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French National Team - New Low

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Apparently Ribery and the four other gang leaders accused Gourcuff of being a 'homo' since he didn't go to the strip club with them, listens to opera, etc. This is the latest development... It's getting very embarrassing now. He's had some prominent girlfriends, so I don't think he is one, but apparently he doesn't level up to Ribery's view of true manhood.

GOURCUFF: VICTIM OF HOMOPHOBIA ACCORDING TO PIERRE MÉNÈS

On July 6th, Pierre Ménès, a renowned sports columnist famous for his incomparable outspokenness, was promoting his new book Carton rouge pour les Bleus (Red Card for Les Bleus) on French national radio France Info, and shared his analysis of the French national football team in South Africa.

Excerpts:

France Info: You have many friends among the players. What did they tell you over the phone that can be said here?

Pierre Ménès: That those who spoke had lied. That the atmosphere was dreadful. That the way Yoann Gourcuff was treated was very close to racism, or even homophobia, which is very surprising for a guy who is not gay. It is already unbearable when you’re gay, but then when you’re not, it’s even more incomprehensible. That there was a total divorce between Domenech and the rest of the team. There are players that are very, very marked.

France Info: Why doesn’t it come out? Why do we only hear the clan of leaders speak?

PM: I think Gourcuff, from the way he handled his PR, comes out of this World Cup with increased stature (…) so it’s in his best interest to be silent, because the future belongs to him.

A few days earlier, on June 22nd, another journalist, Christophe Hondelatte, had already mentioned this supposed homophobia from which Gourcuff would have suffered in the French team, in his daily broadcast on another French national radio, RTL. In an interview with former football player and world champion Vikash Dhorasoo, he suggested more or less explicitly what he seemed to know:

Vikash Dhorasoo: (…) We exclude him [Yoann Courcuff], because he’s different.

Christophe Hondelatte: (…) When you say that he’s a little different, when someone’s elegant people say that “he isn’t marriedâ€, you think that this may have affected his relationship with the rest of the group?

VD: Yes. There is too much difference in him. He’s handsome, he’s white, he’s certainly not a Muslim, he plays very good, he talks football very well, his father is a coach…

CH: And he doesn’t go around telling how many chicks he screwed the night before?

VD: I don’t know. I wouldn’t go that far, but either way there are many differences and that may have been a problem sometime.

“France’s football team has put us to shame. Not because of the unprecedented defeat in football. But because of the moral defeat they performedâ€, “One of the most gifted football players of his generation has been the subject of repeated intimidation attempts from his co-workers (…) Many newspaper articles have reported the harassment inflicted on Yoann Gourcuff within the French football team (…).

Journalists who reported these tensions often did not mention the causes (…) It seems that Yoann Gourcuff comes across – wrongly or rightly – as gay, and that this is a serious problem for some of his teammates. If these allegations are true, the fate of Yoann Gourcuff is worrying: not only the football player would be a victim of the intolerance of his colleagues, but the rules of the environment in which he works his way would force him to become a silent victimâ€.

Many blogs suggested similar interpretations and the suspicion of homophobia begins to weigh heavily on the French team.

And from this same angle, we can only think back to certain statements made during these last weeks and search out a new interpretation, completed by this new information.

“IT GOES BEYOND THE FRAME OF FOOTBALLâ€

Most notably, Christian Gourcuff, Yoann’s father and manager of FC Lorient: “In the French national team, in the case of Yoann, it goes beyond the frame of football,†he said, without further statement, in an interview for Le 10 Sport’s website.

But we also remember Roselyne Bachelot, French Minister for Health and Sports, who told the National Assembly last June 22nd: “I can only notice the disaster with a team of immature gang-leaders that command scared kids, a helpless coach without authority (…)â€.

Or French 1998 World Champion Bixente Lizarazu, on June 19th, in his RTL column: “Yoann Gourcuff is somewhat the symbol of a scapegoat for the team. He was the victim of the bullies from the French team, or in any case of the players, of the senior players who have more influence and who I believe made him leave the team for the wrong reasons.

He makes me think of this kid at school who is a little too good a student, and therefore will be made fun of all the timeâ€. I regret that. (…) I sense him high-spirited, with a very good mentality. I think he’s intelligent and I’m very interested in seeing what Laurent Blanc will do with him in the future French team. We will be able to compare, because he should be protected, just as Zinedine Zidane was. We should remember that when Zinedine Zidane arrived, he was as shy as Yoann Gourcuffâ€.

Rough translation from another article...

Evra, Gallas, Anelka and Ribery

"We told our source who wished to remain anonymous for obvious reasons . All four players had to put a hard slap behind the head Gourcuff into the wall of the bus each time he passed them in the aisle of the bus. One day, Evra went further than usual and Gourcuff said . While the tone rising between the two players ,

Diarra has intervened and has served on Evra that if he wanted to do Gourcuff , he would first have to do him. On this , Ribery , Anelka and Gallas rose to show their support for Evra, while Bordeaux Carrasso and Planus have done the same to show support for their teammates in club. It was very tense .
 
