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European super league in the future?

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Awful idea.


It reminds me of 20 overs cricket games and that IPL crap they have. By trying to modernise cricket and make it more exciting, they're essentially destroying it by alienating the real supporters of the game.

Just leave football as it is ffs. I love the premiership.
 
RedNinja said:
This will happen, it's only a matter of time..
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Probably correct but I think that it is also about that Real Madrid, Barcelona and the top clubs in Italy don't want a collective TV deal. They and the other big European clubs want more power and if they don't get it then the European Super league will happen.
 
Yep. It's been inevitable since the domestic leagues all started turning as boring as Scotland. (Leicesters fairy tale aside).
 
It's bad enough how money has ruined the league in this and other countries but the prospect of qualifying for a competition based on reputation rather than achievement is ridiculous.
 
If it is just reputation then Ajax should be in there before Manchester City, Chelsea, Arsenal and arguably Manchester United.

It's marketing position. A collection of the richest teams playing each other. Don't worry though as the wealth will trickle down to the smaller clubs. They can become aspirational and just work harder to make it.
 
How many European finals have man city made? I'm sure Red Star Belgrade could make an argument to join...
 
cloggypop said:
If it is just reputation then Ajax should be in there before Manchester City, Chelsea, Arsenal and arguably Manchester United.

It's marketing position. A collection of the richest teams playing each other. Don't worry though as the wealth will trickle down to the smaller clubs. They can become aspirational and just work harder to make it.
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We should really remove any extra money given to the smaller clubs who are struggling to motivate them more. I'm sure that's how it works.
 
But nobody is actually clear what they want to happen.

Is it a shorter domestic league programme and more European glamour ties in another expansion of the CL? So? It's already a break-away league really anyway.

I've heard talk of automatic qualification for some teams, which sounds pointless, stupid and hardly necessary anyway.

Or are they talking about not having a domestic league at all, leaving the Premiership and playing in an entirely new "Super Europe" league? Why? The Premiership TV rights are the largest in the world anyway, and the fans would tell them to fuck off.
 
With the wealth being soon to be spread more evenly in Spanish Football, due to new laws being passed, this will most certainly happen rather than probably..

Whilst I agree to a certain extent the wealth should be shared with TV revenue in the premiership, I also agree it is fundamentally wrong for a lesser team that doesn't carry the overseas following to be funded from revenue overseas, They are basically receiving revenue from the bigger established clubs support..

I also think more money from the premiership should also be distributed to the lower leagues.

Though you lose the Big 5 or 6 clubs from the premier League, revenue will fall to Championship levels..

No one overseas would want to watch a Norwich vs Stoke game would they ?
 
[article]Officials from Arsenal, Manchester United, Liverpool, Manchester City and Chelsea did not discuss starting a European Super League when they met in London yesterday and talks were primarily about pre-season tournament the International Champions Cup.
Reports in The Lying Rag claimed that officials held a meeting with American billionaire Stephen Ross – the owner of Miami Dolphins NFL team.
Ross’ organisation is behind the International Champions Cup series, which sees a number of Barclays Premier League clubs take on other leading sides from across Europe in showpiece matches, often held as pre-season tournaments around the globe.
Photographs of club officials leaving a meeting at the Dorchester Hotel together prompted speculation that another attempt could be made to form a continental league competition but an Arsenal spokesman, while confirming a meeting took place, told Press Association Sport: “We are strongly opposed to any breakaway.
“Not Arsenal, nor any clubs at the meeting, are seeking changes to the Premier League and European landscape and no conversations surrounding displacing the Premier League or starting a European Super League took place.
“Discussions were primarily around the ICC and formats of European competitions that would compliment the existing Premier League.”
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I don't think it's inevitable at all. If it were it would have happened already. I suspect what put the kybosh on the idea when it surfaced previously was the fear - justified IMO - that it would separate the clubs from their respective domestic fanbases in a big way, and that reasoning may well repeat itself now. Which would you rather watch on a regular basis, Liverpool-v-Everton or Liverpool-v-Bayer Leverkusen?
 
I think the Champions League as it now is does as much as it can to wrench money from the game. I'm not convinced a super league would surpass that, or even match it, and the ill-feeling it would cause would undermine its legitimacy anyway.

I remember it being promoted last time by Sir John Hall - after Newcastle had won a few games the inevitable Geordie megalomania kicked in and he was certain N'cazzle would basically be bossing such a super league. It hasn't acquired any greater clarity or coherence since then. It's the pipe dream of pin heads.
 
This wont happen. Its just clubs bargaining postion for more ££££ and less Internationals.

This song and dance happens every few years between the big clubs and the UEFA/FIFA
 
I've been a fan for about 10 years and I think many people have said that this will happen sooner or later for the entire 10 years.

I don't think it will happen any time soon.
 
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No offence to anyone but, if I was in charge of putting this League together and I wasn't a Liverpool fan, we'd be nowhere fucking near it.
It'd be like saying The Dukes of Hazard is the best show on telly.
 
It'd be like saying Daisy Duke still looks boss in those shorts.

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I fear it will end up either directly, or after a brief Kerry Packer-style diversion, simply making an even more bloated and boring Champions League. And they'll probably play Der Ring des Nibelungen before each game, just to pad it out a bit more.
 
gkmacca said:
I fear it will end up either directly, or after a brief Kerry Packer-style diversion, simply making an even more bloated and boring Champions League. And they'll probably play Der Ring des Nibelungen before each game, just to pad it out a bit more.
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I reckon that's exactly what is going on. The first bit anyway.

The Champions League started in exactly the same way when the bigger clubs threatened a breakaway because it was so difficult to qualify for the European Cup.

Then Platini brought in FFP which was partly designed to make it easier for the big clubs to stay at the top.

The money men won't allow the clubs with the biggest appeal to stay out of the competition for long
 
manwithnoname said:
Yeah, the German league is a firestorm of unpredictability, with Bayern Munich winning the last four titles on the run, and 8 out of the last 12.
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So Atletico and Dortmund winning wasn't a sort of fairytale like if Leicester wins?
This is the type of arrogance I'm talking about.
Take one thing and purposely misconstrue it to fit ones agenda in order to make some type of clever pun.

Applause Brendan, I had no idea that Bayern, Barca and Madrid were dominating their respective leagues.
 
Modo said:
So Atletico and Dortmund winning wasn't a sort of fairytale like if Leicester wins?
This is the type of arrogance I'm talking about.
Take one thing and purposely misconstrue it to fit ones agenda in order to make some type of clever pun.

Applause Brendan, I had no idea that Bayern, Barca and Madrid were dominating their respective leagues.
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I wasn't aware you were engaged in a discussion about arrogance. I don't have much time for your posts as a rule, though.
 
I dont think it will ever happen.
It normally gets punted about every time one of the big 4 leagues has a TV deal due for renegotiation.
 
Apparently the latest idea they've discussed is staging all the first knockout games in America or the far east.
 
Twenty franchises, no relegation, two divisions and the top two from each division will meet each other once a year in the super cup. Or bowl, if you prefer.
 
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