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I recon they could have a real crack at the Top 4, probably at Arsenal's expense.

Their achilles heal was always their shite defence.

I'm beginning to get a bit nervous now, especially as Lumpard seems to be paving the foundations for some kind of surprise.


Seriously, it cannot be long before they buy their way to a title.

I recon had they got Maureen in this summer and given him the same funding as Hughes, they would've done it too.
 
I dunno Ryan. I was with you until Lampard started talking.

Looking at their squad, if they could get Terry, Lescott and a want away Carvallhio, I think they're pretty sorted.
 
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=34830.msg909484#msg909484 date=1248167547]
I dunno Ryan. I was with you until Lampard started talking.

Looking at their squad, if they could get Terry, Lescott and a want away Carvallhio, I think they're pretty sorted.

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I think Terry's just using their interest to get a better contract out of Chelsea.
 
I think they will get 2 out of; Toure, Lescott or Terry. I don't understand why they are not ahead of Arsenal in the betting for the league as a team similar to the one below will challenge. Also, look at the subs bench - they will have wayyy more strength-in-depth than any other contender.

----------------------------------------Given-----------------------------------------

Zabaletta-----------------Terry---------------Lescott-------------------Bridge

---------------Kompany--------------Barry--------------Ireland----------------

----------------------------Tevez--------------Robinho-------------------------
------------------------------------Adebayor--------------------------------------

Subs; De Jong, Santa Cruz, Wright-Phillips, Petrov, Richards, Bellamy, Bojinov, Onouha, Taylor.
 
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=34830.msg909504#msg909504 date=1248168135]
I think they will get 2 out of; Toure, Lescott or Terry. I don't understand why they are not ahead of Arsenal in the betting for the league as a team similar to the one below will challenge. Also, look at the subs bench - they will have wayyy more strength-in-depth than any other contender.

----------------------------------------Given-----------------------------------------

Zabaletta-----------------Terry---------------Lescott-------------------Bridge

---------------Kompany--------------Barry--------------Ireland----------------

----------------------------Tevez--------------Robinho-------------------------
------------------------------------Adebayor--------------------------------------

Subs; De Jong, Santa Cruz, Wright-Phillips, Petrov, Richards, Bellamy, Bojinov, Onouha, Taylor.


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I think SWP will have a place in the starting 11 more often than not Pesam.
 
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=34830.msg909484#msg909484 date=1248167547]
I dunno Ryan. I was with you until Lampard started talking.

Looking at their squad, if they could get Terry, Lescott and a want away Carvallhio, I think they're pretty sorted.

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They still need someone to organise the team well, and so far Hughes has shown little on that score. It's not all been down to the players, alot of it has been down to them looking anything but a unit. I hope they get Lescott and lose out on the others because he's often struggled at centre back, I think Toure is pretty overrated too after a good initial couple of seasons.
 
pretty scary team if they land class defenders. if they do that then the league's only hope is the manager being shit.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=34830.msg909509#msg909509 date=1248168242]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=34830.msg909504#msg909504 date=1248168135]
I think they will get 2 out of; Toure, Lescott or Terry. I don't understand why they are not ahead of Arsenal in the betting for the league as a team similar to the one below will challenge. Also, look at the subs bench - they will have wayyy more strength-in-depth than any other contender.

----------------------------------------Given-----------------------------------------

Zabaletta-----------------Terry---------------Lescott-------------------Bridge

---------------Kompany--------------Barry--------------Ireland----------------

----------------------------Tevez--------------Robinho-------------------------
------------------------------------Adebayor--------------------------------------

Subs; De Jong, Santa Cruz, Wright-Phillips, Petrov, Richards, Bellamy, Bojinov, Onouha, Taylor.


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I think SWP will have a place in the starting 11 more often than not Pesam.
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Probably Ryan but it's difficult to shoe-horn all their attacking talent in to a legitimate lin-up. I reckon Robinho won't be a regular starter in away matches so SWP will fit into a 4 man midfield with Tevez and Adebayor up front.

Hughes will have job keeping everyone happy especially if they don't get off to a flying start.
 
