First name on the teamsheet.
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Just quickly off the top of my head:
Pepe
Gerrard(when fully fit)
Suarez
Carra
Carroll
Agger(when fit)
Kuyt
Ming
Kelly
Johnson
Lucas(or Spearing)
So my formation would be a 4-3-3
Carroll
Suarez Kuyt
Gerrard
Ming Lucas
Johnson Agger Carra Kelly
Pepe
E. Oncyfied
Pepe
Gerrard(when fully fit)
Suarez
Carra
Carroll
Agger(when fit)
Kuyt
Ming
Kelly
Johnson
Lucas(or Spearing)
So my formation would be a 4-3-3
Carroll
Suarez Kuyt
Gerrard
Ming Lucas
Johnson Agger Carra Kelly
Pepe
E. Oncyfied
I guess id start by picking my prefered formation, and then selecting the best players for that formation (seems simple doesnt it EVERY ENGLAND MANAGER SINCE TERRY VENABLES)
I'd always want (when possible) to play 2 up front, but i like genuine width AND a genuine holding player so my formation would be a 4-1-3-2 kinda thing.
So Reina is my keeper of course.
Then Gerrard of course, hes our best player and plays in the middle of the three.
Suarez is next and has proven he can influence games so he goes in up front.
Dirk is next and i would play him on the right of the three.
Carragher at CB
Lucas at DM
Carroll at CF
Johnson at LB
Agger at CB
Kelly at RB
Leaving that problem Left Side.
Probably in a minority but id play Cole out there if hes fit.
I guess Meireles and Skrtel are really unlucky to miss out.
I'd always want (when possible) to play 2 up front, but i like genuine width AND a genuine holding player so my formation would be a 4-1-3-2 kinda thing.
So Reina is my keeper of course.
Then Gerrard of course, hes our best player and plays in the middle of the three.
Suarez is next and has proven he can influence games so he goes in up front.
Dirk is next and i would play him on the right of the three.
Carragher at CB
Lucas at DM
Carroll at CF
Johnson at LB
Agger at CB
Kelly at RB
Leaving that problem Left Side.
Probably in a minority but id play Cole out there if hes fit.
I guess Meireles and Skrtel are really unlucky to miss out.
Totally disagree about starting with the formation. I would always start by seeing what players I have available and then pick a formation to suit them, NOT the other way around.
Not much point IMHO in picking the whole team until we see what kind of a transfer summer we have. In terms of the title question in this thread, for me Gerrard is always first pick if he's fit.
Not much point IMHO in picking the whole team until we see what kind of a transfer summer we have. In terms of the title question in this thread, for me Gerrard is always first pick if he's fit.
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Totally disagree about starting with the formation. I would always start by seeing what players I have available and then pick a formation to suit them, NOT the other way around.
Not much point IMHO in picking the whole team until we see what kind of a transfer summer we have. In terms of the title question in this thread, for me Gerrard is always first pick if he's fit.
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Saved me the trouble of writing it myself JJ.
Totally disagree about starting with the formation. I would always start by seeing what players I have available and then pick a formation to suit them, NOT the other way around.
Not much point IMHO in picking the whole team until we see what kind of a transfer summer we have. In terms of the title question in this thread, for me Gerrard is always first pick if he's fit.
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Saved me the trouble of writing it myself JJ.
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Gerrard
Carra
Reina
Suarez
Carra
Reina
Suarez
Carragher
Gerrard
Kuyt
Reina
Gerrard
Kuyt
Reina
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=45105.msg1321848#msg1321848 date=1303815445]
Totally disagree about starting with the formation. I would always start by seeing what players I have available and then pick a formation to suit them, NOT the other way around.
Not much point IMHO in picking the whole team until we see what kind of a transfer summer we have. In terms of the title question in this thread, for me Gerrard is always first pick if he's fit.
[/quote]Nah.
Totally disagree about starting with the formation. I would always start by seeing what players I have available and then pick a formation to suit them, NOT the other way around.
Not much point IMHO in picking the whole team until we see what kind of a transfer summer we have. In terms of the title question in this thread, for me Gerrard is always first pick if he's fit.
[/quote]Nah.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45105.msg1321898#msg1321898 date=1303818543]
1. Reina
2. Suarez
3. Gerrard
4. Kuyt
5. Meireles
6. Carra
7. Carroll
8. Johnson
9. Lucas
10. Agger
11. Kelly
[/quote]You have Carra ahead of Agger there Modo.
Are you running a fever this morning 😉
1. Reina
2. Suarez
3. Gerrard
4. Kuyt
5. Meireles
6. Carra
7. Carroll
8. Johnson
9. Lucas
10. Agger
11. Kelly
[/quote]You have Carra ahead of Agger there Modo.
Are you running a fever this morning 😉
Reina, Carragher, Gerrard and now Suarez would always be the starting point if available.
The next tier is Kuyt, Agger, Johnson and perhaps Meireles.
The likes of Lucas, Kelly et al then fill in the gaps.
I've omitted Carroll because I don't know enough about him in a Liverpool shirt just yet, however is price tag probably dictates that he's an automatic starter in the first tier.
The next tier is Kuyt, Agger, Johnson and perhaps Meireles.
The likes of Lucas, Kelly et al then fill in the gaps.
I've omitted Carroll because I don't know enough about him in a Liverpool shirt just yet, however is price tag probably dictates that he's an automatic starter in the first tier.
