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Hodgson should be given warm reception.

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PaulGorst

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I realise some of you will fly off the handle at the title of this thread, but please give this a read....
For clarity: this writer will never consider Roy Hodgson’s reign as Liverpool manager as a success.

Hodgson’s reign from July 2010 to January 2011was littered with terrible results, inappropriate media dealings, poor handling of players both on and off the field and all while perfecting the defeatist demeanour of someone who had long accepted things were beyond his control.

However, in many ways they were.

Hodgson came to a club that was quite frankly, in turmoil last July. The iron grip of Tom Hicks and George Gillett continued to strangle the club, a highly dispiriting previous campaign saw the Reds finish 7th under Rafa Bentiez, the crippling debt preventing any significant outlay on transfers to improve the thread-bare squad and the loss of key assets such as Javier Mascherano and to a lesser extent Yossi Benayoun. The latter revealing his unhappiness in his final few months at Anfield after leaving for Chelsea.

There were certainly mitigating circumstances that offered Hodgson numerous ready-made excuses when his team performed badly, but just seven wins in 20 Premier League games, home defeats to Northampton, Wolves and Blackpool, an appalling away record and an abject 2-0 defeat in the Merseyside derby all spoke for volumes.

Indeed, Hodgson left as the only modern-day Liverpool manager never to win any silverware. Infact, the former Fulham man was ousted from the hot-seat before the first pieces had been handed out.

Such was the dislike of Hodgson at Anfield, it is tempting to suggest he will not be afforded a good reception from the travelling Reds who make the trip to the Hawthorns on Saturday.

But Liverpool are unlike any other club. Only the people who are viewed as shunning the support of the Kop are not remembered fondly, and Hodgson, for all his flaws was never one of them. He once complained he never truly had the support of the fans, but this is a far cry from the acts of others who are no longer adorned in the confines of Anfield.

Hodgson was honest enough to accept the lack of support was ‘understandable’ and the fans did not take to him because the team had ‘not won enough games to keep them happy’.

It is too simple to suggest we should all let by-gones be by-gones, because the Reds are still suffering due to early season poor form, but a set of fans famed for their class should allow their former manager the decency of a warm reception.

The Reds have moved on, guided by their King.
 
Roy should be treated like any other manager to come to Anfield. As if he was never in charge of this club 4 months ago. As if we've all blanked it from our memory - and he should be grateful for it too.

That said, I'm glad that he's found a club more suitable for him quickly. As bad as he was, it's never nice to see one bad choice wreck a man's career
 
His goodbye message was respectful and he's been quite dignified about the whole affair. Fair play.
 
We certainly shouldn't lower ourselves to giving him stick, but neither do I think we need feel obliged to give him a warm reception. He's just another manager of an opposition team now.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44762.msg1308331#msg1308331 date=1301578041]
We certainly shouldn't lower ourselves to giving him stick, but neither do I think we need feel obliged to give him a warm reception. He's just another manager of an opposition team now.
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This.
 
Boo-ing him will help noone at all.

I don't really see the point of boo-ing any individuals as even the real cunty ones would probably just get fired up by it.

Giving someone like Hodgson a hard time won't do that of course but it would leave rather a sour taste. I'm sure he is a decent fella and tried his best but he should never have been given the job in the first place. Not his fault.

I think he should get a warm reception at the start of the match but as soon as the game kicks off it stops. He's just the old fella managing the other team then.
 
Being as we arent playing them at Anfield i cant help think this is all a bit......wrong.
 
Absolutely, we should be magnanimous. He's been dignified, unlike Torres and Masher (as an example of how people conduct themselves) and so should we.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44762.msg1308351#msg1308351 date=1301579303]
Being as we arent playing them at Anfield i cant help think this is all a bit......wrong.
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Well no, cause I have said 'travelling fans'.
 
I don't care if he gets booed, applauded or whatever. He was shit and a major reason behind defeats to some really crap football teams. It wasn't his fault he was given the job though i suppose. Meh.
 
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44762.msg1308351#msg1308351 date=1301579303]
Being as we arent playing them at Anfield i cant help think this is all a bit......wrong.
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Well no, cause I have said 'travelling fans'.
[/quote]Not you, all the 'at anfield' comments.
Ps-I think we should pelt him with tuti.
 
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[quote author=PaulGorst link=topic=44762.msg1308358#msg1308358 date=1301580406]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44762.msg1308351#msg1308351 date=1301579303]
Being as we arent playing them at Anfield i cant help think this is all a bit......wrong.
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Well no, cause I have said 'travelling fans'.
[/quote]Not you, all the 'at anfield' comments.
Ps-I think we should pelt him with tuti.
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They've found the violin from the Titanic.
 
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[quote author=PaulGorst link=topic=44762.msg1308358#msg1308358 date=1301580406]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44762.msg1308351#msg1308351 date=1301579303]
Being as we arent playing them at Anfield i cant help think this is all a bit......wrong.
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Well no, cause I have said 'travelling fans'.
[/quote]Not you, all the 'at anfield' comments.
Ps-I think we should pelt him with tuti.
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Ah, with you now.
To be honest, I don't even know why I wrote that, we should just lash a pig's head at him like Barca fans did to Figo.
 