Bloody hell, what a bunch of twats. Who'd have guessed players as experienced as Ribery, Anelka, Gallas and Evra would be so macho and childish?

It might be exaggerated, of course, but still...
 
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=40960.msg1135167#msg1135167 date=1279025607]
These cunts should be dropped permanently.
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Fo sho! Utterly disgusting behaviour. Dhorasoo's comments are embarrassing using race and religion as a negative.
 
This brings a whole new meaning to the term 'Gaelic'. Besides, the French are renowned for bending over and taking it up the shitpipe.
 
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[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=40960.msg1135167#msg1135167 date=1279025607]
These cunts should be dropped permanently.
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Fo sho! Utterly disgusting behaviour. Dhorasoo's comments are embarrassing using race and religion as a negative.
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They're also ironic in a sad kind of way, given that Dhorasoo himself is of Indian origin.
 
[quote author=Loch Ness Monster link=topic=40960.msg1135177#msg1135177 date=1279026138]
This brings a whole new meaning to the term 'Gaelic'. Besides, the French are renowned for bending over and taking it up the shitpipe.
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Poor old Archbishop Croke willl be turning in his grave at the thought of what Gaelic Games has become!
 
[quote author=Peatcheo link=topic=40960.msg1135175#msg1135175 date=1279026120]
[quote author=SaintGeorge67 link=topic=40960.msg1135167#msg1135167 date=1279025607]
These cunts should be dropped permanently.
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Fo sho! Utterly disgusting behaviour. Dhorasoo's comments are embarrassing using race and religion as a negative.
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I think Dhorasoo's comments have been mistranslated or taken out of context. He was defending Gourcuff, not having a go at him.

From Wiki: 'He has spoken out against bigotry and in 2003 he started actively supporting Paris Foot Gay, a football club which combats homophobia and other discrimination in the sport.[5] Dhorasoo also works actively to fight poverty in countries such as Mauritius and has established several programs for it.'
 
I think this bit - 'We exclude him [Yoann Courcuff], because he’s different.' - was translated from the phrase 'On l'exclu parce qu'il est différent'. Which should be translated: 'He's excluded because he's different.'

'On' can mean we in French, but it can also mean 'one' or 'they'.

OK, class dismissed...
 
Strikes me as a little convenient that the football disaster which was the french national team should be blamed on some wicked followers of Allah... I dont buy it myself.... I really dont see Ribery finding his religion that important considering his general behaviour, as for the homophobia and bullying of Gourcuff, it doesnt sound very French.

It's a relief in some ways because their scandalously bad display was just about good enough to take our minds of our pathetic and expensive shite.
 
Thats made me feel a bit shit inside.
Horrible stuff. They really should recieve lifetime bans from the french FA.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40960.msg1135194#msg1135194 date=1279027831]
Thats made me feel a bit shit inside.
Horrible stuff. They really should recieve lifetime bans from the french FA.
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Agreed. If true, they should never put on the shirt again and be excluded from all activity in French football.

FIFA should also take action.
 
This is absolutely disgusting.

... I mean it was funny as fuck when Fowler had a go at Le Saux

But yeah, this is terrible.
 
[quote author=crump link=topic=40960.msg1135216#msg1135216 date=1279029227]
This is absolutely disgusting.

... I mean it was funny as fuck when Fowler had a go at Le Saux

But yeah, this is terrible.
[/quote]Fowler and Le Seaux werent team mates.
 
Gallas, Evra, Anelka and Ribery were *racist* towards Gourcuff?

Right, I know Ribery is an ugly, deformed cunt with a face like a bucketful of melted lego, but he is pretty clearly white.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40960.msg1135220#msg1135220 date=1279029497]
[quote author=crump link=topic=40960.msg1135216#msg1135216 date=1279029227]
This is absolutely disgusting.

... I mean it was funny as fuck when Fowler had a go at Le Saux

But yeah, this is terrible.
[/quote]Fowler and Le Seaux werent team mates.
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And it was funny as fuck.
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40960.msg1135222#msg1135222 date=1279029575]
Gallas, Evra, Anelka and Ribery were *racist* towards Gourcuff?

Right, I know Ribery is an ugly, deformed cunt with a face like a bucketful of melted lego, but he is pretty clearly white.
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He's of Algerian descent, I think? Is he?
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40960.msg1135224#msg1135224 date=1279029645]
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40960.msg1135220#msg1135220 date=1279029497]
[quote author=crump link=topic=40960.msg1135216#msg1135216 date=1279029227]
This is absolutely disgusting.

