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That's not gonna happen.
Matip can carry the new tall CB on his shoulder and be useful for once.
That will solve the height problem.
That will solve the height problem.
Grujic is what 6'4, height is a factor against some teams like Utd that are stocked with big units, but thats more an exception than a rule these days.
Said the guy who posted a total opposite viewpoint on the return of Clyne, who's played even less football in the last 12 months than Lallana.
I suppose he's always been shit now.
How could Lallana bother him when he doesn’t even watch us play?
Dunno where to begin, but lets start with Clyne performing better for us.
Or the fact that Clyne is a lot younger than Lallana.
And that Clyne is needed in a position we have two kids playing.
It's been weird if you think about it this season, last year Mane, Hendo, Lallana, and Milner were our better performers on a regular basis IMO...
This year Milner has been pretty much dropped as Robertson (and Moreno beforehand) were used at left back...
Hendo has not been anywhere near the form he showed during the better games last season probably due to injuries to his heel...
Mane has also lacked some of his former venom... even though he is still a killer...
Lallana who was by far one of our top players last season and I remember thinking during the early season whinge festival that we were lacking as a link player from midfield to attack... he's been basically out allllll season, and Clyne as well...
And having written all of that...
I think we are better than we were last season...
How the fuck did that happen???
This year Milner has been pretty much dropped as Robertson (and Moreno beforehand) were used at left back...
Hendo has not been anywhere near the form he showed during the better games last season probably due to injuries to his heel...
Mane has also lacked some of his former venom... even though he is still a killer...
Lallana who was by far one of our top players last season and I remember thinking during the early season whinge festival that we were lacking as a link player from midfield to attack... he's been basically out allllll season, and Clyne as well...
And having written all of that...
I think we are better than we were last season...
How the fuck did that happen???
I think I may have walked into a further argument drawn over from a thread I might not have read but...
Do you actually mean that Modo??
Why? I mean do you really think he's good? Remember that back in the day we basically paid Alexis Sanchez money for him. Has he been Alexis for us?
I guess we bought him to be average, just like Henderson.
Personally, I've put Lallana in the same bracket as Downing.
Expectation was greater than reality.
Though I didn't expect jack shit from any of them.
There are a few things I disagree with there Modo...
To compare one of last seasons best players with Downing is patently ridiculous, and as far I'm aware Lallana isn't on 300,000 quid a week and he didn't cost as much as Alexis especially if you bare in mind Mkhitaryan. Do you think we buy players to be average?? That doesn't sound very likely to me... a very unusual plan that...
I wasn't aware I was the only poster who considers Lallana to be a really good player when fit and on form... strange that...
Opinions and arseholes eh...
Lallana to LFC , 25 mill
Sanchez to Arsenal, 31.7 million
Not that much of a difference.
When is Lallana fit and on form? Has he fulfilled his expectation? Do you think he will?
It doesn't seem to matter what anyone says does it Modo, you seem to have the extremely negative narrative that refuses to change, even when it is patently incorrect and insane nonsense. I will make one last attempt to try and express a different side though... see if you can follow it...
- United got Sanchez ONLY because he had sixth months remaining on his contract and gave more money than we did for Lallana and also threw in another player who in today's market could have been sold for big cash... Oh and they are paying him fucking huge wages...
- I might also add that Sanchez has hardly been that great since he got there has he.... and he is 30 years old... but yes when playing well a really great player, and yes better than Lallana.
- Lallana was pretty much fit and on form throughout last season wasn't he and in comparing him to Downing you truly are revealing a complete and utter lack of knowledge of the game and, in my opinion, pretty much slandering Lallana. Lallana was one of our best players on numerous occasions last season, something Downing could never ever claim. EVER.
- I, like everyone else, am also upset we went out of the FA cup but by the same token, I much prefer being in the CL because it's obviously the better more prestigious competition. Ask yourself this Modo, IF you offered a swap to United for their place in the FA cup for ours in the CL would they swap?
We were nowhere near competing so we paid a premium for a decent player
Now it's inverse. Arse would be paying premium for average whole we can get top tier
I get his point, but he's also overlooking the London vibe
Both originally wingers. The only difference is that one of them is world class.
Which player would you say is like Lallana?
Yeah we couldn't get Sanchez, but that's not the point, my point is Lallana based on the fee, hasn't been what we expected.
So all this talk about form, or on his best day....WHEN???!!!
He's been good in patches. That's all I can say.
No one can tell me that we expected what we got from him. Personally, I think he should have been a Coutinho, Mane, Salah, Firmino for us, in terms of consistency.
Why isn't he starting?
Can you honestly tell me that we should stick Lallana at the tip of the midfield triangle for next season and we're sorted. Like forget the Draxler and Gotetzkas of this world?
Fuck outta here...
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1) yeah, I expected more from lallana, but few players bought in to klopps ideology more than him. When he's fully fit he's a massive asset and can be the difference in a game, directly or indirectly.
2) he's not starting because he's been injured and not fully fit. getting back to full speed in a klopp side after months out isn't straight forward. Even klopp said we rushed him back earlier in the year.
3) anyone who doesn't want better is lying. But I don't think anyone has said that. So that's a straw man argument right there
In fact, your whole argument is
Why should we compare him to Sanchez? We wanted both, didnt we?
I've never been Lallana's biggest fan, and was always of the opinion that we overpaid and overrated him. And yes, this season has been an injury-ravaged non-entity for him.
But you'd have to be fucking deranged to not acknowledge that he had a good season in 2016/17, and was an important player; he scored 8 league goals from midfield too.
That was his best season for us, and it's weird to pretend it never happened. Yeah he was still inconsistent at times, yeah he wasn't at that level before, yeah he might not get there again, but it DID happen.
So when will your (not only you) incessant patience for him end? Cause he turns 30 in two months. Unless next season finally is going to be his breakthrough season.
The timeline and the price. I'm looking at what Sanchez has given them and what Lallana has given us.
What about last season? Are you entirely ignoring that?
He wants Klopp out, to be replace by Benítez, and doesn’t even watch us play.
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