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Hodgson has found his level at West Brom

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On the face of it, West Bromwich Albion have fared rather remarkably in the latest round of Premier League musical chairs. The jingle has stopped and there they find Roy Hodgson in the hotseat. The man who just last May was voted the LMA Manager of the Year by a record margin.
How did West Brom, little West Brom, manage to entice such a gargantua of gafferdom? They are but one place off the bottom three (on goal difference), have lost 13 of 19 matches and last kept a clean sheet in August – against Leyton Orient. As offers go, it can't quite have been of the "I couldn't turn down" variety.
Except to Hodgson it plainly was, and to understand why is to reflect on nine months in which a new perception of the greying 63-year-old has gestated and is slowly emerging into the blinking world.

In this time, Hodgson has gone from genius to pragmatist; from master tactician to long-ball merchant; from everyone's favourite uncle to a grumpy old man in the corner who cannot connect; from the beloved who turned a sow's ear into a silk purse into the accused who turned a silk purse into a sow's ear. He had his chance and wasn't up to it. With West Bromwich he has found his level.
Of course, none of that is fair to either manager or club. Hodgson is one of those "fine servants" to the game who should never come in for personal criticism. His credentials are his track record and that is indisputable. He took Fulham to a European final, for goodness sake.
All very true, yet it's a mystery to me why it is deemed allowable for the media to target his Liverpool predecessor so readily. After all, Rafael Benitez's track record isn't too shabby; having won the Champions' League, having reached the final on another occasion, the semi-final on another occasion and having helped Liverpool to their finest League finish in 19 years. But there we go. One should not argue with the accepted perception, and the accepted perception for so long was that Hodgson's Anfield failure could be laid at the door of the departed Spaniard. "This is Rafa's mess," went the cry. "Poor old Roy had no chance."
Yet a different reality suddenly dawned. In the four weeks that led to the – albeit disappointing – home draw with Wigan, Kenny Dalglish, a manager who has been out of the dug-out more than a decade, has taken a team in 12th, four points off the drop zone, into sixth, five points off a European place. A case of same team, different results; so the transformation requires some explanation even with yesterday's minor setback. Although perhaps not the explanation being offered by those clinging on to the Liverpool myth. That goes as follows.
Dalglish has turned it all around by the power of his own legend. The players who wouldn't play for Uncle Roy are playing for King Kenny. With the wretched American owners no more and with the blessed American owner now in place, the club is filled with the positive where before only the negative ruined the roost. It has not been a managerial change so much as a culture change. It was merely Hodgson's bad luck that he was the last custodian of the evil empire.
As part of this theory, the fans were complicit in his sacking, too. They never chanted his name, they never supported him. The manner in which supposedly the most loyal set of fans in footballing civilisation turned on him made his task impossible. Again, Hodgson suffered largely because of the stench of a decayed ownership.
But look at it another way. Look at it through the eyes of Daniel Agger, an accomplished player who saw the Hodgson regime through his own depressed eyes. The centre-half found out about Hodgson's belief in "positive brainwashing", in his irrefutable mantra of "shape, shape, shape". Agger was told to get rid of the ball, not play with it, not cultivate it; and he could not understand why. The rumblings emerging from the dressing room now indicate that neither did so many of his team-mates. Each and every interview with a Liverpool player features their enjoyment of training. They are off the leash. Their talents are no longer shackled.
That is the truth of Hodgson's demise at Anfield. The players looked like they weren't trying because they didn't believe in what they were trying. If a manager is not there to enthuse and inspire, then why is he there? Not to moan to journalists about needing everyone's support.
And if you still insist on putting the cart before the horse, Dalglish probably did have a head start in hearing his name being chanted from the off. But the Kop admired him for his previous achievements, just like they only sang out for Gérard Houllier and Benitez after they had achieved. With Dalglish, the players, like the fans, know what they are about to receive and that's what put a smile on their faces. They were right all along but only now does anyone acknowledge their footballing understanding and accede that maybe it wasn't all about their blind, arrogant faith in a saviour. Hodgson's limited ideals may work in the lesser clubs, with lesser players, but at the better clubs, with the better players, they plainly fell short.
So should West Brom weep or cheer? Depends on what they want. Roberto Di Matteo could have taken them higher than Hodgson, but he could have taken them lower as well. That's the problem with a safe pair of hands. Particularly ones handcuffed in a rigid "system". Funny how a gain can so quickly become a loss.

http://www.independent.co.uk/sport/football/news-and-comment/the-last-word-hodgson-has-found-his-level-with-west-brom-2213246.html
 
Nice read FFF. Ta.
I assume that if Brom get relegated that it will be Di Matteo's fault
 
I chanced upon their remaining fixtures and it looks like a hell of a battle - not least for Roy, given his away record.

