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In six months, the Benitez era will seem like a golden age

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[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=40155.msg1101951#msg1101951 date=1273421847]
TBF i wasn't sure when carew arrived so thats me told.

I can understand the arguement for lack of investment, but thats always the point people focus on. We may have had to sell, but no one forced him to buy the players he did, which i class as a worse crime than not getting players we needed
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The lack of finances have forced his buys... He has tried to buy the best he can with the money he has had, and when your trying to fill several holes, you have to be thrifty....

If say in 07, he was given say 20 mil plus money from sales then his buys would have been different, but when your given say 4 mil plus sales, then your options are severely limited...

Not to mention you can only sell the players that are actually performing...

Do you honestly think that Voronin & Degen were actually players Rafa wanted??? No, he was forced into them because they were free, and he felt he needed to put the little bit of money he had elsewhere in the team...
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He paid 20 million quid for a crocked midfielder who he then chose not to use until the last few games of the season so you can stick your "lack of finances" up yer hoop.
 
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[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=40155.msg1101951#msg1101951 date=1273421847]
TBF i wasn't sure when carew arrived so thats me told.

I can understand the arguement for lack of investment, but thats always the point people focus on. We may have had to sell, but no one forced him to buy the players he did, which i class as a worse crime than not getting players we needed
[/quote]

The lack of finances have forced his buys... He has tried to buy the best he can with the money he has had, and when your trying to fill several holes, you have to be thrifty....

If say in 07, he was given say 20 mil plus money from sales then his buys would have been different, but when your given say 4 mil plus sales, then your options are severely limited...

Not to mention you can only sell the players that are actually performing...

Do you honestly think that Voronin & Degen were actually players Rafa wanted??? No, he was forced into them because they were free, and he felt he needed to put the little bit of money he had elsewhere in the team...
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i'm saying in recent windows he's been poor, wasting lots of money on poor players. I wouldn't trust him with investment after them. Keane, 20 mil wasted, a luxury player like johnson when we could've have bought niko kranjcar for 1.5 mill and another right back for 5 mil. Leaving 10 mil to spend on a back up striker. There is a lack of logic in some purchases which i begrudge. i realise he gets little help from the board, however blaming them when hes needlessly bought some players is the issue.

btw i want the owners gone as much as i want benitez gone, however sayin its the owners fault entirely is the issue i have
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Parry bought Keano even tho he was told by Rafa not to until Barry had been signed...
GJ was bought because we only had to give pompey 5 mil because they owed us money for Crouch...

Rafa is doing what he can, it just so happens he cannot do very much with his hands tied....

And I never said Rafa did not have his faults...

Oh, and Aqua will only cost us 20 mil if all the bonus clauses are met.... Rafa is not a doctor, and he was told that Aqua would be ready to go by the end of Sept... Since he has gotten fit, he defo should have played more....
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40155.msg1101995#msg1101995 date=1273423246]
The Positive One is, amazingly, even more irritating than O'Tomkins and Rafapm


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[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=40155.msg1101951#msg1101951 date=1273421847]
TBF i wasn't sure when carew arrived so thats me told.

I can understand the arguement for lack of investment, but thats always the point people focus on. We may have had to sell, but no one forced him to buy the players he did, which i class as a worse crime than not getting players we needed
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The lack of finances have forced his buys... He has tried to buy the best he can with the money he has had, and when your trying to fill several holes, you have to be thrifty....

If say in 07, he was given say 20 mil plus money from sales then his buys would have been different, but when your given say 4 mil plus sales, then your options are severely limited...

Not to mention you can only sell the players that are actually performing...

Do you honestly think that Voronin & Degen were actually players Rafa wanted??? No, he was forced into them because they were free, and he felt he needed to put the little bit of money he had elsewhere in the team...
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i'm saying in recent windows he's been poor, wasting lots of money on poor players. I wouldn't trust him with investment after them. Keane, 20 mil wasted, a luxury player like johnson when we could've have bought niko kranjcar for 1.5 mill and another right back for 5 mil. Leaving 10 mil to spend on a back up striker. There is a lack of logic in some purchases which i begrudge. i realise he gets little help from the board, however blaming them when hes needlessly bought some players is the issue.

btw i want the owners gone as much as i want benitez gone, however sayin its the owners fault entirely is the issue i have
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Parry bought Keano even tho he was told by Rafa not to until Barry had been signed...
GJ was bought because we only had to give pompey 5 mil because they owed us money for Crouch...

Rafa is doing what he can, it just so happens he cannot do very much with his hands tied....

And I never said Rafa did not have his faults...

