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Hendersons gait and injuries

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Yes, but doesn't anyone else think he runs funny? I mean isn't that like a thing for professional players?
 
Yes, but doesn't anyone else think he runs funny? I mean isn't that like a thing for professional players?

I think people should actually take that seriously given Henderson has plantar fasciitis on one side and a broken bone on the other.
 
I highely doubt breaking the 5th metatarsal has anything to do with how he runs though.

And I'd check if he has had any injuries earlier like that heel injury before connecting the two.
 
I highely doubt breaking the 5th metatarsal has anything to do with how he runs though.

And I'd check if he has had any injuries earlier like that heel injury before connecting the two.

How about you take the word of a specialist in the area?
5th metatarsal fractures have been quite common among elite soccer players in the English Premier League over the past five years. Do you have any thoughts why this injury seems more prevalent in this group?

"We must distinguish between the acute traumatic fracture (let us call this a Jones type fracture at the high risk zone of the metatarsal) and one that results from chronic repetitive fatigue (a typical stress fracture). The two fractures need to be approached differently.

"Why there has been a surge of these fractures in professional sports over the past decade is puzzling, since we have witnessed the same increased prevalence in the United States with all type of sports which involve pivoting, acceleration and deceleration. To some extent this may have something to do with the type of shoewear and the playing surface, but ultimately, in soccer, it is the lower leg body shape and the alignment of the leg and the foot which is the problem.

"I am sure that you have observed that many soccer players are slightly bow legged. This creates enormous stress on the outside of the foot and ankle. This is a simple fact of mechanics. If you imagine a bow leg, and you turn the foot inwards, there is naturally an increased stress on the outside of the foot, which in this instance means an increased stress on the 5th metatarsal. The back of the foot moves inward (inversion) and outward (eversion), and this occurs predominantly through the heel (the subtalar) joint. If the subtalar joint is stiff, then there is an even further decreased capacity for the foot to adapt on uneven ground surfaces, and an increased risk of stress fracture is present.
 
I've never observed that football players are slightly bow legged.


Beckham always looked like a pig was escaping between his legs. I've always thought that his crossing technique benefitted from the curvature in his legs. Cruyff not only had bow legs but also a weird pelvis - almost 'feminine' in angle - that made the 'Cruyff turn' impossible for most other people to do. If you look at how he did it, it's with his whole body twisting in such a way it would tear muscles in most other players. When it's copied today, players just move the legs, and usually just the lower legs, it's nothing like his actual move. I'm sure individual physical elements have a role to play in technique, although coaches, requiring the assumption of uniformity to bolster their sense of being able to generalise, prefer to ignore this entirely.

Sometimes the physical idiosyncracies work the other way and undermine an otherwise pefectly technically proficient player, and maybe Hendo is one of those. I don't think his gait, as such, would cause the problems he currently has, but it'd be well worth exploiting the facilities at the club to analyse just what's going on.

As for Studge, it seems a delicate balance is needed between monitoring him really carefully and not feeding his anxiety at a time when he should be blocking out the injury ordeal he's come through. If Gerrard's book is any guide, he's a genuinely neurotic character who is rarely free from doubt about his physical well-being, so he needs plenty of positivity around him whilst, more discreetly, the staff keep checking on how he's actually coping from game to game. We can't afford to be taken by surprise again.
 
Beckham broke the second metatarsal and it was caused by a two footed tackle.
Rooney has had this injury 3 times. All tackles. Andrade, Ferreira and Duberry.

Gerrard suffered the same injury in 2004. His foot got caught as he tried to turn.
So to suggest Henderson got it from how he "runs" or his gait is veeery speculative at best.



The breaking of a metatarsal seems to be increasingly common among England's top stars.

There are many theories being put forward to explain why so many players have fallen foul over the last few years.

Some believe it is the number of games played at the top level, some say training is more intensive, and others argue that training on artifical surfaces has a higher impact the body.

Evolving designs of boots have also come into question.

Many boots are now much lighter and more flexible, with a variety of new studs and blades available.
Some suggest that players' feet are less protected and supported.
 
I've pulled this out of the other thread.

Essentially because it was Ferguson said Hendersons runs from his knees and that could cause him problems down the line - Hansern and others can't admit that their might actually be something in this.

I've already posted an orthopaedic experts views taken from the physioroom website and posted them but Hansern clearly knows better.
 
Steve Ovett 'ran funny' compared to most other top runners. Didn't do him any harm. I fear Hendo's current problems will cause Ginsoak's fans to hail him as a genius for analysing gaits, but his observations were about as incisive as the average punter on that subject. There are so many variables I don't think 'running funny' as such is necessarily indicative of anything other than running funny.
 
Okay.

So there's two ways this injury can happen, an acute traumatic incident causing the fracture - which would come from a one off incident Henderson had in training (which has never been mentioned anywhere as far I can tell)

Or as a stress fracture, which is a result of chronic repetitive fatigue. Which is something that happens when your biomechanics are not great.

So we have a player in Henderson who has two injuries that are probably the result of bad biomechanics, yet were refusing to believe that could be the case because Ferguson called it.
 
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If he ran in a different way, the stress will just shift to a different part of his leg, his ankles, or knees, or hips. It's unavoidable. He has to move one way or another, so it's going to generate stresses in his bones and tissue. He could wear heavy duty supports to restrict movement, but then he'll end up playing like Lucas. I would opt for screwing metal supports into his bones, like Wolverine. That would solve the problem.
 
Players who don't have a silly run also have stress injuries....

I've posted the exact quote because you and others seem to think a funny run was mentioned. Or that it was some observation by Ferguson himself.

I actually can't believe how closed minded and stupid people are on this.
 
No, we're not 'refusing to believe it,' we're just noting there's insufficient empirical evidence to be sure what the cause is. Give my regards to the seventeeth century.

So you're just wilfully ignorant then.

Great
 
Henderson runs non-stop for most of the match.

This is possibly just as much of a reason as any other.

Michael Johnson, he of 400 metre fame, used to run on tracks (a bit more firm than football pitches) with a very strange gait. Did he complain about stress injuries?

Anyway, if it is his gait causing the problems, it shouldn't become too bad a problem until we don't need him anymore...
 
So you're just wilfully ignorant then.

Great

No, I'll write this very slowly so you can understand it, seeing as you're being a patronising arse. What I said was we are disinclined to treat speculation as conclusive fact simply because you want us to. That is standard for the past three hundred odd years, you fucking idiot.
 
No, I'll write this very slowly so you can understand it, seeing as you're being a patronising arse. What I said was we are disinclined to treat speculation as conclusive fact simply because you want us to. That is standard for the past three hundred odd years, you fucking idiot.

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You can't ignore biomechanics. It's simple physics, so maybe, just maybe, there's something in it. Having said that, every patient on the doctors table has to be treated very individually, so you can't just make a generalised statement about his kinda gait and his injuries. If his specialist and physio say it, then yeh, I'll buy it.
 
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