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Footballers being slagged and compared to Olympians

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Football is too tribal.

Most (premiership?) fans would choose club over country.



Seems like the press and lots of public on facebook ETC are going with this whole footballers are a disgrace, over paid wimps, cheats, no team spirit, not dedicated, celeb mad twats when compared to Olympians.

I know a handful of the top athletes earn footballers wages and they can do well commercially after winning gold but you can understand why after watching the Olympics people are a bit footballers meh.

One mate of mine has totally lost it with footy, the diving, twitter shit, the disresepct to refs ETC he cannot watch it anymore with the same passion and simply watches MOTD on a saturday night only.

Is it fair that footballers are getting this stick, most Olympians train all sorts of strange hours, sacrifice their life, their diet/social life ETC for a chance at something which happens once every 4 years and they may completely fail in.

Thought this picture was quite good and sums up the mood of some folk out there.

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The reason people hate footballers is because a very sizeable amount of them are handsome dickheads who've come into a lot of money very quickly, and some get quite loud, preaching irrelevance from their nonsense realities - if there's one group of people they're similar to it's hip hop stars, another bunch of utter bellwhiffs.

So much win in that paragraph above!
 
It's as if people think that football as a sport is the problem, and not the fact that its played by 22 subnormal lottery winners who are spoilt rotten and treated like gods by everyone around them. The reason people hate footballers is because a very sizeable amount of them are handsome dickheads who've come into a lot of money very quickly, and some get quite loud, preaching irrelevance from their nonsense realities - if there's one group of people they're similar to it's hip hop stars, another bunch of utter bellwhiffs.

The thing with athletics is that the facilities and coaches tend to be in universities, or at least in leafy suburbs. The thing with football is that you tend to have to fight your way past a burning car to get to training and only the fittest survive. Athletes love to prove how hard they are because they aren't. Footballers don't care about looking hard, only winning. What do people expect?

What people moaning about football want to see is 22 loveable bankers with BoJo haircuts smiling, laughing at each other's shit jokes, picking each other up as they fall, as a crowd of startled Mary Poppins-a-likes discuss house prices in Cambridge, waiting for the cucumber based cocktails to be served. They can all fuck off out of my head.

We're living in phase 2 of the Clare Baldingeriastion of the UK. I fear for post-Baldingian society.


I often think disparagingly about footy players then think 'what I be like if someone had made me a multi millionaire with fans chanting my name & women falling at my feet at the age of 18?'. I then realise I'd probably be amongst the worst of them. It's hard to imagin being them, but most players are as removed from me & you as Roman Abromovich is, probably more so in some ways. Grown men who have never known anything other than adulation, massive wealth & sport.
 
Another thing they don't seem to realise is that the problem isn't footballers who are idiots, it's actually footballers who are idiots but think they're clever. Cantona, Garth Crooks, Le Saux, Clarke Carlyle - these are the ones who cause chaos and destruction with their unchecked stupidity.
 
I wouldn't go that far. As a Tottenham fan he's not above a bit of Liverpool-bashing (or at least baiting).

Talksport seems like a tawdry concern from top to bottom tbh. I'm not sure LFC fans should really be listening to it - the entire enterprise is covered in Kelvin MacKenzie's fingerprints.
 
Far too many of them are grown men physically but not emotionally. That will often not be solely their fault, considering the backgrounds many of them come from, but the way they get mollycoddled as players doesn't exactly encourage them to grow up either. Upshot is they're severely ill-equipped to handle all the money and adulation which gets thrown at them
 
Talksport seems like a tawdry concern from top to bottom tbh. I'm not sure LFC fans should really be listening to it - the entire enterprise is covered in Kelvin MacKenzie's fingerprints.

Can't disagree with that, and I don't make a habit of tuning into it, but it fills a gap sometimes. If I were to follow this principle to its logical conclusion I probably wouldn't read "The Times", as that's out of the same Murdoch stable as certain other dishrags I could mention.
 
Far too many of them are grown men physically but not emotionally. That will often not be solely their fault, considering the backgrounds many of them come from, but the way they get mollycoddled as players doesn't exactly encourage them to grow up either. Upshot is they're severely ill-equipped to handle all the money and adulation which gets thrown at them

It'll only get worse. We're now seeing players coming through who've been anointed for success and showered with money and adulation from their early teens. I follow a few of our youngsters on Twitter and some of them are already living in a bit of a fantasy world. It's not just a matter of taste, either - there's the practical concern of how these lads are possibly going to maintain the drive to actually make it to the first team.
 