Things didn't work out with Roy but he tried.

No matter, we should respect him like we do others.
 
But as Dalglish said when he took over from him, he always behaved with great dignity and refused to take the customary potshot at his former club when he left.

He did take a swipe at the Kop after the Wolves defeat, but it would have required the patience of Job not to react to their sarcastic calls of "Hodgson for England".

Hodgson did do some good and Raul Meireles has proved to be an excellent acquisition, while he gave Martin Kelly his head this season.

Basically, Hodgson should be remembered by Kopites as someone who did his best for Liverpool, but whose best wasn't quite good enough.
 
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=44762.msg1308624#msg1308624 date=1301623981]
I do my utmost to forget that he ever managed us.
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Poor Roy probably genuinely HAS forgot.
 
Warm reception my arse. Whereas it's not in my nature to jeer and boo there's no fucking way on this Earth he's getting any shape of warm reception from me. I can't stand the doddering auld cunt. It wasn't his fault we signed him but the buck stops there. They way he conducted his business completely sickened me. The defeatist attitude, the bullshit comments, his complete ineptitude, his lack of guts, his piss poor tactics and, worst of all, his reoccurring ability to blame everyone else - fans, players and club while refusing to take any of the blame. The cheeky cunt even had the audacity to claim Kenny was seeing some of the benefits of his hard work. He was a disaster and in way over his head but just didn't have the guts to admit it.

He can fuck right off. If he was still in charge we'd be fighting relegation, not fighting for a European place and this club may be irreparably broken. I seriously cannot stand him and have no respect nor sympathy for him whatsoever because of the sly arse way he conducted himself. I've never felt that way about a Liverpool manager before. I hope we give West Brom and Roy and severe twatting tomorrow. After all, even if we do, none of it will be his fault.
 
I'm not bothered about him tbh, i feel no guilt about the stick many of us gave him nor much of the vitriol. Perhaps too many brickbats were thrown at him hastily and with too much force to be excused but ultimately the dopey aul twat deserved them, yes he had a tough hand to play nobody can deny that but he should have manned the fuck up and done better.

During all of the atrocious results one of his many poor interviews stuck out for me and it was the one in which he claimed that he had "earned his shot" at the job, that in some way he felt entitled to the job as though it was his reward for his previous work, this too me indicated a completely misguided mental approach on his part. You should take the Liverpool job because you are hungry to succeed not because you feel you have already succeeded, it's not a laurel or an entitlement it's a duty and a responsibility. So often with Hodgson he gave the impression that we were irreparably shite and it was beyond his control, well Roy if you are damping down expectations and extinguishing the confidence of the fans to that extent just what the fuck are you doing for the confidence of the players!

It reminded me of the day I decided Houllier should leave, a manager I greatly admired and cared about, on scraping into the champs league in his last season having wasted millions on Diouf and Cheyrou then attending the AGM and expecting applause for his efforts as though 4th was good enough. No Gerard it wasn't.

Hodgsons' blaming of nearly all those around including the fans just confirmed to me that he was not cut out for the job, too fatalistic, too pessimistic, quite simply out of his depth.

The best thing about him, the only good thing, was that he was so utterly out of tune and inept that we urgently had to replace him with stopgap Kenny, who would most likely not have been appointed if we had had time to hunt interview etc etc..

Good reception? Why? because he's a decent chap? How about we just ignore him and give his team a right good thrashing.
 
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Warm reception my arse. Whereas it's not in my nature to jeer and boo there's no fucking way on this Earth he's getting any shape of warm reception from me. I can't stand the doddering auld cunt. It wasn't his fault we signed him but the buck stops there. They way he conducted his business completely sickened me. The defeatist attitude, the bullshit comments, his complete ineptitude, his lack of guts, his piss poor tactics and, worst of all, his reoccurring ability to blame everyone else - fans, players and club while refusing to take any of the blame. The cheeky cunt even had the audacity to claim Kenny was seeing some of the benefits of his hard work. He was a disaster and in way over his head but just didn't have the guts to admit it.

He can fuck right off. If he was still in charge we'd be fighting relegation, not fighting for a European place and this club may be irreparably broken. I seriously cannot stand him and have no respect nor sympathy for him whatsoever because of the sly arse way he conducted himself. I've never felt that way about a Liverpool manager before. I hope we give West Brom and Roy and severe twatting tomorrow. After all, even if we do, none of it will be his fault.

[/quote]Word perfect that mate. His comments about Rikjaard alone were shit.
 
Noone could deny that he was bloody useless and irritated the fuck out of everyone but we've moved on now. We have the man we want and the team has picked up. What good is it giving Hodgson a hard time now? What does it achieve?

