Exactly this, mate. Spot on.
Emanuel Mammana £14.9m bid made (appaz)
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Exactly this, mate. Spot on.
More important is who the writer is;
https://twitter.com/EmaGiulianelli
He proclaims he was the first to reveal the Mustafi deal, however the publications he writes for does not fill you with confidence.
Two issues with that. a) You know that's not going to happen and b) We don't want to tread water with an inferior backline that gives us no chance of challenging before City / United have bought up every £80m+ player around. Sooner or later that policy will pay dividends for them. We have an opportunity this coming season, we shouldn't spurn it.
Of course the top European CBs probably wouldn't move to LFC anyway and although VVD may not be the best around, or worth the fee, he seems to be about the best we can get and importantly he's both a substantial upgrade on Lovren and is very keen to come to Anfield.
He's right more often than he's wrong, though.
And I think he said at the time that the move was too early for Paletta.
Well you've finished with the Downing argument, which is always a problem.
I don't agree with a), it's entirely possible Lovren will be starting for us. Ideally he wouldn't be but i don't think it's absolutely certain we'll buy a ready made replacement for him.
I meant your asking Lovren to justify his fee.
The voice of reason.
So you agree we should sign him then ?
I don't know how many CBs you can say are definitely better than VVD at this point. He needs to play in a top team to really test his level, but I didn't see any weaknesses in his game last season. Among those who are not at the top clubs already (so excluding Ramos, Hummels etc) him and Koulibaly are clearly the best 2, but personally I like VVD more. As for the fee, of course 60-70M for a defender is crazy, but that's what you get when Man City, Chelsea and Liverpool are fighting for one player.
Wanting to sign him, or considering him to be an alternative to van Dijk are two very different issues though.
1) Replacement for Gomez/Klavan as a rotation/back up player with the future ahead of him
2) Ready made replacement for Lovren and to form a pairing with Matip, and improve our defence from day one
Signing him in regards to 1), is obviously fine if we have the funds and it wont effect spending on our other targets.
But for 2), he isnt that player now.
1) Replacement for Gomez/Klavan as a rotation/back up player with the future ahead of him
2) Ready made replacement for Lovren and to form a pairing with Matip, and improve our defence from day one
Signing him in regards to 1), is obviously fine if we have the funds and it wont effect spending on our other targets.
But for 2), he isnt that player now.
So long as we also intend on buying a top quality defender who is ready now. If my suspicion is right that Klopp fancies employing a 3-4-3 this season more regularly, we do need more depth at CB. If we're buying him to play in the domestic cups and as relief for our first choice players then that's fine.
Honestly I would be surprised if this signing went through. Lyon have no incentive to sell now, having only signed him a year ago – if he's indeed really good, why not wait a couple of years and sell him for whatever crazy money top CBs go for at that time? It's not like Lyon's president Aulas has a reputation for selling low... Also Mammana himself needs consistent game time more than anything now – so it doesn't make too much sense for him to go to a club where he's not going to be first choice. He said in an interview that his ultimate goal is to play for one of the Spanish giants – seems like he's in the right club now to work towards this goal. Finally, from our perspective we have other, more urgent (and expensive) priorities than a young CB. Nothing is impossible, but I would be surprised if it works out for us.
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I think there's every chance we will sell Sakho and Klavan this summer and who knows maybe Klopp might have seen enough of Gomez too and he also may leave. A CB quartet of Matip, VVD, Lovren and this kid Mammana would definitely improve us IMO.
Another voice of reason. I'd like to have seen more of Gomez though.
Yeah me too. I haven't seen nearly enough of him to decide whether or not getting rid of him would be the right thing but I have a suspicion that Klopp isn't overly keen on him (e.g. the fact that he picked Lucas to play CB instead of Gomez on a few occasions).
Also, we were destroyed by injury problems last season and we have 3 players in particular who seem particularly injury-prone, Ings, Sturridge and Gomez so I reckon he will try to offload 2 of 'em.
I can't see that much change happening at centre back.
Sakho is practically gone already but i don't see that there's a market for Klavan.
Unless it's handwashing cars on the dock road
Big pre season for Gomez I reckon. Would rather loan him out for a season anyway, then sell him outright. The lad is clearly talented and a season playing for the likes of Huddersfield in the Premier League would make us see what he can become, and if he can stay injury free obviously.
True, but he probably has a decent reputation in Germany and maybe some newly promoted Bundesliga team will give us back the £4m we paid for him.
I've pretty much decided to call him Mammary Gland
A bit more creative.
Yeah, Lyon has already made almost more than €100 million from the sales of Tolisso, Gonalons and Lacazetta. Unless Mammana has a clause in his contract, can't see him leaving at the rumoured amount.
It does sound like he's a bit of a tit.
Really milking it aren't you?
We need to nip these puns in the bud.
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