Rumours that they're ready to bring in Beckham this October on a 2 year contract.

That would be a good signing for them - not for footballing reasons but for more strategic reasons to entice more 'star' names.
 
Terry won't leave Chelsea.
Lescott may sign for City, but that won't change anything.

They still need a centre back, right back, central midfielder and a goalkeeper, if they want to break into the top 4.
And even if they spend 50-70 mill on those issues, Hughes has to build a team, which he so far hasn't been able to do.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=34830.msg909556#msg909556 date=1248170444]
Terry won't leave Chelsea.
Lescott may sign for City, but that won't change anything.

They still need a centre back, right back, central midfielder and a goalkeeper, if they want to break into the top 4.
And even if they spend 50-70 mill on those issues, Hughes has to build a team, which he so far hasn't been able to do.

[/quote]




Given is fine.....Scum won 3 leagues in a row with a very average VDS, and Given is better than him.

Zabletta aint too bad.

A Central midfielder like Toure or Diarra would be good business for them.

I would also recommend someone of the ilk of Patrick Viera, another 'name' that could come in useful against some lower league opposition, whilst also making the club a little more attractive.
 
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=34830.msg909568#msg909568 date=1248170826]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=34830.msg909556#msg909556 date=1248170444]
Terry won't leave Chelsea.
Lescott may sign for City, but that won't change anything.

They still need a centre back, right back, central midfielder and a goalkeeper, if they want to break into the top 4.
And even if they spend 50-70 mill on those issues, Hughes has to build a team, which he so far hasn't been able to do.

[/quote]




Given is fine.....Scum won 3 leagues in a row with a very average VDS, and Given is better than him.
Zabletta aint too bad.

A Central midfielder like Toure or Diarra would be good business for them.

I would also recommend someone of the ilk of Patrick Viera, another 'name' that could come in useful against some lower league opposition, whilst also making the club a little more attractive.

[/quote]

Heh, Given is not better than VDS.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=34830.msg909556#msg909556 date=1248170444]
Terry won't leave Chelsea.
Lescott may sign for City, but that won't change anything.

They still need a centre back, right back, central midfielder and a goalkeeper, if they want to break into the top 4.
And even if they spend 50-70 mill on those issues, Hughes has to build a team, which he so far hasn't been able to do.

[/quote]

You don't seem to rate Shay Given which dilutes all your other opinions. In central midfield they have De Jong (a current Dutch international) and Barry (a current England International) with Kompany and Ireland both able to play in the same position so, although they could improve this department, it is a strong enough CM to challenge for a top 4 place.

Your point about turning this eclectic bunch of players into a functioning team capable of maintaining a challenge is your valid point.
 
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=34830.msg909572#msg909572 date=1248171221]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=34830.msg909556#msg909556 date=1248170444]
Terry won't leave Chelsea.
Lescott may sign for City, but that won't change anything.

They still need a centre back, right back, central midfielder and a goalkeeper, if they want to break into the top 4.
And even if they spend 50-70 mill on those issues, Hughes has to build a team, which he so far hasn't been able to do.

[/quote]

You don't seem to rate Shay Given which dilutes all your other opinions. In central midfield they have De Jong (a current Dutch international) and Barry (a current England International) with Kompany and Ireland both able to play in the same position so, although they could improve this department, it is a strong enough CM to challenge for a top 4 place.

Your point about turning this eclectic bunch of players into a functioning team capable of maintaining a challenge is your valid point.
[/quote]

De Jong is very limited, Kompany is a centre back, Ireland is quite good but seems to be better in an offensive role. Barry was very good for Villa and it will be interesting to see how he'll get going for City. I think they need one more midfielder.

Given isn't good enough imho. You may think so, but I don't. He won't win them many games. For a team that wants to challenge for the league, you need better.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=34830.msg909596#msg909596 date=1248172956]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=34830.msg909572#msg909572 date=1248171221]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=34830.msg909556#msg909556 date=1248170444]
Terry won't leave Chelsea.
Lescott may sign for City, but that won't change anything.

