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By David Maddock
Liverpool's owners have offered a revealing insight into the challenge they face in turning the club around, claiming it is a far greater task “than any supporter could know”.
And John W Henry, the man presented with the task of making the Reds great again, summed up the size of the problem by suggesting it is like trying to turn an ocean liner around.
When principal owner Henry and business partner Tom Werner looked into the books before committing to buy the Anfield institution, they revealed they were almost ready to be put in one themselves!
“We had done due diligence and looked at the financial situation, and it began to dawn on us the extent of the issues,” he explained.
“We had a lack of depth in the squad and some really high payrolls. We also had issues with the age of the players and so forth.
"We knew it was going to be very difficult with the player contracts and the youth system.
“Tom and I went for a long walk and the further we went into it, the more sobered we were.”
Or to put it another way, according to Werner: “Then we had a stiff drink!”
The upshot was, they decided to go ahead with the purchase, despite massive reservations about the challenge they had taken on.
Only now, two years into their reign, have the owners felt comfortable enough with the direction they are now taking at Anfield, to speak so honestly about the problems they faced, and will continue to face.
New manager Brendan Rodgers has revealed some of the problems with playing staff on massive salaries that make them so difficult to shift, and a new financial reality which means there is no cash cow to keep milking for yet more transfer money.

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Yet in a revealing interview with the Mirror from their Boston base, both owners have made clear the extent of the problems to fans still skeptical after the disasters of the previous American regime at Anfield.
“We had to decide whether we really wanted to take this on because we knew this was a huge challenge, much larger than any supporter could know,” Henry explained with a trace of a wry smile.
“The perfect analogy is that the club is like an ocean liner... and you can’t turn an ocean liner around like you can a speedboat.
“You could say it was a bigger challenge than buying the Red Sox.
"When you look back from this vantage point: the rivalry between Liverpool and Manchester United - Liverpool isn’t holding up its side of the rivalry.
“That is the way it was with the Red Sox and the New York Yankees - the Yankees were just completely dominant when we arrived here 11 years ago.
"We knew we could never be on an equal footing financially with The Yankees. But we had to do everything in our power to get on a level footing with them on the playing field. That was a tremendous challenge.
"As we started to close the gap, they built a new stadium. That was a quantum leap forward.
"This is an even bigger challenge.”
While that may seem a hugely pessimistic viewpoint, at least Liverpool’s owners have a track record in turning ocean liners around, as they did with the Red Sox when they ended the Yankees’ dominance to win a first World Series since 1918.
Werner knows the same can’t happen overnight in the harsh financial reality of the Premier League, but he is quietly confident he and Henry have now learned enough after a crash course in football to deliver future success.
“I don’t know how long it will take to really compete, I just know we are behind - but we are on it,” he explained.
“Do we feel that it is possible to get on a level with those clubs? Absolutely.
"Can we close that gap and compete at the very highest level? Absolutely.
“When we came, it was a great time of instability. People have talked about this idea of virtuous circles. The stronger we are commercially, the stronger this club can be.
"I think already we have made great strides. We are very aggressive in how to raise the revenues commercially. We are working on stadium solutions because we know that match day revenues have to increase.
"This has been an evolutionary process.
“Everyone now is singing from the same hymn sheet.
"I think that we are moving in the right direction. I think that our fans see that we are on the job and, hopefully, they will see improvement this season.”

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Anfield rap: Werner says all at Liverpool are singing the same tune now
John Powell


There are cynics though, who say the lack of progress on a stadium solution points to a wider lack of ambition from the owners.
That has even aroused suspicion from some that they are merely addressing fundamental financial burdens to make it easier to sell should they opt to cut and run.
Yet when asked that question outright, the Americans are both adamant there will be no cutting and running from their side.
“I know there has been some speculation about us maybe selling up to make a quick profit. We read that, but we are here for the long run - absolutely,” Werner responded emphatically.
And in perhaps the most positive message to the fans as they address the task of making Liverpool great again, Henry had one final thing to say on the subject:
“We are just getting started.”
 
So much better than H and G.

But those two really set-us back after the leap forward of 2005.
 
Their grasp of public relations is significantly better than the previous american incumbents.
 
They've made a few clumsy errors, and they're not just in it as benign benefactors offering large sums of money on a capricious whim, but I think they're here for the long-term, I think they're doing a decent job and I think they'll prove to be decent owners in the coming years.

They need to be sure to offer investment in the team and stadium, out of their own pockets if necessary, in the short term to ensure a successful transition to money making success in the long term.
 
That whole piece reads like a deliberate attempt to soften us up for something we won't like.

I hope it's not Danny.
 
While the stadium issue is still a bit of a concern, though nobody is building anything right now so it is understandable, I think it is clear to see how we are heading in the right direction. Our profile has been raised significantly, as has our commercial interests and sponsorships, the wage bill is being reduced, our squad quality is gradually increasing, and our youth development is building on previous reigns and is now starting to look like it's producing some of the most promising youngsters in years. All in all, things are looking good.
 
Didn't they already write that idea off? I'm sure after months of looking into it they said it doesn't represent very good value considering the price of a new built stadium, and that we'd look to build a new ground with investment partners instead?
 
Didn't they already write that idea off? I'm sure after months of looking into it they said it doesn't represent very good value considering the price of a new built stadium, and that we'd look to build a new ground with investment partners instead?

They've done a turnaround. Not announced yet but the redevelopment plans have been shown to anfield residents, they're trying to get full agreement of the residents they need to move before they announce it.

Naming rights will be given to the newly redeveloped anfield, Henry as good as admitted it in that article last week, 'if they find a suitable partner'.
 
Ah, I see, I can't say I'm overly fond of that idea. What would it bring? An extra 8k seats? And we'd be branded, for the sake of those 8k seats :/
 
They were the numbers getting banded about when they first started looking (somewhere in the region of 52-56k capacity once done), so I've gone for the, slightly, lower end of their projections.

Edit, 16k eh? A lot more like it, if we could get up to about the 60k mark then it would be worth it (assuming it isn't something daft like 20 year naming rights).
 
Pizza Hut don't sell hot dogs

They do have unlimited salad though.

Cos that's what everyone goes to pizza hut for.

Last time I went to burger king I asked for an extra large bacon double cheeseburger meal, with extra large fries & an extra large coke. The girl behind the counter then said 'would you like to change your fries for salad?' I laughed. A lot. Then I asked if anyone actually did that, she replied, 'not once, no'.
 
burger king do, they just demand that you take it in ice cream form, which is fair enough really, ive always been worried that chocolate bars were slightly too healthy
 
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