... I mean it was funny as fuck when Fowler had a go at Le Saux

But yeah, this is terrible.
[/quote]Fowler and Le Seaux werent team mates.
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And it was funny as fuck.
[/quote]Yup. The fucking forearm smash wasnt too clever.
 
[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40960.msg1135225#msg1135225 date=1279029653]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40960.msg1135222#msg1135222 date=1279029575]
Gallas, Evra, Anelka and Ribery were *racist* towards Gourcuff?

Right, I know Ribery is an ugly, deformed cunt with a face like a bucketful of melted lego, but he is pretty clearly white.
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He's of Algerian descent, I think? Is he?
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So he's black?

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?!!!!!?????

Why can't everyone just get along?

Or at least be obviously racist for obvious reasons.
 
[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=40960.msg1135220#msg1135220 date=1279029497]
[quote author=crump link=topic=40960.msg1135216#msg1135216 date=1279029227]
This is absolutely disgusting.

... I mean it was funny as fuck when Fowler had a go at Le Saux

But yeah, this is terrible.
[/quote]Fowler and Le Seaux werent team mates.
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Squad Selected For World Cup 2002 Qualifiers Against Germany (07.10.2000) and Finland (11.10.2000)
Seaman (Arsenal), Martyn (Leeds United), James (Aston Villa), P Neville (Manchester United), Le Saux (Chelsea), G Neville (Manchester United), Barry (Aston Villa), Adams (Arsenal), Keown (Arsenal), Southgate (Aston Villa), Ferdinand (West Ham United), Carragher (Liverpool), Ince (Middlesbrough), Dyer (Newcastle United), Wise (Chelsea), Beckham (Manchester United), Barmby (Liverpool), Scholes (Manchester United), McManaman (Real Madrid), J Cole (West Ham United), Parlour (Arsenal), Gerrard (Liverpool), Owen (Liverpool), A Cole (Manchester United), Phillips (Sunderland), Fowler (Liverpool), Heskey (Liverpool). Called up later: Sheringham, Brown
 
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[quote author=doctor_mac link=topic=40960.msg1135225#msg1135225 date=1279029653]
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40960.msg1135222#msg1135222 date=1279029575]
Gallas, Evra, Anelka and Ribery were *racist* towards Gourcuff?

Right, I know Ribery is an ugly, deformed cunt with a face like a bucketful of melted lego, but he is pretty clearly white.
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He's of Algerian descent, I think? Is he?
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So he's black?

Arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh?!!!!!?????

Why can't everyone just get along?

Or at least be obviously racist for obvious reasons.
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Actually he isn't black or Algerian. He's a muzzie convert though.

"Ribéry's wife, Wahiba, is a French national of Algerian descent and the couple have two daughters.[1][7] Ribéry is a convert to Islam and, following his conversion, adopted the name Bilal Yusuf Mohammed"
 
Actually he isn't black or Algerian. He's a muzzie convert though.

"Ribéry's wife, Wahiba, is a French national of Algerian descent and the couple have two daughters.[1][7] Ribéry is a convert to Islam and, following his conversion, adopted the name Bilal Yusuf Mohammed"

So not racism, then.

I'd have thought that Muzzies didn't really go in for prostitution and lapdancing? Maybe it's different in France, where everyone is a cunt anyway
 
[quote author=Brendan link=topic=40960.msg1135235#msg1135235 date=1279030322]
Actually he isn't black or Algerian. He's a muzzie convert though.

"Ribéry's wife, Wahiba, is a French national of Algerian descent and the couple have two daughters.[1][7] Ribéry is a convert to Islam and, following his conversion, adopted the name Bilal Yusuf Mohammed"

So not racism, then.

I'd have thought that Muzzies didn't really go in for prostitution and lapdancing? Maybe it's different in France, where everyone is a cunt anyway
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*nods*
 
Their observance of that rule can be a little, er, relaxed sometimes. The 9/11 bombers spent their last hours before the attacks drinking and whoring, to give just one example.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40960.msg1135243#msg1135243 date=1279030631]
Their observance of that rule can be a little, er, relaxed sometimes. The 9/11 bombers spent their last hours before the attacks drinking and whoring, to give just one example.
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That's what I'd do if I was about to crash a plane into a skyscraper.
 
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40960.msg1135243#msg1135243 date=1279030631]
Their observance of that rule can be a little, er, relaxed sometimes. The 9/11 bombers spent their last hours before the attacks drinking and whoring, to give just one example.
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Them guys went deep cover and had to fight hard against their principles to blend in.
 
[quote author=crump link=topic=40960.msg1135249#msg1135249 date=1279030757]
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=40960.msg1135243#msg1135243 date=1279030631]
Their observance of that rule can be a little, er, relaxed sometimes. The 9/11 bombers spent their last hours before the attacks drinking and whoring, to give just one example.
[/quote]

Them guys went deep cover and had to fight hard against their principles to blend in.
[/quote]HAHAHAHAHA I hope thats a joke.
 
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