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[quote author=Modo link=topic=45105.msg1321898#msg1321898 date=1303818543]
1. Reina
2. Suarez
3. Gerrard
4. Kuyt
5. Meireles
6. Carra
7. Carroll
8. Johnson
9. Lucas
10. Agger
11. Kelly
[/quote]You have Carra ahead of Agger there Modo.
Are you running a fever this morning 😉
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Kinda lost faith in him with considering all the injuries. Its understandable isnt it.
[quote author=Modo link=topic=45105.msg1321898#msg1321898 date=1303818543]
1. Reina
2. Suarez
3. Gerrard
4. Kuyt
5. Meireles
6. Carra
7. Carroll
8. Johnson
9. Lucas
10. Agger
11. Kelly
[/quote]You have Carra ahead of Agger there Modo.
Are you running a fever this morning 😉
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Kinda lost faith in him with considering all the injuries. Its understandable isnt it.
[quote author=themn link=topic=45105.msg1321921#msg1321921 date=1303819727]
Oncy's Alter Ego.
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That's the composer Liszt. Gotta reference Brahms as well then, since Oncy would have to be a combination of the two. Pic here:
www.desingel.be/dadetail.orb?da_id=2423/
Oncy's Alter Ego.
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That's the composer Liszt. Gotta reference Brahms as well then, since Oncy would have to be a combination of the two. Pic here:
www.desingel.be/dadetail.orb?da_id=2423/
Im guessing its usually Stevie, Carra and then Pepe! But since January you can throw Suarez in there also!
I'd be of the opinion that the first name on the team sheet would be the player who's replacement is furthest away from him in terms of quality.
Has to be Reina, with Carra, Steve and Suarez up there too.
Has to be Reina, with Carra, Steve and Suarez up there too.
Suarez.
Formations (like "Best 11!"😉 depend on available players, form, competition, partnerships, opposition, injuries, tactics, etc etc etc...
It baffles me that people sit and type out "this is the formation we should play!" when it depends on 1 million variables and changes every week anyway.
Reina.
It baffles me that people sit and type out "this is the formation we should play!" when it depends on 1 million variables and changes every week anyway.
Reina.
[quote author=Ryan link=topic=45105.msg1322288#msg1322288 date=1303890820]
Formations (like "Best 11!"😉 depend on available players, form, competition, partnerships, opposition, injuries, tactics, etc etc etc...
It baffles me that people sit and type out "this is the formation we should play!" when it depends on 1 million variables and changes every week anyway.
Reina.
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Well, obviously it shouldn't be taken too seriously and I'm sure most people making these best XIs do it just for a bit of fun and know the reality can be very different.
Formations (like "Best 11!"😉 depend on available players, form, competition, partnerships, opposition, injuries, tactics, etc etc etc...
It baffles me that people sit and type out "this is the formation we should play!" when it depends on 1 million variables and changes every week anyway.
Reina.
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Well, obviously it shouldn't be taken too seriously and I'm sure most people making these best XIs do it just for a bit of fun and know the reality can be very different.
Absolutely fine to discuss them, Avvy. What I was taking issue with was Oncy's view that you choose the formation first, then fit the players into it. To me, and Ryan it would seem, that's @rse about front. You first have to see what you've got at your disposal before you decide how you're going to use it to get the job done.
I'm putting Neymar as first in my teamsheet.
[quote author=Gerry_A_Trick link=topic=45105.msg1322063#msg1322063 date=1303837519]
I'd be of the opinion that the first name on the team sheet would be the player who's replacement is furthest away from him in terms of quality.
Has to be Reina, with Carra, Steve and Suarez up there too.
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I think you're overcomplicating things. It's just our best players, basically.
Stevie
Reina
Suarez
Carra
And as keni(?) said, probably Carroll, but that remains to be seen, to some extent.
I'd be of the opinion that the first name on the team sheet would be the player who's replacement is furthest away from him in terms of quality.
Has to be Reina, with Carra, Steve and Suarez up there too.
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I think you're overcomplicating things. It's just our best players, basically.
Stevie
Reina
Suarez
Carra
And as keni(?) said, probably Carroll, but that remains to be seen, to some extent.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=45105.msg1322301#msg1322301 date=1303892961]
Absolutely fine to discuss them, Avvy. What I was taking issue with was Oncy's view that you choose the formation first, then fit the players into it. To me, and Ryan it would seem, that's @rse about front. You first have to see what you've got at your disposal before you decide how you're going to use it to get the job done.
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I agree with that JJ, but it isn't really that important for the purpose of this thread. For example Oncy's selection could easily be twisted into different formation like:
Carroll
Cole Suarez Kuyt
Gerrard Lucas
Johnson Agger Carra Kelly
Pepe
Besides the formation doesn't really tell us that much about how the team is actually going to play in a given match anyway.
Absolutely fine to discuss them, Avvy. What I was taking issue with was Oncy's view that you choose the formation first, then fit the players into it. To me, and Ryan it would seem, that's @rse about front. You first have to see what you've got at your disposal before you decide how you're going to use it to get the job done.
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I agree with that JJ, but it isn't really that important for the purpose of this thread. For example Oncy's selection could easily be twisted into different formation like:
Carroll
Cole Suarez Kuyt
Gerrard Lucas
Johnson Agger Carra Kelly
Pepe
Besides the formation doesn't really tell us that much about how the team is actually going to play in a given match anyway.
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