I am not saying he should be given a hero's welcome. Of course he shouldn't. But apart from anything else if our fans boo the old man it just reinforces his claim and the media stance that somehow he was hounded out and the fans were always against him etc. It would be Poor Woy the victim against those nasty Liverpool supporters.
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44762.msg1308667#msg1308667 date=1301642593]
Warm reception my arse. Whereas it's not in my nature to jeer and boo there's no fucking way on this Earth he's getting any shape of warm reception from me. I can't stand the doddering auld cunt. It wasn't his fault we signed him but the buck stops there. They way he conducted his business completely sickened me. The defeatist attitude, the bullshit comments, his complete ineptitude, his lack of guts, his piss poor tactics and, worst of all, his reoccurring ability to blame everyone else - fans, players and club while refusing to take any of the blame. The cheeky cunt even had the audacity to claim Kenny was seeing some of the benefits of his hard work. He was a disaster and in way over his head but just didn't have the guts to admit it.

He can fuck right off. If he was still in charge we'd be fighting relegation, not fighting for a European place and this club may be irreparably broken. I seriously cannot stand him and have no respect nor sympathy for him whatsoever because of the sly arse way he conducted himself. I've never felt that way about a Liverpool manager before. I hope we give West Brom and Roy and severe twatting tomorrow. After all, even if we do, none of it will be his fault.
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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44762.msg1308667#msg1308667 date=1301642593]
Warm reception my arse. Whereas it's not in my nature to jeer and boo there's no fucking way on this Earth he's getting any shape of warm reception from me. I can't stand the doddering auld cunt. It wasn't his fault we signed him but the buck stops there. They way he conducted his business completely sickened me. The defeatist attitude, the bullshit comments, his complete ineptitude, his lack of guts, his piss poor tactics and, worst of all, his reoccurring ability to blame everyone else - fans, players and club while refusing to take any of the blame. The cheeky cunt even had the audacity to claim Kenny was seeing some of the benefits of his hard work. He was a disaster and in way over his head but just didn't have the guts to admit it.

He can fuck right off. If he was still in charge we'd be fighting relegation, not fighting for a European place and this club may be irreparably broken. I seriously cannot stand him and have no respect nor sympathy for him whatsoever because of the sly arse way he conducted himself. I've never felt that way about a Liverpool manager before. I hope we give West Brom and Roy and severe twatting tomorrow. After all, even if we do, none of it will be his fault.

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Yep. All of this. Hope we thrash them tomorrow.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44762.msg1308699#msg1308699 date=1301647882]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44762.msg1308667#msg1308667 date=1301642593]
Warm reception my arse. Whereas it's not in my nature to jeer and boo there's no fucking way on this Earth he's getting any shape of warm reception from me. I can't stand the doddering auld cunt. It wasn't his fault we signed him but the buck stops there. They way he conducted his business completely sickened me. The defeatist attitude, the bullshit comments, his complete ineptitude, his lack of guts, his piss poor tactics and, worst of all, his reoccurring ability to blame everyone else - fans, players and club while refusing to take any of the blame. The cheeky cunt even had the audacity to claim Kenny was seeing some of the benefits of his hard work. He was a disaster and in way over his head but just didn't have the guts to admit it.

He can fuck right off. If he was still in charge we'd be fighting relegation, not fighting for a European place and this club may be irreparably broken. I seriously cannot stand him and have no respect nor sympathy for him whatsoever because of the sly arse way he conducted himself. I've never felt that way about a Liverpool manager before. I hope we give West Brom and Roy and severe twatting tomorrow. After all, even if we do, none of it will be his fault.

[/quote]Word perfect that mate. His comments about Rikjaard alone were shit.
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Yep. I remember the comments. Just after Rik. had left Gala. Roy is such a creep.
 
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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44762.msg1308699#msg1308699 date=1301647882]
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44762.msg1308667#msg1308667 date=1301642593]
Warm reception my arse. Whereas it's not in my nature to jeer and boo there's no fucking way on this Earth he's getting any shape of warm reception from me. I can't stand the doddering auld cunt. It wasn't his fault we signed him but the buck stops there. They way he conducted his business completely sickened me. The defeatist attitude, the bullshit comments, his complete ineptitude, his lack of guts, his piss poor tactics and, worst of all, his reoccurring ability to blame everyone else - fans, players and club while refusing to take any of the blame. The cheeky cunt even had the audacity to claim Kenny was seeing some of the benefits of his hard work. He was a disaster and in way over his head but just didn't have the guts to admit it.

He can fuck right off. If he was still in charge we'd be fighting relegation, not fighting for a European place and this club may be irreparably broken. I seriously cannot stand him and have no respect nor sympathy for him whatsoever because of the sly arse way he conducted himself. I've never felt that way about a Liverpool manager before. I hope we give West Brom and Roy and severe twatting tomorrow. After all, even if we do, none of it will be his fault.

[/quote]Word perfect that mate. His comments about Rikjaard alone were shit.
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Yep. I remember the comments. Just after Rik. had left Gala. Roy is such a creep.
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What did he say ?
 
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