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Thierry Henry has issued a statement in response to claims he 'cheated' to earn France a World Cup final place at the expense of the Republic of Ireland.

The striker handled the ball twice in the build-up to creating William Gallas' goal in extra-time on Wednesday night which earned France a 2-1 aggregate success.

Ireland's players were left enraged by the incident, leading to accusations that Henry is a 'cheat' and that the game should be replayed.

Fifa has confirmed the match will not be allowed to take place again and, while Henry feels a replay would be the fairest solution, he is adamant he did not deliberately cheat.

Here is Henry's statement in full:

"I have said at the time and I will say again that yes I handled the ball.

"I am not a cheat and never have been. It was an instinctive reaction to a ball that was coming extremely fast in a crowded penalty area.

"As a footballer you do not have the luxury of the television to slow the pace of the ball down 100 times to be able to make a conscious decision.

"People are viewing a slow motion version of what happened and not what I or any other footballer faces in the game.

"If people look at it in full speed you will see that it was an instinctive reaction. It is impossible to be anything other than that.

"I have never denied that the ball was controlled with my hand. I told the Irish players, the referee and the media this after the game.

"Naturally I feel embarrassed at the way that we won and feel extremely sorry for the Irish who definitely deserve to be in South Africa.

"Of course the fairest solution would be to replay the game, but it is not in my control.

"There is little more I can do apart from admit that the ball had contact with my hand leading up to our equalising goal and I feel very sorry for the Irish."



No matter what you say I agree with what he said.. what he did was purely instinctive, not 'blatent' as some people see..

I feel sorry for the bloke I do.. His reputation has been seriously tarnished.. this is a bigger loss to him than what some Ireland players have lost in terms of not being in the world cup..

Henry will always be remembered as the player.. or 'cheat' who handled the ball that knocked Ireland out of the World Cup. rather than the Brilliant player He once was.
 
I don't think it'll change anything.

He's always had a cheating side to him as we've seem with some laughable dives over the years, but he's hardly alone there.

Only the Irish will remember this for any period of time.
 
I don't feel sorry for him at all.

Although I do agree that he most probably didn't intend for it to work out like it did, it was way too fast for him to think about it.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37326.msg993427#msg993427 date=1258734091]
I don't think it'll change anything.

He's always had a cheating side to him as we've seem with some laughable dives over the years, but he's hardly alone there.

Only the Irish will remember this for any period of time.
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Yes
 
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=37326.msg993429#msg993429 date=1258734135]
I don't feel sorry for him at all.

Although I do agree that he most probably didn't intend for it to work out like it did, it was way too fast for him to think about it.
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I don't feel sorry for him in that sort of way.. if you get my meaning..

I just feel sorry for him, that in the light of this.... a once brilliant player of his generation, reputation has been completely tarnished.
 
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=37326.msg993429#msg993429 date=1258734135]
I don't feel sorry for him at all.

Although I do agree that he most probably didn't intend for it to work out like it did, it was way too fast for him to think about it.
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However if he probably didnt intend it to work out that way, he had until the ball was tipped off to restart the game, to rectify his wrongdoing.

Im not saying he should have done, or if anyone else would have done, or if I would wanted an Irish player in the same circumstance to have done, but you cant have it both ways.

Therefore I dont feel sorry for him in any way.
 
I do feel slo-mo replays do encourage a sort of unthinking over-analysis of players' motives. Something what happens in a nano-second gets re-examined frame by frame until an evil genius with a white cat on his lap can be glimpsed orchestrating the move. But Henry's was such a blatant action he doesn't deserve to wriggle off the hook so easily.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37326.msg993427#msg993427 date=1258734091]
I don't think it'll change anything.

He's always had a cheating side to him as we've seem with some laughable dives over the years, but he's hardly alone there.