Can't disagree with that, and I don't make a habit of tuning into it, but it fills a gap sometimes. If I were to follow this principle to its logical conclusion I probably wouldn't read "The Times", as that's out of the same Murdoch stable as certain other dishrags I could mention.

Don't want to derail the topic completely but I agree. Particularly given that The Times's losses are covered by The Lying Rag's profits, and who knows if Murdoch would suffer them otherwise.
 
Actually when it comes to interviews I'm often struck by how humble footballers sound. They make many other types of sports people sound like raging egomaniacs. Lots of tennis players, golfers etc will say things like, 'I played a brilliant game, I hit some superb shots, I thought I did a fantastic job...' whereas most footballers, even after fantastic performances, will frown and mumble about needing to do better, cutting out mistakes, etc etc. Gerrard, for example, practically begs forgiveness for not being perfect after good performances. It's strange, given the air of arrogance that surrounds most other aspects of the game.
 
I've heard him do it. I'm not saying he does it all the time or anything like that, but it certainly has been known.

I think he'd only do that out of desperation JJ. He's a decent comedy writer (TV Burp etc) who for some bizarre reason has ended up stuck in a job that couldn't be less suited to his personality. I suppose it gives him security, but I bet he can't wait to leave for home every day!
 
It'll only get worse. We're now seeing players coming through who've been anointed for success and showered with money and adulation from their early teens. I follow a few of our youngsters on Twitter and some of them are already living in a bit of a fantasy world. It's not just a matter of taste, either - there's the practical concern of how these lads are possibly going to maintain the drive to actually make it to the first team.

When I went on my tour of the Academy with Molby and Alan Kennedy, some of the same youth of OUR club were openly mocking us as we were taken round. It really irked me that they were looking down on us - the people who ultimately pay our wages. it was genuinely annoying and myself and several others quickly realised what was going on and wanted to give them a piece of our mind.

Disrespectful fuckers.
 
Actually when it comes to interviews I'm often struck by how humble footballers sound. They make many other types of sports people sound like raging egomaniacs. Lots of tennis players, golfers etc will say things like, 'I played a brilliant game, I hit some superb shots, I thought I did a fantastic job...' whereas most footballers, even after fantastic performances, will frown and mumble about needing to do better, cutting out mistakes, etc etc. Gerrard, for example, practically begs forgiveness for not being perfect after good performances. It's strange, given the air of arrogance that surrounds most other aspects of the game.

I think that's cos the competitive nature is massive in football & to make, really make it, you have to be striving to constantly improving on the pitch. Even then they're threatened by the possibility of another manager coming in & ditching them.

That part of their personality is completely at odds with the rest much of the time.
 
Spion: when I went on the Alan Kennedy tour back in the mid-90s our group, which included kids, was received very kindly by most of the players but got the exact same kind of cr@p you describe from McMoneyman and Babb. It's one reason why I despise the former in particular.
 
An extract from the secret footballer, is it any wonder there is a rift between the man on the street and top flight players when they behave like this.




