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Europa League just got more interesting

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Uefa will announce on Friday that the Europa League winners will get a place in the following season's Champions League from the 2015-16 season.
 
Now people will start taking it seriously. This should have been done years ago. Also i don't think teams that get knocked out of the champions league in 3rd should be allowed into the europa cup.
 
I think both finalists should qualify.
The winners going into the group stages while the runners up go in at the qualifying stages
 
Jack D Rips said:
Its a good idea. Why do they have to wait until the 2016/17 season to bring it in?
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So UEFA's bloated gang of chancers can have endles meetings in 5-star Geneva hotels to discuss it while they gorge themselves on foie gras and teenage escort's fannies
 
i'd also happily give the 4th champs league place to the FA cup winners if i could . Winning a cup should mean alot more than finishing 4th in the league . 4th is for losers .
 
I like that idea RedZepp.
So can there be 5 teams of one league in the CL when this starts or do 4th miss out if someone wins UEFA and isn't in the top 4?
I did not read the article.
 
From my understanding the 4th place will not be lost if winning either competition is an English Team and outside the top 4..

A 5th team would enter the tournament at the playoff stage, which would be the 4th placed team..

In the event of being English winners in both the Europa league and Champions League, then 4th place would lose out if both the winners have finished outside the top 4..

The Europa League winners would then enter the tournament at the play off stage.
 
RedNinja said:
From my understanding the 4th place will not be lost if winning either competition is an English Team and outside the top 4..

A 5th team would enter the tournament at the playoff stage, which would be the 4th placed team..
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Erm... there's no 5th team.

Spurs finished 4th in the league when Chelsea won the title and finished 6th. Spurs ended up in the Europa League.

So there's only 4 teams in the Champions League; the exception to that was the season after we won it. Back then, it was up to the FA to decide what they wanted to do with the situation - whether they wanted to back the CL winners or the 4th-placed finisher to take the final place in the competition. After much waffling and I suppose lobbying, we ended up getting a place in the early qualifying rounds against TNS, while Everton kept their place in the playoffs which they subsequently wasted...

As a result, this was born:

Rule 1.03 amendment

UEFA amended Rule 1.03to guarantee future European title holders qualification to the next year’s Champions League competition, at the expense if necessary of a team in the champion's domestic league which preserves the maximum allowed number of entrants per domestic league, and takes away the authority of the national football association to decide which team to nominate in this situation:
The UEFA Champions League title-holder is guaranteed a place in the group stage even if it does not qualify for the competition through its domestic championship.​
a) If the title-holder comes from an association entitled to more than one place in the UEFA Champions League and qualifies for the UEFA Cup through its domestic competitions, the lowest-ranked club of the association’s UEFA Champions League representatives is automatically transferred to the UEFA Cup. In this case, the number of places to which the title-holder's national association is entitled in the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Cup does not change.​
b) If the title-holder comes from an association entitled to more than one place in the UEFA Champions League and does not qualify for the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Cup through its domestic competitions, the lowest-ranked club of the association’s UEFA Champions League representatives is automatically transferred to the UEFA Cup. In this case, the national association of the title-holder is entitled to one additional place in the UEFA Cup.​
The limitation applied in the Champions League does not apply in the UEFA Cup, whose rules state:
If the UEFA Cup title-holder does not qualify for either the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Cup through its domestic competitions, its participation in the UEFA Cup will not be at the expense of the contingent of its association.​
 
And as a sidenote to that development, because we ended up in the early qualifying rounds for the CL, it is arguable that Gerrard is the only player to have scored hat-tricks in the CL + 2 English domestic competitions:
- Champions League: vs TNS (qualifier)
- Europa League: vs Napoli
- Premier League: vs Everton, Aston Villa
- FA Cup: vs Luton

If the qualifier against TNS doesn't count as a proper CL game, then the only player to have scored hat-tricks in CL + 2 English domestic competitions is... Benayoun!
- Champions League: vs Beskitas
- Premier League: vs Burnley
- FA Cup: vs Havant & Waterlooville
 
studsup said:
Erm... there's no 5th team.

Spurs finished 4th in the league when Chelsea won the title and finished 6th. Spurs ended up in the Europa League.

So there's only 4 teams in the Champions League; the exception to that was the season after we won it. Back then, it was up to the FA to decide what they wanted to do with the situation - whether they wanted to back the CL winners or the 4th-placed finisher to take the final place in the competition. After much waffling and I suppose lobbying, we ended up getting a place in the early qualifying rounds against TNS, while Everton kept their place in the playoffs which they subsequently wasted...

As a result, this was born:

Rule 1.03 amendment

UEFA amended Rule 1.03to guarantee future European title holders qualification to the next year’s Champions League competition, at the expense if necessary of a team in the champion's domestic league which preserves the maximum allowed number of entrants per domestic league, and takes away the authority of the national football association to decide which team to nominate in this situation:
The UEFA Champions League title-holder is guaranteed a place in the group stage even if it does not qualify for the competition through its domestic championship.​
a) If the title-holder comes from an association entitled to more than one place in the UEFA Champions League and qualifies for the UEFA Cup through its domestic competitions, the lowest-ranked club of the association’s UEFA Champions League representatives is automatically transferred to the UEFA Cup. In this case, the number of places to which the title-holder's national association is entitled in the UEFA Champions League and the UEFA Cup does not change.​
b) If the title-holder comes from an association entitled to more than one place in the UEFA Champions League and does not qualify for the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Cup through its domestic competitions, the lowest-ranked club of the association’s UEFA Champions League representatives is automatically transferred to the UEFA Cup. In this case, the national association of the title-holder is entitled to one additional place in the UEFA Cup.​
The limitation applied in the Champions League does not apply in the UEFA Cup, whose rules state:
If the UEFA Cup title-holder does not qualify for either the UEFA Champions League or UEFA Cup through its domestic competitions, its participation in the UEFA Cup will not be at the expense of the contingent of its association.​
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Im talking about the new rule..

what I said applies from 2015...
 
The major leagues will now be allowed up to five participants in the Champions League, meaning the Europa League winners will not get a place at the expense of another club from their domestic league.

In the unlikely event of two clubs from the same country winning the Champions League and Europa League and both finishing outside of their domestic qualifying places, they would still qualify for the Champions League, with the side finishing fourth in the league missing out.
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