For fucks sake. Hodgson's flipchart
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here's the mail, I can't vouch for anything as I'm drunk and stupid
• The flipchart from the players meeting is 100% genuine – it wasn’t in a Newcastle hotel as it was here before they left.
• Someone who witnessed the meeting said it was the most amateurish team meeting they have been in ever.
• Kelly spent his time swearing and urging Kyriagos and Skrtel to ‘rough up’ Andy Carroll – the players are used to more detailed information such as which foot he favours etc. The swearing, as fackin this and fackin that, doesn’t go down well in a professional environment with the players
• Before the Blackpool game the scouts reports (the guys who go and watch the opposition) all outlined that if you stop Charlie Adam then you stop Blackpool – he needs time and space to dictate the play and he pulls the strings for the Blackpool front 3 – Roy basically ignored them and in the briefing meetings when he was advised to close down Adams he said ‘Why? My teams don’t do that’. He then went out with his regimented 4-4-2 and wondered why Blackpool out passed us and destroyed us in the final third of the pitch.
• Roy was presented with scouting reports of recent Newcastle performances in a meeting with scouts and Damian Commolli (oh and the swearing big, old, fat cockney Kelly). Roy actually commented that he had never seen reports with so much detail and specific information about each of the opposition players and how they played. But then said ‘But what do you want me to do with them?’
• The reports started off by highlighting how the Newcastle full backs play higher up the pitch and leave spaces in behind them to exploit. Roy said ‘so what’. It was suggested to him that the wide players may wish to get men and the ball in that area and look to get crosses in to the box – ‘We don’t play that way!’
• They showed how Newcastle launch attacks from the high up fullbacks aiming diagonal balls into Carroll. Roy was urged to get his wide men to push on the full backs and not allow them the time to get their arrowed balls into Carroll – We don’t play that way!’
• At this point Commolli quietly urged the scouts to leave it and not push it any further.
• Hodgson and Kelly have built up a serious and nasty hatred for Torres and Reina – it has all come one way but has now started to return from the Spaniards.
• Mike Kelly spends his time slating the players and doesn’t have a good word to say about any of them
Hodgson is feeling that he is not getting anywhere near the credit he should be 'for guiding this squad so easily through the Europa League'.
He has tactically took a group of young players and also rans and sailed through against full strength sides.
'Facking ell, facking ell - no one is giving me the credit I deserve for the European efforts'
He is also not happy that John Henry is in many discussions with Commolli and not Roy.
Big arguments between staff brought in by Hodgson and those already at the club about footballing philosophys.
Ex Fulham coach on the virtues of their methods and Liverpool coaches desperately trying to tell them 'but we are not Fulham'
• The flipchart from the players meeting is 100% genuine – it wasn’t in a Newcastle hotel as it was here before they left.
• Someone who witnessed the meeting said it was the most amateurish team meeting they have been in ever.
• Kelly spent his time swearing and urging Kyriagos and Skrtel to ‘rough up’ Andy Carroll – the players are used to more detailed information such as which foot he favours etc. The swearing, as fackin this and fackin that, doesn’t go down well in a professional environment with the players
• Before the Blackpool game the scouts reports (the guys who go and watch the opposition) all outlined that if you stop Charlie Adam then you stop Blackpool – he needs time and space to dictate the play and he pulls the strings for the Blackpool front 3 – Roy basically ignored them and in the briefing meetings when he was advised to close down Adams he said ‘Why? My teams don’t do that’. He then went out with his regimented 4-4-2 and wondered why Blackpool out passed us and destroyed us in the final third of the pitch.
• Roy was presented with scouting reports of recent Newcastle performances in a meeting with scouts and Damian Commolli (oh and the swearing big, old, fat cockney Kelly). Roy actually commented that he had never seen reports with so much detail and specific information about each of the opposition players and how they played. But then said ‘But what do you want me to do with them?’
• The reports started off by highlighting how the Newcastle full backs play higher up the pitch and leave spaces in behind them to exploit. Roy said ‘so what’. It was suggested to him that the wide players may wish to get men and the ball in that area and look to get crosses in to the box – ‘We don’t play that way!’
• They showed how Newcastle launch attacks from the high up fullbacks aiming diagonal balls into Carroll. Roy was urged to get his wide men to push on the full backs and not allow them the time to get their arrowed balls into Carroll – We don’t play that way!’
• At this point Commolli quietly urged the scouts to leave it and not push it any further.
• Hodgson and Kelly have built up a serious and nasty hatred for Torres and Reina – it has all come one way but has now started to return from the Spaniards.
• Mike Kelly spends his time slating the players and doesn’t have a good word to say about any of them
Hodgson is feeling that he is not getting anywhere near the credit he should be 'for guiding this squad so easily through the Europa League'.
He has tactically took a group of young players and also rans and sailed through against full strength sides.
'Facking ell, facking ell - no one is giving me the credit I deserve for the European efforts'
He is also not happy that John Henry is in many discussions with Commolli and not Roy.
Big arguments between staff brought in by Hodgson and those already at the club about footballing philosophys.
Ex Fulham coach on the virtues of their methods and Liverpool coaches desperately trying to tell them 'but we are not Fulham'
Haha. If even half that is true, I hope Budgie gets snowed in and starves to death
Roy's gonna flip about this.
Mike Kelly is a renowned know-nothing annoying fucking bellend.