One would expect them to make the most out of their home fixtures but 50% of those are against top 4/5 sides - including us. That's almost 25% of the remaining games being 'winnable'.

Good luck to him, he'll need it.
 
Good read Jon.

Good luck to west brom..
Just seeing Roy in the liverpool training kit sends shivers down my spine.
 
Ah football management. The only job where you can make a huge living out of being completely average or poor at your job, achieve nothing and get paid millions.
 
[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44216.msg1285020#msg1285020 date=1297624075]
Ah football management. The only job where you can make a huge living out of being completely average or poor at your job, achieve nothing and get paid millions.
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Well, apart from football players, scouts, & pundits...
 
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[quote author=Sunny link=topic=44216.msg1285020#msg1285020 date=1297624075]
Ah football management. The only job where you can make a huge living out of being completely average or poor at your job, achieve nothing and get paid millions.
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Well, apart from football players, scouts, & pundits...
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It is good money if you can get the limited jobs available... seriously think is it a old boys' network that get you the job?
 
Unfortunately we play them AT HOME on April 2nd. That god it's the day AFTER All Fool's day.
 
[quote author=Dee link=topic=44216.msg1285148#msg1285148 date=1297672933]
Unfortunately we play them AT HOME on April 2nd. That god it's the day AFTER All Fool's day.
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I've no doubt we'll suffer payback at the hands of the footballing Gods and be subjected to some sort of outrageous fluke. The pundits will be very disappointed if that should happen...
 
Abstracts from: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/West-Brom-Roy-Hodgson-prepared-to-be-Brigadier-Boring-again-to-save-Baggies-from-the-drop-article702009.html

Roy Hodgson is prepared to be Brigadier Boring again to win his second Premier League survival battle.

That’s the affectionate name he was given by ­Fulham’s players for the ­endless defensive drills in training that dragged them from relegation ­certainties to a UEFA Cup final.

And after just five days at West Bromwich, sacked ­Liverpool boss ­Hodgson is making no ­apologies for adopting the same approach again.

In three long sessions so far he’s scrapped five-a-sides and spent his time laying out the strategy he hopes will bring the Baggies their first clean sheet since August in today’s bitter Black Country derby at home to relegation rivals Wolves.

Defender Jonas Olsson ­revealed: “All the work we have done this week has been 11 against 11 on a big pitch, sorting out exactly how we are ­expected to perform.

“I’m not saying that we didn’t all try to defend as a team before – but it has been made very clear to us this week exactly how the new manager wants us togo about that.â€
 
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WBA fare remarkably well because they landed Roy? Are you serious?
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You missed out the very first words, "On the face of it". The rest of the article explains why the words you've quoted actually don't represent the writer's view.
 
[quote author=Binny link=topic=44216.msg1288083#msg1288083 date=1298185969]
Abstracts from: http://www.mirrorfootball.co.uk/news/West-Brom-Roy-Hodgson-prepared-to-be-Brigadier-Boring-again-to-save-Baggies-from-the-drop-article702009.html

Roy Hodgson is prepared to be Brigadier Boring again to win his second Premier League survival battle.

That’s the affectionate name he was given by ­Fulham’s players for the ­endless defensive drills in training that dragged them from relegation ­certainties to a UEFA Cup final.

And after just five days at West Bromwich, sacked ­Liverpool boss ­Hodgson is making no ­apologies for adopting the same approach again.

In three long sessions so far he’s scrapped five-a-sides and spent his time laying out the strategy he hopes will bring the Baggies their first clean sheet since August in today’s bitter Black Country derby at home to relegation rivals Wolves.

Defender Jonas Olsson ­revealed: “All the work we have done this week has been 11 against 11 on a big pitch, sorting out exactly how we are ­expected to perform.

“I’m not saying that we didn’t all try to defend as a team before – but it has been made very clear to us this week exactly how the new manager wants us to go about that.â€

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West Brom have conceeded more goals than anyone else in the league, so Woy is going about this in the right way.

But the sad fact is he would be doing exactly the same if West Brom hadn't conceeded a goal all year.
 