Oh, and Aqua will only cost us 20 mil if all the bonus clauses are met.... Rafa is not a doctor, and he was told that Aqua would be ready to go by the end of Sept... Since he has gotten fit, he defo should have played more....
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parry did not buy keane. Benitez admitted he wanted keane to partner barry. Why on earth would you be in deep contract neogtiations with someone if their transfer depended on ANOTHER player arriving. That is stupid. You buy players on their own merit, not this made up perceived ability to work with a player who you've never seen them play with before! And aqua, fair enough he's cost us 5 mil or whatever thus far. he didn't play for half the season! We could've bought fucking cana or cattermole and they would've had the same impact!

and glenjo, you are right about them owing money to us, however we could've got kranjcar and some more money back. Hell, we could've got johnson AND kranjcar if we felt like negotiating a bit more
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40155.msg1101995#msg1101995 date=1273423246]
The Positive One is, amazingly, even more irritating than O'Tomkins and Rafapm


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Just wait until he starts responding with only smilie faces...
 
I'm guessing this has already been said, but that is in no way a balanced article.

Tompkins must have creamed his pants when he read that - Rafa, the suffering Liverpool martyr. For fucks sake.
 
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[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=40155.msg1101951#msg1101951 date=1273421847]
TBF i wasn't sure when carew arrived so thats me told.

I can understand the arguement for lack of investment, but thats always the point people focus on. We may have had to sell, but no one forced him to buy the players he did, which i class as a worse crime than not getting players we needed
[/quote]

The lack of finances have forced his buys... He has tried to buy the best he can with the money he has had, and when your trying to fill several holes, you have to be thrifty....

If say in 07, he was given say 20 mil plus money from sales then his buys would have been different, but when your given say 4 mil plus sales, then your options are severely limited...

Not to mention you can only sell the players that are actually performing...

Do you honestly think that Voronin & Degen were actually players Rafa wanted??? No, he was forced into them because they were free, and he felt he needed to put the little bit of money he had elsewhere in the team...
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i'm saying in recent windows he's been poor, wasting lots of money on poor players. I wouldn't trust him with investment after them. Keane, 20 mil wasted, a luxury player like johnson when we could've have bought niko kranjcar for 1.5 mill and another right back for 5 mil. Leaving 10 mil to spend on a back up striker. There is a lack of logic in some purchases which i begrudge. i realise he gets little help from the board, however blaming them when hes needlessly bought some players is the issue.

btw i want the owners gone as much as i want benitez gone, however sayin its the owners fault entirely is the issue i have
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Parry bought Keano even tho he was told by Rafa not to until Barry had been signed...
GJ was bought because we only had to give pompey 5 mil because they owed us money for Crouch...

Rafa is doing what he can, it just so happens he cannot do very much with his hands tied....

And I never said Rafa did not have his faults...

Oh, and Aqua will only cost us 20 mil if all the bonus clauses are met.... Rafa is not a doctor, and he was told that Aqua would be ready to go by the end of Sept... Since he has gotten fit, he defo should have played more....
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parry did not buy keane. Benitez admitted he wanted keane to partner barry. Why on earth would you be in deep contract neogtiations with someone if their transfer depended on ANOTHER player arriving. That is stupid. You buy players on their own merit, not this made up perceived ability to work with a player who you've never seen them play with before! And aqua, fair enough he's cost us 5 mil or whatever thus far. he didn't play for half the season! We could've bought fucking cana or cattermole and they would've had the same impact!

and glenjo, you are right about them owing money to us, however we could've got kranjcar and some more money back. Hell, we could've got johnson AND kranjcar if we felt like negotiating a bit more
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I personally was happy when Keano arrived, although he missed way to many chances for me....
I'm not gonna argue about who we should have bought vs who we have bought cause that is all relative...

Rafa has made mistakes, and will probably make more.... I just think he is working under horrible conditions and those are tainting him...

Whaddapie..... Hmmm.... You know me????
 
everyone missed out on kranjcar, not just benitez, plus i doubt it's merely a coincidence that he was signed by redknapp, his old boss at pompey.
 
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[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=40155.msg1101951#msg1101951 date=1273421847]
TBF i wasn't sure when carew arrived so thats me told.

I can understand the arguement for lack of investment, but thats always the point people focus on. We may have had to sell, but no one forced him to buy the players he did, which i class as a worse crime than not getting players we needed
[/quote]

The lack of finances have forced his buys... He has tried to buy the best he can with the money he has had, and when your trying to fill several holes, you have to be thrifty....

If say in 07, he was given say 20 mil plus money from sales then his buys would have been different, but when your given say 4 mil plus sales, then your options are severely limited...

Not to mention you can only sell the players that are actually performing...

