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I’ll just say it…

What would you do in the summer?


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rurikbird

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It’s a bit silly to let someone as good and well-fitting as Kelleher go elsewhere when Alli has rather persistent injury issues and Mamardashvili will probably need time to get used to the league. One could say that for all his quietly consistent contributions so far, Kelleher DESERVES to be given a chance to stake his claim at the #1 shirt at LFC - and since we’ve already made our choice to sign Mamardashvili, it’s Alli who might be the sacrificed, as crazy as it sounds. It’s not a straightforward case to make for selling the best GK in the world, but I think there is a case to be made:

1. Alli’s injury issues are not letting up and are likely to become worse with age. There is a significant risk when one of your most highly paid players is injury-prone, as we’ve learned with Thiago and others.

2. Financially, selling Alisson and removing his salary from the books makes more sense than selling Kelleher who is still weirdly undervalued by the league. In any other position, replacing an older star with an (almost) as good younger player is just the natural order of things and we’re lucky that in this case we don’t have to pay a premium for youth.

3. It’s possible that a straight competition between Mamardadhvili and Kelleher is the best way of integrating the former into the team and the league. Mamardashvili had this situation in Valencia (initially arriving as a back-up) and thrived - it will be much harder to get consistent playing time and improve his game when Alli is present.

4. Obviously Alli is an LFC legend and deserves all kinds of respect. But a new challenge might not be such a bad thing for him either. Bayern might be looking for a Neuer replacement soon or maybe Barca will want to replace Ter Stegen - there are lots of great clubs that will need him and appeal to him. It feels scary to think of a future without Alli, given how many shit GKs we’ve endured over the years, but it’s a lot less scary if we can keep Kelleher who we know is good enough even if for some reason Mamardashvili doesn’t work out.

Thoughts?
 
It's not scary at al when I think that we've (currently) got Ali, Kelleher, Mamardashvili (who I think is a wonderful keeper) and Jaros. With the former two incumbent it will be interesting to see which way we go. Tough time to be on the books as a Liverpool keeper!
 
4 really strong keepers. It’s amazing.

Alli still pips it but I think we owe Kelleher an extended run - and he’s earned it. I am not sure I would drop Queeeeeeveeeeeen the minute AB is fit again.

What happens if Ali stays next season? Or is it clear he may not be?
 
Can someone explain why we signed a goalkeeper? I just don't get it.

Kev has never let us down and is now being more than a great stand in. Why did anyone think we needed another keeper, particularly given we signed sod all else except a dead italian?
 
Kelleher's made it pretty clear (understandably enough) that he wants a no.1 gig, whether at LFC or elsewhere. I expect the club thought that's not going to happen here, so we needed to start getting ready for the time when he goes. Whether this latest injury for Allison changes the picture as far as Edwards, Slot and co.are concerned, I wouldn't hazard a guess at this stage.
 
I think there's a scenario where both Ali and Kelleher leave the club next summer.
That's half what I'm expecting tbh. We'll maximum get 1 more season out of Ali before we decide to sell (not him decide to go) but kelleher is absolutely going this summer
 
I think there's a scenario where both Ali and Kelleher leave the club next summer.
Well if we treat Kelleher like this then yes he probably will leave.

And why would we sell Ali (in a world without the new keeper coming in)?

Just don't get it. Baffling...
 
It is certainly a predicament.

The medium term best thing for our squad would be to half all of Kelleher, Marshmallowvilla and Jaros in the squad as it feels any 2 of those 3 is a great combo.

Ali has been the best GK in the world for years, but his injuries mean we have to look at our back up as someone who would play 10+ league games a season.

I think this is the summer we say goodbye to Ali with heads held high.

For me i think Slot should be telling Kelleher that he will start the season as #1 and Georgian will be competing with him.

Last year i have Kelleher pelters after the Fulham game i went to but i couldn’t feel safer with him. Especially when we have the ball, which has become 3x more important than the keeping.
 
I think there's a scenario where both Ali and Kelleher leave the club next summer.

This is where I'm at. Both have value and we'll need to replace one of the three (likely Trent).