That's the key. It isn't that Roy can't do the job at all, it's that he can only do it in a particular way which won't suit every situation.
 
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What about Major Fucking Useless Old Twat?
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And that is actually by far the best thing you can say about him!
 
Brigadier Blazer of the Baggies.

I bet the squad is relishing the thought of endless drills and pep talks centred around 'realism'.
 
Agger had a small pork in Hodgson side again. Claiming that Dalglish had made Liverpool a beter defensive unit by just keeping the ball in the team. He pointed out that it was the exact same players that Hodgson had.
 
Hodgson has enjoyed a positive start to his reign at Albion, winning one and drawing three of his first four games since taking over from Roberto Di Matteo.

His side will have their work cut out to continue that unbeaten run for the next month, with matches against Liverpool, Chelsea and Tottenham to come in the coming weeks.

But the former Fulham boss is relishing the battle to beat the drop.

"I suppose the truthful answer would be yes, I'm enjoying it more now (than he did at Anfield) because no-one likes to be in a situation where the work you're doing is not appreciated," said Hodgson, who left Liverpool in January after a forgettable six months in charge.

"It's nice to be here where the work I'm doing is appreciated.

"But I've also got a sneaking suspicion that some of the work I did at Liverpool was appreciated by certain people."
 
Hodgson was booted out of Liverpool after Premier League defeats to Wolves and Blackburn saw the club slide down the table.

He added: “We lost two games at Liverpool when we were seventh or eighth in the league which put us down to 12th.

“If you get pilloried for losing two games I suppose I was pilloried.

“I always knew at Liverpool we would finish in the top six, seven or eight once we got our players back.

“My misfortune was we also lost two games at the wrong time.

“And my misfortune was to be at a club where the fans made it pretty clear early on they really wanted the manager they have got now.

“But that side of it I think I accepted pretty gracefully.â€

Hodgson also admitted he was surprised Liverpool had crashed out of the Europa League to Braga after saying the Reds dominated both games
 
He's on the run from reality. The fans may have wanted the King but the chanting only started after it became clear that Hodgson was making an almighty mess of the job. And if what he first said at the time (before he was forced to backpedal) was "graceful acceptance", I can expect Kate Beckinsale to sashay into my bedroom tonight wearing nothing but a bright smile.
 
Albion’s players are backing Roy Hodgson to take ‘Liverpool week’ in his stride as the head coach zeroes in on three more survival points.

The Baggies are in for a high profile week as Hodgson’s abortive reign at Anfield comes back into the spotlight with his first game against his former employers at the Hawthorns on Saturday.

The Albion boss has gone some way to repairing whatever damage was done to his reputation with his impressive start in the West Midlands – an unbeaten four-game sequence.

And the players who have responded so quickly to his methods know enough about Hodgson to expect nothing to disturb his focus on the challenge coming Albion’s way this weekend.

Defender Jonas Olsson said: “The occasion will be blown up by the media. But we have seen what a good manager he is. He is unbeaten since he’s arrived and has done a brilliant job so far.

“All of the players are on board with him and taking in his ideas.
He’s only had five or so weeks yet we are already seeing the results from the changes he’s made.

“I think we had struggled with organisation, the shape of the team and doing our jobs as a unit, especially the defence. That’s what’s been highlighted the most since he came.

“We’ve been working 11 against 11, using the big pitch, working on game situations. We are more solid than we were but, with the ball, we can still play some good football.

“If we can just stay up this year and have a whole pre-season with this gaffer then we’ll have some very promising times ahead.â€

Hodgson rarely completes a round of media duties as Albion head coach without some reference to Liverpool, which are politely batted away as he refuses to antagonise a controversial issue.

The 63-year-old left the club after just 31 games at the helm – the shortest managerial reign in Liverpool’s history – in early January.

But Olsson added: “I don’t see him as the kind of man who will get carried away with the Liverpool issue.

“For him it’s another three points as it is for the players and fans. I don’t think he will see it as a chance to justify himself.
It’s about getting this club further away from relegation.

“He has enough quality as a manager and person without having his own agenda or having any need to put the record straight.

“Perhapsit will be more special but the only relevance come the final whistle will be three points.â€
 
It will really twist my melon if we don't win this weekend . Having to listen to him after, banging on about how this wasn't about revenge , it was about WBA and then the media asking were liverpool wrong to get rid of him blah blah ...no , we have to bash them 4-0 .
 
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