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I think the mancs and arsenal will be in top 4. Who else will make up top 4?


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Yeah, that was the clincher for me too.

In some ways it was as disappointing as Blackpool.

I know that sounds ridiculous; but against Blackpool we were just rubbish. You looked at the team and thought 'my God we're shit'.

Against Wigan, we got our hopes up but were just reminded that 'my God you're not good enough'.

It's better than shit; but it was a bit sad to get your hopes up and then get them dashed again.

Still, things are much much better now and I don't want to think about the Roy era anymore.

Being sad about finishing 5th or 6th is a lot better than being sad about finishing 20th.
 
Likely it isn't but ... A couple of bad results is all it takes from one of those above us to put us back in with a shout and their are a dozen or so games remaining, I do not expect us to do it but it could happen. What must happen regardless of what our opponents are up to is that we get on a good winning streak, firstly it's good practice and secondly it might just give us a chance of fourth. I haven't given up all hope of it yet.
 
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Yeah, that was the clincher for me too.

In some ways it was as disappointing as Blackpool.

I know that sounds ridiculous; but against Blackpool we were just rubbish. You looked at the team and thought 'my God we're shit'.

Against Wigan, we got our hopes up but were just reminded that 'my God you're not good enough'.

It's better than shit; but it was a bit sad to get your hopes up and then get them dashed again.

Still, things are much much better now and I don't want to think about the Roy era anymore.

Being sad about finishing 5th or 6th is a lot better than being sad about finishing 20th.
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You'd be a happier person if you followed the teachings of Master Hodgson.
The path to eternal bliss is lowering your expectations.
 
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[quote author=Tinto link=topic=44243.msg1286088#msg1286088 date=1297849034]
What a minute?! I thought our squad was too rubbish to win a Champions League place!

As some are allowing themselves to contemplate it, maybe our squad isn't sooo bad afterall. I can't believe after the first Merseyside derby that there was a discussion on MOTD2 about whether Everton (Everton!) had a better squad than us. I guess changing evidence changes minds.

I think we're very capable of beating any of the teams above us but we've made our charge too late... we could maybe catch Chelsea, though, as they seem to have the most problems of the sides above us, but I think that's it.
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OUr squad isnt as rubbish as Hodgson thought it was,but it's also not as good as you think it is.

We probably have the 5th or 6th best squad in the Premiership, and that's probably where we'll end up.
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I think we probably do have the 6th best squad in the league - maybe not even that if we take off some of the tints on our specs. However, I genuinely think our first 11 places much higher in the league rankings - and not sure if people take that into consideration. Kenny is doing exactly what many of us predicted would happen with a new manager half way through last season; get them playing football and there's talent in this team.

I admit after Roy's efforts I concluded we were wrong in our assesment that the players had gotten stale under Rafa's overbearing, intensive game plans. I even posted some months ago that the talent really is missing because a fresh start under a new manager had done nothing to freshen them up; they looked jaded and poor.

Kenny, however, has done exactly what we thought a new manager would do; they look fresh, positive and willing to play.

In Reina we've got as good a keeper as anyone in the league.

Kelly, Carragher, Agger, Magic and Skrtel; with the exception of Vidic / Rio that's potentially as strong a backline as any one in the league.

Gerrard, Raul, Kuyt, Cole, Lucas. We need Stevie and Raul to play well but, even so, those players are capable of mixing it with anyone in this country; they certainly did with Chelsea.

Suarez and Carroll. I know they're unproven but there's nobody in England looking forward to trying to contain these two.


When we start getting into the backup then it is, certainly, a different story so for me the key is injury and the King keeping his top 11 fit and focused. I think this lineup is good enough to go on an extended run; March will be the key month.
 
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[quote author=Avvy link=topic=44243.msg1286194#msg1286194 date=1297860239]
Yeah, that was the clincher for me too.

In some ways it was as disappointing as Blackpool.

I know that sounds ridiculous; but against Blackpool we were just rubbish. You looked at the team and thought 'my God we're shit'.

Against Wigan, we got our hopes up but were just reminded that 'my God you're not good enough'.

It's better than shit; but it was a bit sad to get your hopes up and then get them dashed again.

Still, things are much much better now and I don't want to think about the Roy era anymore.

Being sad about finishing 5th or 6th is a lot better than being sad about finishing 20th.
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You'd be a happier person if you followed the teachings of Master Hodgson.
The path to eternal bliss is lowering your expectations.
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That's the other alternative.
 
In one month we've gone from being in a relegation dog-fight to the fringes of the Champions League positions. We're only 2 wins behind the 4th & 5th best team and one of them we have to play at home. It's an outside chance at this stage, but we're still in it. There's almost 1/3 of the season left to play.
 
If we keep up our recent form we've got a fair chance, but we will have to win some massive games.

I think we'll finish 5th or 6th, which is a fair placement for the talent of our squad. Anything else represents gross over-achievement.
 
It's a long shot needing 2 teams to drop alot of points while we keep winning pretty much every week. The Wigan result was a twat. I think Chelsea will make sure they win the champions league by hook or by crook.
 
Well I've got to admit I'm amazed at how many people think City are nailed on for top 4. I think they're basically one point above Chelsea in 5th yet seemingly everyone thinks 4th is between Spurs and Chelsea.
 
Agreed. I suspect the profusion of big names in that squad has something to do with it, but I wouldn't be particularly surprised if they're the ones who miss out.
 
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Well I've got to admit I'm amazed at how many people think City are nailed on for top 4. I think they're basically one point above Chelsea in 5th yet seemingly everyone thinks 4th is between Spurs and Chelsea.



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Their main aim this season is top 4. Chelsea and Spurs are both trying to win the CL, as are United and Arsenal. I think that gives City a significant advantage in the PL. Plus their squad is so deep that injuries and suspensions can't affect them. I'd be amazed if they didn't qualify.
 
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[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=44243.msg1286504#msg1286504 date=1297932214]
Well I've got to admit I'm amazed at how many people think City are nailed on for top 4. I think they're basically one point above Chelsea in 5th yet seemingly everyone thinks 4th is between Spurs and Chelsea.



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Their main aim this season is top 4. Chelsea and Spurs are both trying to win the CL, as are United and Arsenal. I think that gives City a significant advantage in the PL. Plus their squad is so deep that injuries and suspensions can't affect them. I'd be amazed if they didn't qualify.
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Prepare to be amazed, Bunny! :-X
 
The gap is too big to make the top 4 even with City and Spurs yet to come to Anfield. 6th would be decent after Hodgson's attempts at relegating us.
 
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