Rafa was sacked because the board felt that he wasn’t going to get us out of the mess he’d helped get us into.
Not because he'd finished 5th (or 7th rather) the season before.
Yes, I know, Neil.
That wasn’t Rafa’s fault. None of it.
It was the media who’d painted a horrid picture of Rafa, it’s not as if he used them to his own advantage when it suited him.
It was the Yanks fault who’d cut the funds for Rafa, it’s not as if he’d used the funds badly in buying shit players.
Yes, Neil..I know that
i.muchofthefundswererecouped/
ii.hedidntgethisfirsttargets/
iii.insertreasonhere
Those shit players he bought weren’t really bought by him, they were foisted upon him by the dastardly Parry and Co.
Right.
In addition, the players all let him down; it’s not as if he pushed out players he didn’t like, or played them in wrong positions or replaced good players with worse ones (how are we coming with the Spider Riise-rafa Theorem by the way?)
He did many good things for us, and his record will always be in credit.
But let’s not pretend there weren’t good reasons at the time to remove Rafa.
Would Rafa have been as bad as Hodgson?
Of course not.
But Rafa wasn’t going to fix the problems, and he’d continue to blame everyone but himself for the problems we had.
I’ll tell you this though; I’m terrified by the possible implications had Rafa been in charge whilst the legal shenanigans were going on.
Do you think he’d have stayed out of it?
Or do you think he’d have gotten involved and gone along with any position which strengthened his hand?
I also have a very strong suspicion that the presence of an entrenched obstinate manager would have put paid to any interest by potential buyers, particularly one like NESV which seems to have an extremely hands-on approach to sports management.
HOw do you think Rafa would have reacted to the comments made by John Henry regarding our transfers over the past few ytears?
Exactly.
The point is that Rafa was NOT sacked as a form of punishment, he was sacked because he'd helped get us into a mess...and many believed that not only would he have NOT fixed things, he mighthave made it worse.
NOw, I realise that this is a Rafa thread, and I've no doubt that there'll be some to take offence to this and my views.
Feel free to condemn my views, I'm past caring.
But at least people can choose to read them or not and the other threads can stay free.
Enjoy.
On a personal note, I thin k he was a grat manager, and I do miss him.
He was a very likeable perswon, and he level of depth he felt for this club was genuine.
In 2007 or 2008, I was one such poster who continually spoke out against sacking him because I was of the view that we couldnt have sacked him without getting in someone better.
Check my posts if anyone doesnt believe me.
But I do think that by 2010, he had to go..and we had to hope his replacement could fix things.
The fact that he hasnt, and probably wont, does NOT mean it was a mistake to sack him.
Not because he'd finished 5th (or 7th rather) the season before.
Yes, I know, Neil.
That wasn’t Rafa’s fault. None of it.
It was the media who’d painted a horrid picture of Rafa, it’s not as if he used them to his own advantage when it suited him.
It was the Yanks fault who’d cut the funds for Rafa, it’s not as if he’d used the funds badly in buying shit players.
Yes, Neil..I know that
i.muchofthefundswererecouped/
ii.hedidntgethisfirsttargets/
iii.insertreasonhere
Those shit players he bought weren’t really bought by him, they were foisted upon him by the dastardly Parry and Co.
Right.
In addition, the players all let him down; it’s not as if he pushed out players he didn’t like, or played them in wrong positions or replaced good players with worse ones (how are we coming with the Spider Riise-rafa Theorem by the way?)
He did many good things for us, and his record will always be in credit.
But let’s not pretend there weren’t good reasons at the time to remove Rafa.
Would Rafa have been as bad as Hodgson?
Of course not.
But Rafa wasn’t going to fix the problems, and he’d continue to blame everyone but himself for the problems we had.
I’ll tell you this though; I’m terrified by the possible implications had Rafa been in charge whilst the legal shenanigans were going on.
Do you think he’d have stayed out of it?
Or do you think he’d have gotten involved and gone along with any position which strengthened his hand?
I also have a very strong suspicion that the presence of an entrenched obstinate manager would have put paid to any interest by potential buyers, particularly one like NESV which seems to have an extremely hands-on approach to sports management.
HOw do you think Rafa would have reacted to the comments made by John Henry regarding our transfers over the past few ytears?
Exactly.
The point is that Rafa was NOT sacked as a form of punishment, he was sacked because he'd helped get us into a mess...and many believed that not only would he have NOT fixed things, he mighthave made it worse.
NOw, I realise that this is a Rafa thread, and I've no doubt that there'll be some to take offence to this and my views.
Feel free to condemn my views, I'm past caring.
But at least people can choose to read them or not and the other threads can stay free.
Enjoy.
On a personal note, I thin k he was a grat manager, and I do miss him.
He was a very likeable perswon, and he level of depth he felt for this club was genuine.
In 2007 or 2008, I was one such poster who continually spoke out against sacking him because I was of the view that we couldnt have sacked him without getting in someone better.
Check my posts if anyone doesnt believe me.
But I do think that by 2010, he had to go..and we had to hope his replacement could fix things.
The fact that he hasnt, and probably wont, does NOT mean it was a mistake to sack him.