[quote author=Wizardry link=topic=39852.msg1091364#msg1091364 date=1271891220]
[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=39852.msg1090192#msg1090192 date=1271701323]
I don't see how RBS allowing them one last chance to see if they can suck a final draft of blood is going to help things, the only positive I can see from last weeks developments is the imminent departure of two thoroughly greedy carpetbaggers.
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You're bitter, Molby. We get it! One post on the subject makes it clear.
To describe an alternate view to your posts as fanciful is ironic on the grandest of scales.
There is plenty to debate but your dismissal of the commercial strides we have taken since they bought the club makes using the CL victory to insult Rafa seem chivalrous. These two apparent "clowns" have increased our marketability hugely, increased our revenue massively, signed the most lucrative sponsorship deal we've ever seen - despite working through the worst financial crisis the world has seen in the last 30 years. But apparently they're just reaping the rewards of something that was going to happen anyway. ???
I've said it plenty of times and been through it with plenty of colleagues over the last couple of years; the one real mistake they have made (putting aside the debatable signing of Rafa's current contract) was to forecast a date to start constructing the new stadium. It was a comment borne of the optimism sweeping them at the time but still looked a foolish move at the time. Plenty of us said at the time that it was something that could come back to bite them and, in the end, it has been used to hang them several times over.
Demanding that they reduce the asking price for the club?? Absurd! What did we think they were here to do - act as a charity for LFC cause there weren't enough needy clubs in the US?
To this point they've continued to service the loan and done so more consistently than the majority of home owners manage to service their mortgages - and most of these owners are allowed to continue living there without foreclosure. RBS are going to become more relaxed on the settlement of the loan the more confidence we see returning to the economy. All the indications in Asia and the US just now are that the economy is building steadily without booming - the text book demonstration of strong, long term economic growth. Why would RBS risk a growing asset for international bad press, additional cost in administration requirements and the possibility of local fall out if the administration didn't go well?
As for us, well we've got a far higher revenue than ever, we've spent more money on players than ever in our history and a manager that seemingly the majority of fans wanted locked into a long term contract. If I was anywhere near the G&H team just now I'd be pointing out that even the bloody UK banks (notoriously conservative) are becoming more confident in the economy; only a fool would ditch they're largest asset now without consideration for future growth.
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I had my own opinion described as fanciful in the post previous, for this reason, and this reason alone I responded in kind.
Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it.... we seem to be in the realm of latin maxims....
So i'm absurd fanciful and bitter then.
Fair enough.
You see but I would counter that by saying that to patently fail in a business project and yet expect a handsome profit is somewhat fanciful.
There is bad luck in business as well as in all other human endeavours, that is no surprise.
Bad luck doesn't excuse the lies does it?Or the rampant desperate greed...
Also to try for years and years to sell at a ludricously inflated price and when failing to do so raise the price!! well that's just absurd.
May I add to accuse me (correctly, for I am angry also) of being "bitter" whilst defending said behaviour is obtuse.
Is it possible to be deliberately obtuse Wiz? does the word allow itself to be deliberate?
They can get fucked.
[quote author=Molbystwin link=topic=39852.msg1090192#msg1090192 date=1271701323]
I don't see how RBS allowing them one last chance to see if they can suck a final draft of blood is going to help things, the only positive I can see from last weeks developments is the imminent departure of two thoroughly greedy carpetbaggers.
[/quote]
You're bitter, Molby. We get it! One post on the subject makes it clear.
To describe an alternate view to your posts as fanciful is ironic on the grandest of scales.
There is plenty to debate but your dismissal of the commercial strides we have taken since they bought the club makes using the CL victory to insult Rafa seem chivalrous. These two apparent "clowns" have increased our marketability hugely, increased our revenue massively, signed the most lucrative sponsorship deal we've ever seen - despite working through the worst financial crisis the world has seen in the last 30 years. But apparently they're just reaping the rewards of something that was going to happen anyway. ???
I've said it plenty of times and been through it with plenty of colleagues over the last couple of years; the one real mistake they have made (putting aside the debatable signing of Rafa's current contract) was to forecast a date to start constructing the new stadium. It was a comment borne of the optimism sweeping them at the time but still looked a foolish move at the time. Plenty of us said at the time that it was something that could come back to bite them and, in the end, it has been used to hang them several times over.
Demanding that they reduce the asking price for the club?? Absurd! What did we think they were here to do - act as a charity for LFC cause there weren't enough needy clubs in the US?
To this point they've continued to service the loan and done so more consistently than the majority of home owners manage to service their mortgages - and most of these owners are allowed to continue living there without foreclosure. RBS are going to become more relaxed on the settlement of the loan the more confidence we see returning to the economy. All the indications in Asia and the US just now are that the economy is building steadily without booming - the text book demonstration of strong, long term economic growth. Why would RBS risk a growing asset for international bad press, additional cost in administration requirements and the possibility of local fall out if the administration didn't go well?
As for us, well we've got a far higher revenue than ever, we've spent more money on players than ever in our history and a manager that seemingly the majority of fans wanted locked into a long term contract. If I was anywhere near the G&H team just now I'd be pointing out that even the bloody UK banks (notoriously conservative) are becoming more confident in the economy; only a fool would ditch they're largest asset now without consideration for future growth.
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I had my own opinion described as fanciful in the post previous, for this reason, and this reason alone I responded in kind.
Everything is worth what its purchaser will pay for it.... we seem to be in the realm of latin maxims....
So i'm absurd fanciful and bitter then.
Fair enough.
You see but I would counter that by saying that to patently fail in a business project and yet expect a handsome profit is somewhat fanciful.
There is bad luck in business as well as in all other human endeavours, that is no surprise.
Bad luck doesn't excuse the lies does it?Or the rampant desperate greed...
Also to try for years and years to sell at a ludricously inflated price and when failing to do so raise the price!! well that's just absurd.
May I add to accuse me (correctly, for I am angry also) of being "bitter" whilst defending said behaviour is obtuse.
Is it possible to be deliberately obtuse Wiz? does the word allow itself to be deliberate?
They can get fucked.
