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Firmino: YNWA (for a year)

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I haven't missed the mark at all, I've just emphasised that of course the consequences make the misdemeanour more serious. For the record he didn't just hit a pedestrian, he crashed into the side of a car on the M6, whilst drunk, asleep, travelling at 90mph, killing two children, it's a much worse scenario.

Person 1 - gets in a car drunk. doesnt crash
Person 2 - gets in a car drunk. crashes

Mark. Missed.
 
Person 1 - gets in a car drunk. doesnt crash
Person 2 - gets in a car drunk. crashes

Mark. Missed.

I think the only one missing the mark here is you, I'll spell it out. Brendan attempted to pull up Sean for some form of double standards over his revulsion of Luke McCormack whilst having much more mild critiscim of Firmino, suggesting that the consequences were only a minor detail in the offence, and that his feelings shouldn't be unaffected by them. I replied by saying that was stupid and of course the consequences were relevant, especially when the consequence is the death of two children.

This isn't exactly a complicated quote chain, I'm not sure why you've taken such exception to it.
 
There's drink driving and drink driving - there's having three pints and there's having half a bottle of scotch
It's a generational thing and old twats like me who used to regularly drink and drive - most people did in the seventies - and avoided doing any damage to ourselves and others -generally don't view it as the heinous crime you youngsters do - Soz there it is - bring on the hate
 
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It seems you were more likely to die from it in the 70's, especially if you population adjust those numbers.
 
There's drink driving and drink driving - there's having three pints and there's having half a bottle of scotch
It's a generational thing and old twats like me who used to regularly drink and drive - most people did in the seventies - and avoided doing any damage to ourselves and others -generally don't view it as the heinous crime you youngsters do - Soz there it is - bring on the hate

I think the hate will stem from the fact you are more likely to cause injury and death if you've had a drink before driving.

If you (one) still think it's ok to drink and then drive under those circumstances then I think it's less a generational thing than just a straight out cuntish thing.
 
Much of this decrease in all types if accident was cars becoming safer reductions in national speed limits, seat belt law being introduced in the early 80's followed shortly by rear seat belt legislation- crumple zone designed cars we are now in an age of air bags front and curtain active seat belts, pedestrian air bags , lane monitoring and early stages of autonomous braking that graph will continue to fall and be little to do with alcohol
 
Ok. But just saying if you ever make the mistake of interpreting a graph more accurately than me again, then you'll be joining those statistics.
 
I think you are far more likely to get mown down by someone driving like a twat than someone who has had a drink - Although clearly the person who has had a drink is more likely to kill someone than if he hadn't - My point is people driving like twats are more of an issue than drunk drivers and I see that daily but people don't seem to get as excited by tightening up the driving test , driver education and having traffic police return to the roads- I'm not advocating drink driving but I think there needs to be perspective on all road users
 
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This thread has got a bit out of control

Nobody has died or anything

Well exactly and as I said - perspective.

I bet for every Firmino being a soft tit there are 100 young lads ragging powerful BMW, Audi Mercs etc around the streets particularly in the mill towns of the M62 corridor with the potential to do a lot more harm [emoji15]
 
Eventually cars will be fitted with data recorders, yes car crash investigations would make a good spin-off from the air crash one, but you can collect all that data wirelessly in real-time, identify who the dickheads are, and immediately imprison them. Their cars can be confiscated under the proceeds of crime act, and resold to more dickheads. It'd turn into a perpetual source of income whilst removing thousands of unwanted people from society.
 
Well they do now - Black Box insurance trackers - The government could but never would make it law for cars to have trackers and Dash cams . Dash cams are a legal requirement in Russia who ironically don't drive sober.
But as said the next generation of Autonomous braking and collision avoidance systems will almost make accidents a thing of the past
 
Well exactly and as I said - perspective.

I bet for every Firmino being a soft tit there are 100 young lads ragging powerful BMW, Audi Mercs etc around the streets particularly in the mill towns of the M62 corridor with the potential to do a lot more harm [emoji15]

Yep. And even moreso if they have been drinking.
 
I had to do a driving course for a day in lieu of getting points

Some fascinating information about driving and accidents. All the usual stuff about reaction times and all that, but the stuff about where you're most likely to be killed was interesting

Urban, motorways or countryside

I thought motorways because of speed and concentration of traffic etc

Apparently not. Countryside. Locals drive too fast because they know the roads. Non-locals drive too slow because they don't

That's the first problem. Also, the speed limit is too high for unlit, narrow roads. And finally, if you crash either you're in a hedge and nobody knows, or the ambulance and hospital are too far away to help.
 
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