Footballers are fantastic fodder for the papers. I haven't worked for a club that hasn't had a player caught out by his girlfriend or wife. But there are plenty of footballers' partners who turn a blind eye to indiscretions because they know that the life they enjoy would disappear if they walked out. I know wives who have walked in on their other half when he's in full swing, gone shopping, come home and had his dinner on the table as if nothing had happened. They simply cannot do without a designer wardrobe, two weeks in Dubai and half of Tiffany's every Christmas and birthday, and so look the other way. This amicable agreement becomes a problem only when the media get hold of it. Even then, the general rule is that things are brushed under the carpet as quickly as possible. The exception is when a wife no longer needs the player.
The real question is: what's in it for the player? After all, the risk and reward are completely out of sync. A married player has so much to lose for the sake of five minutes of lust. But it's more than that. There is the bravado. I can sit down with a stunning woman and she'll hang on my every word; I can make the worst jokes and she'll laugh like I'm a standup; I can buy her bottles of champagne and she'll be impressed. In short, a player can have his ego stroked relentlessly, sleep with a beautiful woman at the end of it and, nine times out of 10, he'll get away with it. If, indeed, his wife or girlfriend even cares. Many players have childhood sweethearts who they end up marrying, and many of them will have kids at a young age. When a player begins to earn the big bucks, that's when the temptations really start: and they coincide with the arrival of the Louis Vuitton handbags and the first-class flights to Barbados.
A friend who used to play football with me years ago and has since retired told me a great story from when he was in Dubai at the One & Only resort. He and his wife had checked in at the same time as another player, who is now an England international, and his wife. You all know him, though his wife is probably more famous than him in certain circles. My friend, who, it has to be said, is a handsome bastard, was sunning himself at one end of the swimming pool and he noticed the wife of the other player slip into the water at the far end. After he had caught her eye a couple of times she made a beeline for him. When she was close enough, she wrapped her legs around him. All the while, her husband was asleep on a sun lounger under a shady tree. My friend even brought out his mobile phone to show me a few of the picture messages she'd sent him after their return. Anyone who had taken a picture of the action in the pool would have made a fortune, and made four lives unbearable for a time.
But no footballer who preaches ethics where the media is concerned would be foolish enough to completely regret the influence they have in this country. After all, Sky TV has pumped billions of pounds into football, which in turn has filtered down into our pockets.
The money players earn makes anything a possibility. Over the past few years, Las Vegas has overtaken Marbella as the number one destination for footballers looking to let their hair down. Out there, even our worst behaviour looks sedate. A few seasons ago, I made the pilgrimage with a group of regular revellers and was blown away by the debauchery. By the end of the week, eight players had new tattoos and one player took a local girl back to England and married her in a shotgun wedding.
Halfway through the trip, one of the players said that Lindsay Lohan had invited us to her house in Los Angeles – something that didn't appeal to me. That turned out to be a great decision because on their arrival they quickly realised that she was under house arrest. As one of the lads later told me, "We drove five hours to watch a fucking movie."
I've been to just about every club and trendy bar worth going to, and I've seen every kind of show. But I've never seen a place quite like TAO in Las Vegas. We took a table that had a $5,000 minimum spend. In Vegas, you absolutely must have a "sorter" – a type of concierge who knows everyone in town, will get you the best seats for shows, clubs, restaurants and pool parties, have helicopters and limos on tap and access to all the women a man could ever need. As we took our seats, "Jess" introduced us to the owners and explained who we were. Five minutes later a parade of drop-dead gorgeous women walked in a line past our table. Each time we saw one we liked we had to tell Jess, who'd seat them at the table.
It was hugely embarrassing for me, but the girls make thousands of dollars a night and I'm not here to judge. Behind us was another table that included some proper stars, among them a Barcelona player. We had a couple more spaces to fill; when a woman who was a complete knockout walked past the table, everyone stood up in unison and yelled, "That one!"
She had not gone unnoticed by the table behind and, when Jess reappeared, we realised we were not quite as important as we thought we were. Jess told us: "The table behind have asked me to tell you that whatever you offer for this girl, they will double it." One of our party, mortally offended at losing the girl to the table behind us, challenged them to a "champagne war". The idea is to send over a bottle of champagne; the other table is then meant to reciprocate, and on it goes until the bill gets too big for one side to pay. If a table keeps playing but cannot afford to pay, they are forced into the ultimate loss of face – they are marched out of the club by security to heckles and wolf whistles.
The final bill? Just short of $130,000, excluding tip, which as Jess explained on the way back to the hotel was nowhere near the record but still a great effort. Those situations can be awkward. I had made it clear that I did not want to participate, but I was only kidding myself. How could I possibly sit at the table and buy my own drinks? That's why I didn't put up any resistance as I checked out and paid my final bill of $14,000, which included some ridiculous overpriced room service and a helicopter trip to the Grand Canyon.
 
Don't hate the footballer for being famous in such a banal mediascape, hate the hacks who make their living by giving substance to their idiocy, hate the fools who retweet them, hate the twats who elevate them.
 
Typical Beasley - he realises at one point that his entire argument has started to collapse so he just switches to self-righteous indignation to provide some distraction.
 
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