Do you honestly think that Voronin & Degen were actually players Rafa wanted??? No, he was forced into them because they were free, and he felt he needed to put the little bit of money he had elsewhere in the team...
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i'm saying in recent windows he's been poor, wasting lots of money on poor players. I wouldn't trust him with investment after them. Keane, 20 mil wasted, a luxury player like johnson when we could've have bought niko kranjcar for 1.5 mill and another right back for 5 mil. Leaving 10 mil to spend on a back up striker. There is a lack of logic in some purchases which i begrudge. i realise he gets little help from the board, however blaming them when hes needlessly bought some players is the issue.

btw i want the owners gone as much as i want benitez gone, however sayin its the owners fault entirely is the issue i have
[/quote]

Parry bought Keano even tho he was told by Rafa not to until Barry had been signed...
GJ was bought because we only had to give pompey 5 mil because they owed us money for Crouch...

Rafa is doing what he can, it just so happens he cannot do very much with his hands tied....

And I never said Rafa did not have his faults...

Oh, and Aqua will only cost us 20 mil if all the bonus clauses are met.... Rafa is not a doctor, and he was told that Aqua would be ready to go by the end of Sept... Since he has gotten fit, he defo should have played more....
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parry did not buy keane. Benitez admitted he wanted keane to partner barry. Why on earth would you be in deep contract neogtiations with someone if their transfer depended on ANOTHER player arriving. That is stupid. You buy players on their own merit, not this made up perceived ability to work with a player who you've never seen them play with before! And aqua, fair enough he's cost us 5 mil or whatever thus far. he didn't play for half the season! We could've bought fucking cana or cattermole and they would've had the same impact!

and glenjo, you are right about them owing money to us, however we could've got kranjcar and some more money back. Hell, we could've got johnson AND kranjcar if we felt like negotiating a bit more
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I personally was happy when Keano arrived, although he missed way to many chances for me....
I'm not gonna argue about who we should have bought vs who we have bought cause that is all relative...

Rafa has made mistakes, and will probably make more.... I just think he is working under horrible conditions and those are tainting him...

Whaddapie..... Hmmm.... You know me????
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fair enough TPO
 
I don't see much changing next season.
chelsea will spend and even if they don't they already have a strong squad.
manu will spend and even if they don't they already have a strong squad.
spurs will spend, especially boosted by CL money.
city will spend to force their way into the top four.

we're fucked unless something happens in regards to investment unless all our bosmans turn out to be brilliant.
 
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[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40155.msg1101935#msg1101935 date=1273421025]
I think the negative reaction against this article fails to take into account he is right about lots of things, and particularly, that the media have pecked incessantly at Rafa from day one, and have been wrong about most things. The article goes wrong in saying that Rafa was 'forced' to gamble on Aqua- he wasn't, and he also paid out 17m for a fullback. He was fully conscious that we were entering this season with only one proper senior centre forward in the squad, despite the fact that the player had had injury problems. So whilst this ignores Rafas faults, it does make some good points, and it may well be that we regret letting Rafa go. I certainly wouldn't swap him for MON or Hodgson much as I think it is right he now goes.
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i think the most perceptive part of the article is the idea that rafa, and the team in general, has been gradually worn down by the poisonous atmosphere created by the ownership problems. because it's impossible to prove there's no point raising it on here, because the benitez haters would laugh it off, but i think it's a very real problem. there's no doubt in my mind that he's been working under horrible conditions, and equally that they were bound to take their toll in the end.
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I'd be willing to bet that a good chunk of people will say that Rafa is responsible for the atmosphere given his constant quits to threat, his manipulation of the media an fans to get his way, his use of the players to get Parry sacked etc etc.
 
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[quote author=Fabio Alrighty-o link=topic=40155.msg1101887#msg1101887 date=1273418948]
I detest the net spend argument. But if we look at the players bought, the amount we have WASTED speaks volumes.
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I agree with the net spend argument, but it still shows a serious imbalance...

My argument is that we have to buy to sell... When your forced into this, you have to sell your half decent players to earn money to try to buy better players... the economics are not really there...

If H&G had given up money instead of Rafa having to generate it himself, then we'd have a much deeper squad, and that is our problem... no squad depth....
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we may have to sell to buy, but the quality of players villa bought compared to us is the difference. We sold a dependable right back and bought a liability, sold a midfield maestro and bought potential, bought and sold a striker who didn't fit. We haven't bought a solid player for years, while villa have bought milner, carew, downing (who now appears every inch a premier league standard left winger), dunne etc, all of which have had solid seasons and are premier league proven.
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GJ is not a liability...
Xabi wanted to go...
Crouch turned down a contract for a better one at pompey...