Only the Irish will remember this for any period of time.
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Nope I dont agree with this. Considering the attention it received in the Indian media and is continuing to receive, I think this incident will be associated with him for the rest of his life. He always had a cheating side. Agree with that. And a lot of stars have that. But in recent times, nobody has gotten away with something so blatant in such a crucial game.
 
[quote author=gkmacca link=topic=37326.msg993465#msg993465 date=1258735326]
I do feel slo-mo replays do encourage a sort of unthinking over-analysis of players' motives. Something what happens in a nano-second gets re-examined frame by frame until an evil genius with a white cat on his lap can be glimpsed orchestrating the move. But Henry's was such a blatant action he doesn't deserve to wriggle off the hook so easily.
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Quite. If it was "instinctive" it's because the guy is an instinctive cheat.
 
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37326.msg993427#msg993427 date=1258734091]
I don't think it'll change anything.

He's always had a cheating side to him as we've seem with some laughable dives over the years, but he's hardly alone there.

Only the Irish will remember this for any period of time.
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Nope I dont agree with this. Considering the attention it received in the Indian media and is continuing to receive, I think this incident will be associated with him for the rest of his life. He always had a cheating side. Agree with that. And a lot of stars have that. But in recent times, nobody has gotten away with something so blatant in such a crucial game.
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Gerrard dived in Istanbul. It may not have been 'as blatant' but it still changed the course of the game.

And only the Irish will remember it because they're the only people who care they're not at the World Cup. I had no interest in the game, and therefore no interest in the incident - that's just how 95% of people will see it.
 
Not the same. Gattuso clipped his back leg. Stevie certainly made the most of going down, but it would have been a travesty of justice if Milan had gotten away with that.
 
then as Alonso scored the rebound he was completely wiped out from behind. Why does no one ever give a red card if you score the goal?

Say Alonso had put that wide or missed the ball... another pen and a red.

(gone off topic sorry)
 
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37326.msg993427#msg993427 date=1258734091]
I don't think it'll change anything.

He's always had a cheating side to him as we've seem with some laughable dives over the years, but he's hardly alone there.

Only the Irish will remember this for any period of time.
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Yes
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Bollocks.

Is it only the English who remember the Maradona goal? Is it shite.

I must say, Georgie... You're "not really, just having a larf" anti-Irishness does come a cross as quite real sometimes.
 
I'm not anti-Irish, I just don't want the football team to do well. I don't like the English football team either, but find the hypocrisy at times frustrating. It's fine to have a pop at England, but everyone is up in arms when it's at Ireland.

I apologise if I sound offensive etc, I assure you it's not meant.

I dislike the French football team signifncantly more if that helps.
 
Which occurred at a WC quarter final under the eyes of the world, watched by hundreds of millions of people.

It's pretty different.
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=37326.msg993569#msg993569 date=1258740289]
I'm not anti-Irish, I just don't want the football team to do well. I don't like the English football team either, but find the hypocrisy at times frustrating. It's fine to have a pop at England, but everyone is up in arms when it's at Ireland.

I apologise if I sound offensive etc, I assure you it's not meant.

I dislike the French football team signifncantly more if that helps.
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Ok, so you don't want the team to win... Why is that? What's it based on?

And why don't you want your own country to do well either? One would think that if, as you've said before, you don't cheer us on because you know many of us don't cheer you on, that you'd actually care about how you lot do.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37326.msg993571#msg993571 date=1258740471]
Which occurred at a WC quarter final under the eyes of the world, watched by hundreds of millions of people.

It's pretty different.
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No doubt Maradona's was "worse", yes.

But second only to that, I cannot think of a bigger match, with so much at stake that was decided by such blatant cheating... And be under no illusions, mate, this match was watched globally too.

It may not have been a WC quarter final, but it's being talked about around the world, and for many, many football fans, and not just the Paddies, this will be the first thing that comes to mind forever more when henry's name is mentioned.
 
I don't like England doing well because it's in the media saying they're the greatest team ever etc all the time when they win a game.