They still need a centre back, right back, central midfielder and a goalkeeper, if they want to break into the top 4.
And even if they spend 50-70 mill on those issues, Hughes has to build a team, which he so far hasn't been able to do.

[/quote]

You don't seem to rate Shay Given which dilutes all your other opinions. In central midfield they have De Jong (a current Dutch international) and Barry (a current England International) with Kompany and Ireland both able to play in the same position so, although they could improve this department, it is a strong enough CM to challenge for a top 4 place.

Your point about turning this eclectic bunch of players into a functioning team capable of maintaining a challenge is your valid point.
[/quote]

De Jong is very limited, Kompany is a centre back, Ireland is quite good but seems to be better in an offensive role. Barry was very good for Villa and it will be interesting to see how he'll get going for City. I think they need one more midfielder.

Given isn't good enough imho. You may think so, but I don't. He won't win them many games. For a team that wants to challenge for the league, you need better.

[/quote]

You're entitled to your opinion but you'll find that 99% of people who watch the EPL will disagree with you about Given.
 
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=34830.msg909600#msg909600 date=1248173231]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=34830.msg909596#msg909596 date=1248172956]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=34830.msg909572#msg909572 date=1248171221]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=34830.msg909556#msg909556 date=1248170444]
Terry won't leave Chelsea.
Lescott may sign for City, but that won't change anything.

They still need a centre back, right back, central midfielder and a goalkeeper, if they want to break into the top 4.
And even if they spend 50-70 mill on those issues, Hughes has to build a team, which he so far hasn't been able to do.

[/quote]

You don't seem to rate Shay Given which dilutes all your other opinions. In central midfield they have De Jong (a current Dutch international) and Barry (a current England International) with Kompany and Ireland both able to play in the same position so, although they could improve this department, it is a strong enough CM to challenge for a top 4 place.

Your point about turning this eclectic bunch of players into a functioning team capable of maintaining a challenge is your valid point.
[/quote]

De Jong is very limited, Kompany is a centre back, Ireland is quite good but seems to be better in an offensive role. Barry was very good for Villa and it will be interesting to see how he'll get going for City. I think they need one more midfielder.

Given isn't good enough imho. You may think so, but I don't. He won't win them many games. For a team that wants to challenge for the league, you need better.

[/quote]

You're entitled to your opinion but you'll find that 99% of people who watch the EPL will disagree with you about Given.
[/quote]

Fair enough. I'll eat some humble pie if he does the business for City. But a goalkeeper that recently went 16 months without a clean sheet away from home doesn't fill me with confidence. Even if it was for Newcastle Utd.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=34830.msg909606#msg909606 date=1248173557]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=34830.msg909600#msg909600 date=1248173231]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=34830.msg909596#msg909596 date=1248172956]
[quote author=Pesam link=topic=34830.msg909572#msg909572 date=1248171221]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=34830.msg909556#msg909556 date=1248170444]
Terry won't leave Chelsea.
Lescott may sign for City, but that won't change anything.

They still need a centre back, right back, central midfielder and a goalkeeper, if they want to break into the top 4.
And even if they spend 50-70 mill on those issues, Hughes has to build a team, which he so far hasn't been able to do.

[/quote]

You don't seem to rate Shay Given which dilutes all your other opinions. In central midfield they have De Jong (a current Dutch international) and Barry (a current England International) with Kompany and Ireland both able to play in the same position so, although they could improve this department, it is a strong enough CM to challenge for a top 4 place.

Your point about turning this eclectic bunch of players into a functioning team capable of maintaining a challenge is your valid point.
[/quote]

De Jong is very limited, Kompany is a centre back, Ireland is quite good but seems to be better in an offensive role. Barry was very good for Villa and it will be interesting to see how he'll get going for City. I think they need one more midfielder.

Given isn't good enough imho. You may think so, but I don't. He won't win them many games. For a team that wants to challenge for the league, you need better.