Bellamy was sold to fund FT...

Of the players mentioned above I would have bought only Milner...
Downing was injured, and is not that good...
Carew has been there since 06, we had Crouch, Bellamy, Kuyt & Fowler that season
We do not need Dunne, with Skrtel, Agger, & Carra (not to mention he cost alot more than the Greek!!!)

and if you add up their costs, then you will see why we got who we have...

Oh, and we probably would have bought another player or 2 had we not have had to service the debt last summer....
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Ahem.............
Xabi only wanted to go as Rafa had tried whoring him around Europe to try and fund Barry the previous season, some people do have principles.
Crouch did not go simply because "Spurs offered him a better contract", he just wanted a fair crack of the whip and not to be third choice behind fucking Dirk and Voronin....... some people do have principles. The irony of Crouch scoring the goal that saw Spurs take fourth might have been lost on some.


regards
 
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Ahem.............
Xabi only wanted to go as Rafa had tried whoring him around Europe to try and fund Barry the previous season, some people do have principles.
Crouch did not go simply because "Spurs offered him a better contract", he just wanted a fair crack of the whip and not to be third choice behind fucking Dirk and Voronin....... some people do have principles. The irony of Crouch scoring the goal that saw Spurs take fourth might have been lost on some.


regards


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Rafa wanted to sell Xabi after 2 lack luster seasons, and alot of people agreed at the time... I did not...
Rafa, FT, & SG asked Xabi to stay, but when Real came calling his mind was made up, not to mention his family wanted to go home...

Crouch was not 3rd choice behind Dirk & Voronin, he was 2nd choice, and wanted to be first choice...
Crouch also could have showed Rafa some loyalty considering Rafa showed him some for 19 games before he scored his first goal for us...

Ironic isn't it...
 
Even the "fairly balanced" article you posted disagrees with you on Alonso.

Crouch wanted games, the money thing was something thrown into the mix by Rafa in recent weeks.
 
Oh, I'm not saying Xabi was not hurt by being sold, I'm sure he was...

Look, I'm not here to argue about or defend Rafa...

Some want him here, some do....

I just hope that it is sorted one way or the other, so we can start next season running....
 
[quote author=The_Positive_One link=topic=40155.msg1102394#msg1102394 date=1273481663]
Oh, I'm not saying Xabi was not hurt by being sold, I'm sure he was...

Look, I'm not here to argue about or defend Rafa...

Some want him here, some do....

I just hope that it is sorted one way or the other, so we can start next season running....
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Oh really, but I think you are.
Nearly every one of your posts is about defending Rafa and/or placing the blame entirely at the feet of Hicks and Gillett
That's fine, but don't start trying to say it's not your agenda




regards
 
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Oh, I'm not saying Xabi was not hurt by being sold, I'm sure he was...

Look, I'm not here to argue about or defend Rafa...

Some want him here, some do....

I just hope that it is sorted one way or the other, so we can start next season running....
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Oh really, but I think you are.
Nearly every one of your posts is about defending Rafa and/or placing the blame entirely at the feet of Hicks and Gillett
That's fine, but don't start trying to say it's not your agenda




regards
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I have no agenda...

I think Rafa is a good manager that's all...

I think if H & G were not here, we would not be in the shat we are...

If you disagree fine...
 
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Oh, I'm not saying Xabi was not hurt by being sold, I'm sure he was...

Look, I'm not here to argue about or defend Rafa...

Some want him here, some do....

I just hope that it is sorted one way or the other, so we can start next season running....
[/quote]

Oh really, but I think you are.
Nearly every one of your posts is about defending Rafa and/or placing the blame entirely at the feet of Hicks and Gillett
That's fine, but don't start trying to say it's not your agenda




regards
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I have no agenda...

I think Rafa is a good manager that's all...

I think if H & G were not here, we would not be in the shat we are...

If you disagree fine...
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So you are here to argue and defend Rafa?

Fine


regards
 
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Oh, I'm not saying Xabi was not hurt by being sold, I'm sure he was...

Look, I'm not here to argue about or defend Rafa...

Some want him here, some do....

I just hope that it is sorted one way or the other, so we can start next season running....
[/quote]

Oh really, but I think you are.
Nearly every one of your posts is about defending Rafa and/or placing the blame entirely at the feet of Hicks and Gillett
That's fine, but don't start trying to say it's not your agenda




regards
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I have no agenda...

I think Rafa is a good manager that's all...

I think if H & G were not here, we would not be in the shat we are...

If you disagree fine...
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Why do you say that?