Irish Kev is definitely a top class keeper though, who has likely benefitted from training alongside Allison for so long.

If all things were equal, you'd have Allison over Kelleher, but Allisons body is starting to fail him with these muscle injuries each season. We are in an enviable position right now though.
 
He’s the best keeper in the world and if any position has the ability to adjust training to protect injuries it’s goalkeeper.

I wouldn’t be selling Allison anytime soon. As good as Kelleher has done he’s no Becker and selling Ali at the end of the season seems wholly premature to me.

He could easily be our keeper for another 6/7 years.
 
Yeah, I don't remember the last time we had two other good to great options on top of probably the best keeper in the world. The places we have had multiple good options in the past have mostly been CB and CM.
 
It's mad how Alli gets injured so often. Usually keepers only get injured in a collision with an opposition player or while stretching too far to get the remote control.
 
We’ve not had 2 keepers this good since Brad Jones and Doni.

In all seriousness I don’t see the big issue here, Kelleher has voiced he would like to leave and we’ve signed Mamardashvili because we believe he’s the future #1/best young keeper out there.

If we don’t think Kelleher is good enough to be a regular then I’m fine with that - or if we believe Mamardashvili’s potential to be greater I’m fine with that too, it might come back to bite us in the arse in similar fashion to when Arsenal sold Martinez but I won’t be losing sleep if we get 30m for him.
 
He’s the best keeper in the world and if any position has the ability to adjust training to protect injuries it’s goalkeeper.

I wouldn’t be selling Allison anytime soon. As good as Kelleher has done he’s no Becker and selling Ali at the end of the season seems wholly premature to me.

He could easily be our keeper for another 6/7 years.
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He’s the best keeper in the world and if any position has the ability to adjust training to protect injuries it’s goalkeeper.

I wouldn’t be selling Allison anytime soon. As good as Kelleher has done he’s no Becker and selling Ali at the end of the season seems wholly premature to me.

He could easily be our keeper for another 6/7 years.

Mate, we are seeing what happens with City when you keep too many players too long.

We have Virgil, Salah and Ali all the wrong side of 30.

I wouldn't keep all 3 for long term regardless of how good they are right now.

If Allison is getting soft tissue injuries each year. It may be time to cash in. Adjusting training will only help minimally here.
 
Mate, we are seeing what happens with City when you keep too many players too long.

We have Virgil, Salah and Ali all the wrong side of 30.

I wouldn't keep all 3 for long term regardless of how good they are right now.

If Allison is getting soft tissue injuries each year. It may be time to cash in. Adjusting training will only help minimally here.
Keepers are a completely unique situation.

Van der Sar signed for utd at 35 and has been their best keeper since Kaspers old man.

Keepers can play into their 40’s at the top. To say he’s done at 32 is fucking bonkers.

VVD and Salah are also freaks of nature in terms of ability and fitness.

Both will be playing well into their late 30’s at the top of the game too.
 
i was quite pleased with the whole goalkeeping scenario before this thread but now you’ve got me thinking alisson and kelleher will be gone next summer.

for the record i don’t think that’ll happen, we’ve been canny enough to keep kelleher so i don’t think we’ve leave ourselves with 1 untested first choice keeper next season
 
I think there's a scenario where both Ali and Kelleher leave the club next summer.

That would make no sense. We have 3 great/potentially great keepers and need to keep 2 of them, just need to decide which 2.
 
What did he say?
He was saying that the club checked with him about signing Marmardashvili.
Also talks about him being old, honoring his current contract(2026) etc.
How there's interest from Saudi.

He hasn't explicitly said that he wants to leave but I'm just reading between the lines. Feels like with us signing a new keeper, we're giving him the option to leave.

 
That would make no sense. We have 3 great/potentially great keepers and need to keep 2 of them, just need to decide which 2.
Ok there's a scenario where Alisson stays for a season while Marmardashvili adapts to the Prem. However, Ali's contract ends in 2026 meaning it'll be his last year. Sure there's an option to extend it by one year but I just can't see how we take the first choice keeper of a top team like Valencia and bench him for two seasons.
Hence why I think Ali leaves this summer, while he's still under contract.
 
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