard the fee we can charge for him.
 
I know what you mean, but I'd be less surprised than you. Even if by then Klopp has made his mind up to sell, we'll still need to get the Studge to sign a new deal - if we can - in order to safeguard the fee we can charge for him.
We could still sell him for 10-15m with a year left.
Selling him for 25m for example, after a brand new long term contract would mean a massive payoff to him so I would think it would come out pretty even.
And I'm not sure clubs would offer 25m if they knew he wasn't first choice, together with his injury record.
 
Fair comment, but it'll also depend on what FSG want for him by way of a fee, and IMO they'd make that decision based partly on the impression they want to create (or avoid creating) about LFC in the football world in general. Given the way they've approached such things up till now, they may decide not to sell at all if their idea of the right fee isn't met. These people will not be railroaded whether by players, agents or other clubs.
 
I know what you mean, but I'd be less surprised than you. Even if by then Klopp has made his mind up to sell, we'll still need to get the Studge to sign a new deal - if we can - in order to safeguard the fee we can charge for him.

It's a risky one, if we give him a new contract, payrise, couple of mill signing on fee, and then he gets broken as usual? -We're left to clear up the mess. Look what's happening with Andy Carroll. And you can still get decent money for top level strikers with a year left, didn't Utd pay about 25mill for robin the rapist? He's 27 now so really this next contract is his last big one, and he'd be looking at it being the pinnacle of his career, surely he'd not be keen to re-sign and sit on our bench? Unless he's a true mercenary.
He is an elite level striker when fit, and in the right system, unfortunately that's not our system and he's rarely fit for any length of time, surely we'd be able to offload him for big bucks in order to get someone more suitable in.

In an ideal world, he'd sort his fitness out, and suddenly start playing like Firmino but with his skill, and then sign a new 5yr contract.
 
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