I don't want Scotland/Wales/Northern Ireland/Republic of Ireland to do well because of the anti-English stuff. Yes, I know it's an absurd view as I don't like them either (although I am proud to be English, just not interested in the football team). I can't really explain it.

I'd rather someone like Nigeria won the world cup.
 
I'm sorry, I just don't think anyone cares to be honest.

If there wasn't 10+ Irish posters on here, I doubt there even would have been a match thread.

Given the pleasure the Irish take at the failure of the English, you'll forgive me for not being up in arms.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37326.msg993581#msg993581 date=1258740893]
I'm sorry, I just don't think anyone cares to be honest.

If there wasn't 10+ Irish posters on here, I doubt there even would have been a match thread.

Given the pleasure the Irish take at the failure of the English, you'll forgive me for not being up in arms.
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Well, don't let the fact that many of us have said, many times, that we actually don't wish failure on you lot, dissuade you from pulling out that old pile of shite... In fact, many of us have cited exactly what Georgie says up there as the only thing we take umbridge with - But when we do it, etc...

And regardless of the fact that it was Ireland, pretending that it was only important to us is just silly. It's made the news everywhere in the world. It was on CNN last night.

It will be remembered.
 
We'll have to agree to differ.

There's always a brief media furore, as we've seen with N'gog recently, but it soon settles down and is brushed under the carpet. Only those who cheat week after week get tarnished for good, like Drogba for instance. Rightly or wrongly the actions of a lot of players is forgotten about very quickly, especially in games where 99% of football fans aren't arsed about the result.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37326.msg993586#msg993586 date=1258741583]
We'll have to agree to differ.

There's always a brief media furore, as we've seen with N'gog recently, but it soon settles down and is brushed under the carpet. Only those who cheat week after week get tarnished for good, like Drogba for instance. Rightly or wrongly the actions of a lot of players is forgotten about very quickly, especially in games where 99% of football fans aren't arsed about the result.

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You've just described my Sunday league game. Not a playoff to get into the biggest tournament in the world.

That's my point... You assume that because you 1) don't care and 2) are happy with the outcome, that nobody else cares. You're wrong mate.
 
I think Trapattoni must have left a floater in a FIFA HQ toilet because this is not the first time he's bore the brunt of poor officiating...the match between Italy and South Korea during the World Cup in 2002 contained some of the worst refereeing i've ever seen in a match. So Poor the Trap...

...And for those feeling sorry for Henry, just look at his repentance and remorse @5.40.

France 1-1 Rep of Ireland (2-1 agg) (Full Highlights) (World Cup Qualifer 2010) (18/11/09)
 
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[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37326.msg993586#msg993586 date=1258741583]
We'll have to agree to differ.

There's always a brief media furore, as we've seen with N'gog recently, but it soon settles down and is brushed under the carpet. Only those who cheat week after week get tarnished for good, like Drogba for instance. Rightly or wrongly the actions of a lot of players is forgotten about very quickly, especially in games where 99% of football fans aren't arsed about the result.

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You've just described my Sunday league game. Not a playoff to get into the biggest tournament in the world.

That's my point... You assume that because you 1) don't care and 2) are happy with the outcome, that nobody else cares. You're wrong mate.
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No I haven't & I've never said I was happy with the outcome. You're just bias and still angry at the result, and trying to grab some small consolation from the idea of Henry being tarnished for good, which he won't be.

If you're not from Ireland or France - why would anyone give a fuck? I didn't give a toss about Algeria beating Egypt or New Zealand scraping through the finals. The stakes maybe high but it's not a high profile game.

To anyone else it's just another just another World Cup without Ireland.
 
[quote author=Squiggles link=topic=37326.msg993581#msg993581 date=1258740893]
I'm sorry, I just don't think anyone cares to be honest.

If there wasn't 10+ Irish posters on here, I doubt there even would have been a match thread.

Given the pleasure the Irish take at the failure of the English, you'll forgive me for not being up in arms.
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