Oh, fuck. How did these horrible cunts end up at LFC?
Cheers Purssssslow
Oh, fuck. How did these horrible cunts end up at LFC?
Cheers Purssssslow
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Haha. If even half that is true, I hope Budgie gets fired tomorrow
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That works for me.
Haha. If even half that is true, I hope Budgie gets fired tomorrow
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That works for me.
Is kelly the assistant manager? I must have seen him sat there, but still have no idea who he is, or anything he's ever done.
Assistant manager and goalkeeping coach. If the bits involving Comolli are true, Roy's a goner. He has to be.
Regrettably Roy was the King's recommendation out of those interviewed once the board decided it wouldn't give him the job, and Broughton would have had the final say. This is by no means down to Purslow alone.
Regrettably Roy was the King's recommendation out of those interviewed once the board decided it wouldn't give him the job, and Broughton would have had the final say. This is by no means down to Purslow alone.
old news I posted this ages ago...
That flipboard worked well in Örebro and Halmstad, not to forget Xamax. So who are we to think it will not work here???
Fuck me, he really needs to fuck off before we're more of a laughing stock than G&H managed to make us.
I can't stand roy but the opening post is total hearsay with not a single word that can be proved either way.
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I can't stand roy but the opening post is total hearsay with not a single word that can be proved either way.
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you dare! i proved the authenticity of the flipchart some two days ago because im a genius like that. so if that is 100% genuine then it would follow that the rest is genuine.
i mean people that have real valid evidence to support their claims would not then incorporate lies to make it sound worse. i don't believe you'd risk your credibility like that needlessly. the flipchart was budgie's handwriting beyond doubt.
I can't stand roy but the opening post is total hearsay with not a single word that can be proved either way.
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you dare! i proved the authenticity of the flipchart some two days ago because im a genius like that. so if that is 100% genuine then it would follow that the rest is genuine.
i mean people that have real valid evidence to support their claims would not then incorporate lies to make it sound worse. i don't believe you'd risk your credibility like that needlessly. the flipchart was budgie's handwriting beyond doubt.
I wanted Kenny to take the wheel in the summer and was disappointed when the board snubbed him for Hodgson. Although he wasn't Liverpool class, I didn't expect Woy to turn out this badly.
He's defensive, deluded and an absolute fucking disaster.
It's time for the Fenway fellows to do what's right for the club.
He's defensive, deluded and an absolute fucking disaster.
It's time for the Fenway fellows to do what's right for the club.
Another day spent frustrated by the fact that we've a useless, spineless, twat of a manager in charge of our club, when Kenny would have jumped at the chance of a short-term appointment in the summer.
I can't remember a worst time over the last 20 years to be a Liverpool fan.
I can't remember a worst time over the last 20 years to be a Liverpool fan.
Another post from LFCREDS :
Stolen from RAWK.
What I've heard is Tom Werner and John Henry sat down with Roy after the Utrecht game and baiscally told Roy they want to see a significant change in results from now until January (don't know whether thats the beginning of January or the end) or they may be forced into making a decision on his future.
I was also told about the Pepe and Torres situation although Maxi was also included in that list.
I was told John Henry and Tom Werner over the last 3 months have scrutinised everything at Liverpool and they are not happy with the contracts in terms of wages and length that have been given to ageing to players.
I was also told that Pepe Torres and Maxi have held discussions with both Tom Werner and John Henry and expressed their concerns at the direction the club is taking under Roy, which has put Carra's and Stevie's nose out of joint and there is divisions in the squad that have gone beyond repair.
Stolen from RAWK.
What I've heard is Tom Werner and John Henry sat down with Roy after the Utrecht game and baiscally told Roy they want to see a significant change in results from now until January (don't know whether thats the beginning of January or the end) or they may be forced into making a decision on his future.
I was also told about the Pepe and Torres situation although Maxi was also included in that list.
I was told John Henry and Tom Werner over the last 3 months have scrutinised everything at Liverpool and they are not happy with the contracts in terms of wages and length that have been given to ageing to players.
I was also told that Pepe Torres and Maxi have held discussions with both Tom Werner and John Henry and expressed their concerns at the direction the club is taking under Roy, which has put Carra's and Stevie's nose out of joint and there is divisions in the squad that have gone beyond repair.
If it's taken from SQUAWK it's bound to be hysterical, agenda-driven bollocks.
Pepe Torres and Maxi have held discussions with both Tom Werner and John Henry and expressed their concerns at the direction the club is taking under Roy, which has put Carra's and Stevie's nose out of joint and there is divisions in the squad that have gone beyond repair.
Carra and Gerrard cannot be supporting him,are they?
Carra and Gerrard cannot be supporting him,are they?
If Gerrard and Carra are supporting Roy, they can fuck off!!!
As it totally suits my agenda, I totally believe everything in Crump's post. This Kelly sounds even more of a whopper than Roy. I cant believe Stevie would put up with that kind of bollocks for one minute. He's always been the first to complain when things arent up to scratch.
As it totally suits my agenda, I totally believe everything in Crump's post. This Kelly sounds even more of a whopper than Roy. I cant believe Stevie would put up with that kind of bollocks for one minute. He's always been the first to complain when things arent up to scratch.
Torres/Reina vs Carra/Stevie
That's not good at all ...
That's not good at all ...
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