Because we'd have another owner giving Rafa another eleventy billion that he wouldnt piss away on players that were either shit/broken/played in any position but their own?
 
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So when they chant his name or send an email, they are not displaying blind devotion. They are acknowledging the complications of managing a club that has no future until things change and recognising that Benitez has, imperfectly, managed until this season somehow to keep Liverpool competitive.[/quote]

So we should somehow be thankful that we've managed to stay competitive?

I don't fucking think so. This entire paragraph is the biggest load of condescending fucking shite I've had the misfortune to read. If they want to show their support in this fashion, then that's up to them, but to portray it as anything less than desperate, blind faith is utter tosh. Rafa's tenure here has become questionable at the very least, and way past its sell by date for many people - rightly so in my opinion. But to try and make out like Rafa has somehow endured these trials and tribulations and should be lauded for 'keeping us competitive' when he's been sanctioned to buy one of the best forwards in the world, one of the best defensive midfielders in the world, and inherited Stevie G and Carra is just laughable really. 'Competitive' is a fucking minimum requirement and whatever shit has gone on behind the scenes does not excuse the pitiful performances, bizarre decisions and same stupid mistakes again and again that we've seen too many times.

It's as 'complicated' as this: you play your best team all the time and play to win. Regardless of all of the off-field shenanigans, which I accept will have some detrimental effect on things, there are some things which cannot be justified or excused by pointing the finger at the owners. Picking the team, picking the tactics, and forgetting to buy any sort of viable back-up for crucial positions fall under that umbrella.

Supporting Rafa through thick and thin, whatever the results and whatever the consequences is blind devotion, whatever way you want to paint it. You only support the manager as long as it's not to the detriment of the club, and I think that line's been crossed. All this superfan nonsense that casts Rafa in the role of suffering martyr to the cause is just a load of bollocks - he's got just as much to answer for as the owners - not more, but not less either - and perpetrating this myth of infallibility or at least reduced responsibility is just trying to shift the blame onto the convenient scapegoat of the owners and the way the club has been run as a whole.

I'm sorry, but it just doesn't wash.

They were wrong about everything: wrong about his transfer record, wrong about rotation, wrong about how often he rested Torres.

Is that so?

Well then where's the fucking proof?

Oh, that's right, I'm sorry, we made the Top 4 every season, woopdefuckingdoo.

Oh, except this season that is.

They would have been wrong if we'd actually gone on and fucking won the league, except we didn't - all we can point to is 'strong finishes', his transfer record doesn't stand up to scrutiny and Torres gets injured anyway, so . . .

Just as his success masked the dysfunction of the regime he was employed by, his failures have hidden them too. Benitez took on Hicks and Gillett and paid the price: not the loss of his job but the loss of his vision of what the team should be. Like all obsessives, he is always at risk of losing touch with reality.

Errr . . . masked the dysfunction of the regime? What, the soap opera that's been played out in the press on a weekly basis? The one that's been plastered across the back pages again and again in a brutal fashion and that he's played a massive part in, taking regular snipes at the owners, the staff and so on?

Yeah right, the only dysfunction his success has masked has been his own, and from the outset his vision of what the team should be has been seemingly as mystifying to him as it has been to us, as we've gone through player after player that either doesn't fit in with the style of play or his style of management. How often has he been accused of not knowing what his best team is - and lazy unimaginative punditry though it may have been, that doesn't mean it's not been true. The only time it really seemed to settle in five years was last season, and even then there were still questions to be asked as he bought Robbie Keane for a position that Steven Gerrard was already excelling at.

Has he ever had a touch on reality? Too many times the blindingly obvious has seemingly sailed past unnoticed and unheeded as he sticks to his rigidly imposed regime of "I'm right, the world can fuck off" - his stubbornness can not be said to be one of his better qualities, and I'm seriously doubtful that it's been a key to his success - if anything it's been symbolic of his failures.

This whole article just fucks me off tbh. Balanced my arse - it pays lip service to the incontrovertible flaws of his reign and tries to pass the buck on the rest of them. The owners have fucked us up, that is not in doubt, but this portrayal of a flawed genius stifled by circumstances is as pathetic as it is inaccurate.

Rafa should not have to shoulder all of the blame, and there have been times where 'heroics' is probably as apt a word as any, but trying to make out the last 5 years have been some kind of Golden Age is insulting, no matter how bad it's gonna get
 
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Dear SingleRider,

hope all is well. How's the family? Everything good?

Y'see, it's just that, erm... The thing is.... I.... ummmm, I... IthinkIloveyou!

Ok, so... WOW! Is that the time?! Gotta run. Glad we had this talk.

See you round,

Whaddapie
 
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