[/quote]

You're entitled to your opinion but you'll find that 99% of people who watch the EPL will disagree with you about Given.
[/quote]

Fair enough. I'll eat some humble pie if he does the business for City. But a goalkeeper that recently went 16 months without a clean sheet away from home doesn't fill me with confidence. Even if it was for Newcastle Utd.
[/quote]

Peter Scmeichel would have looked dodgy behind Newcastle's defence.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=34830.msg909570#msg909570 date=1248171053]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=34830.msg909568#msg909568 date=1248170826]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=34830.msg909556#msg909556 date=1248170444]
Terry won't leave Chelsea.
Lescott may sign for City, but that won't change anything.

They still need a centre back, right back, central midfielder and a goalkeeper, if they want to break into the top 4.
And even if they spend 50-70 mill on those issues, Hughes has to build a team, which he so far hasn't been able to do.

[/quote]




Given is fine.....Scum won 3 leagues in a row with a very average VDS, and Given is better than him.
Zabletta aint too bad.

A Central midfielder like Toure or Diarra would be good business for them.

I would also recommend someone of the ilk of Patrick Viera, another 'name' that could come in useful against some lower league opposition, whilst also making the club a little more attractive.

[/quote]

Heh, Given is not better than VDS.
[/quote]

He may not always have been, but he definitely is now. VDS is a long way past his best.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=34830.msg909611#msg909611 date=1248174198]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=34830.msg909570#msg909570 date=1248171053]
[quote author=Terrier link=topic=34830.msg909568#msg909568 date=1248170826]
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=34830.msg909556#msg909556 date=1248170444]
Terry won't leave Chelsea.
Lescott may sign for City, but that won't change anything.

They still need a centre back, right back, central midfielder and a goalkeeper, if they want to break into the top 4.
And even if they spend 50-70 mill on those issues, Hughes has to build a team, which he so far hasn't been able to do.

[/quote]




Given is fine.....Scum won 3 leagues in a row with a very average VDS, and Given is better than him.
Zabletta aint too bad.

A Central midfielder like Toure or Diarra would be good business for them.

I would also recommend someone of the ilk of Patrick Viera, another 'name' that could come in useful against some lower league opposition, whilst also making the club a little more attractive.

[/quote]

Heh, Given is not better than VDS.
[/quote]

He may not always have been, but he definitely is now. VDS is a long way past his best.
[/quote]

Given isn't better than VDS, at least he wasn't last season. Even if VDS should have retired after last season, and will probably show signs of age this coming season, he's much better at organizing the defence, distrubuting the ball and controlling his area than Given.

Given might pull off some world class saves, and has great reflexes but he concedes far to many easy goals imho.
 
[quote author=Hansern link=topic=34830.msg909606#msg909606 date=1248173557]

Fair enough. I'll eat some humble pie if he does the business for City. But a goalkeeper that recently went 16 months without a clean sheet away from home doesn't fill me with confidence. Even if it was for Newcastle Utd.
[/quote]

When we beat them last Christmas time Given was their man of the match even if he did pick the ball out of the back of the net five times. Goals conceeded doesn't tell the full picture of a keepers ability and performance. Just as VDS's long run of clean sheets last season doesn't mean he is the greatest keeper ever.


edit: oops, looks like I have beeen quiffing. SAWEE
 
If they got Terry and Lescott, I think yes, they would take at least 4th at the expense of the Arse.

Their defence isn't massively weak, but I think the main problem for Hughes this season is to get all these star players to gel and work as a unit, and keep them all motivated whislt rotating them all every week. Isn't going to work. Rafa couldn't crack it.

Tinkering/massive rotation policies ends in tears.
 
Given is average, they will never be compact enough with Robinho, SWP and Ireland in midfield no matter who they get in defence so i'm not worried for now

they still have to play, develop as a team and develop a system.
 
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=34830.msg909702#msg909702 date=1248180127]
Yeah, that Casillas is shite, he conceded 4 against us last season.
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Five.
 
[quote author=Spionkop69 link=topic=34830.msg909709#msg909709 date=1248181150]
[quote author=Piedro link=topic=34830.msg909702#msg909702 date=1248180127]
Yeah, that Casillas is shite, he conceded 4 against us last season.
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Five.
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TOSSER!
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=34830.msg909480#msg909480 date=1248167333]
They won't get Terry.

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The thread should have ended right there.
 
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