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El Judas Speaks - I was getting older, I needed a ring on me finger

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Fernando Torres has explained he could wait no longer for Liverpool to reclaim their place amongst the English elite, and that he has joined Chelsea to win trophies.

Torres, signed for a British record £50 million on transfer deadline day, was presented to the media at Chelsea's training ground in Cobham and added he would not celebrate against his former club if he scores in Sunday's Premier League tie.

"Things had changed a lot in the last year," Torres said of his time at Liverpool. "I think they have great ambition and they are doing the right things to get back but it will take time. I didn't have that time."

In 2007, Torres joined a Liverpool side that had just finished as runners-up in the Champions League, and although they challenged strongly for the Premier League in 2008-09, the striker ended his Liverpool career without any silverware to his name as the club declined sharply under the reign of former owners Tom Hicks and George Gillett.

Having won Euro 2008 and the 2010 World Cup with his country, a lack of success at club level is something Torres is keen to rectify at Chelsea. He admits Champions League glory is his top priority, as it is believed to be for Blues owner Roman Abramovich.

"The Champions League is the main thing," he said. "I know the ambition this club has about winning the Champions League, and it is the same ambition that I have. I think the ambition of this team is to keep winning trophies every year, so I have the same motivation. Talking about that, we are all thinking the same thing."

Torres admitted he had decided "ten-12 days before the transfer window closed" that he wanted to leave Anfield in order to join Chelsea, and made his position very clear to the club. The striker saw an official transfer requested rejected by Liverpool just days before his transfer.

"As soon as I knew that Liverpool and Chelsea were talking about that, I told them that the decision was made," Torres said. "I was the first one to go to the manager and tell them."
 
"I only have good things to say about Liverpool people," said Torres. "They made me feel really good there for three-and-a-half fantastic seasons.

"I understand they will be angry and will not understand my decision. Maybe in a few days or weeks I will explain all the reasons.

"When I was an Atletico Madrid fan growing up, I couldn't understand it when a big player left.

"I'm not asking them to understand me but I'm sure over time they will see what I did there.

"Football is like this. From one day to the other, people can love you or hate you."
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I notice he doesn't mention why he was giving quotes of "I'm staying" at the beginning of January. Fuck him, if he thinks Chelsea are closer to a Champion's League now than they were under Maureen then he is a fool.
 
Torres' commitment to the cause at Liverpool had been criticised this season but he said: "I never lost my ambition.

"Too many people are talking about that - that's just opinions. I was playing out of form for a month."

Chelsea manager Carlo Ancelotti said he had not decided whether to start Torres or keep him on the bench for the showdown against his former club.

Asked if he would celebrate a goal against the Reds, Torres said: "First I have to play, and then I have to score but I have big respect for Liverpool fans so I don't think I will."

Torres revealed that he made up his mind to leave Liverpool midway through the January transfer window and told the club he wanted to leave as soon as he knew of Chelsea's interest.

The Spaniard, whose fee was the fourth highest in football history, believes he can live up to his price tag.

"The ambition of this team is to win trophies every year," he said. "That is my ambition too.

"I have been in this situation before when I signed for Liverpool. Big money means big expectation. I'm more than ready for the challenge. I'm excited abut a new life and new era.
 
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=44049.msg1278143#msg1278143 date=1296832102]
I notice he doesn't mention why he was giving quotes of "I'm staying" at the beginning of January. Fuck him, if he thinks Chelsea are closer to a Champion's League now than they were under Maureen then he is a fool.
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But sure, just ask the Rafa Haters, ANYONE can win the CL, any club. It's EASY!
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=44049.msg1278150#msg1278150 date=1296832314]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=44049.msg1278143#msg1278143 date=1296832102]
I notice he doesn't mention why he was giving quotes of "I'm staying" at the beginning of January. Fuck him, if he thinks Chelsea are closer to a Champion's League now than they were under Maureen then he is a fool.
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But sure, just ask the Rafa Haters, ANYONE can win the CL, any club. It's EASY!
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Very,very dull.
 
After watching that interview I've decided not to hate him. That much. I won't be wishing him luck, though.
 
"Things had changed a lot in the last year," Torres said of his time at Liverpool. "I think they have great ambition and they are doing the right things to get back but it will take time. I didn't have that time."
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now that, I believe.
 
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[quote author=localny link=topic=44049.msg1278150#msg1278150 date=1296832314]
[quote author=Fallon link=topic=44049.msg1278143#msg1278143 date=1296832102]
I notice he doesn't mention why he was giving quotes of "I'm staying" at the beginning of January. Fuck him, if he thinks Chelsea are closer to a Champion's League now than they were under Maureen then he is a fool.
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But sure, just ask the Rafa Haters, ANYONE can win the CL, any club. It's EASY!
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Very,very dull.
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Yeah it's boring now. Rafa did well for us, but ultimately wasn't good enough. Everyone needs to get over it, he's gone.
 
His PR team were eager to milk all the adulation he received from LFC fans and improve his profile.

If he wants to win medals and is willing to join a club like Chelsea to do that, thats fine with me. He made a conscious choice and I understand it. I just hope he shuts up and stops giving interviews about connection with the fans, working class roots, blah blah blah, he will be ignored or booed.

I will respect his achievements and his service for the club thats all. He was well paid and did his job, pure business. But now that he is a Chelsea player, I will boo him and wish that his career goes into ruins. Coz I wish that happens to every opposition player who stands between us and succes ;D
 
[quote author=peekay link=topic=44049.msg1278183#msg1278183 date=1296833894]
His PR team were eager to milk all the adulation he received from LFC fans and improve his profile.

If he wants to win medals and is willing to join a club like Chelsea to do that, thats fine with me. He made a conscious choice and I understand it. I just hope he shuts up and stops giving interviews about connection with the fans, working class roots, blah blah blah, he will be ignored or booed.

I will respect his achievements and his service for the club thats all. He was well paid and did his job, pure business. But now that he is a Chelsea player, I will boo him and wish that his career goes into ruins. Coz I wish that happens to every opposition player who stands between us and succes ;D
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Well posted. I like this quote. I wish him the fate of Michael Owen - to quote someone on the Radio -

"He walked out on Liverpool for bigger and better things and ended up like that Nazi that picked the wrong chalice at the end of Indiana Jones and The Last Crusade."
 
That is all fair point from Torres, he should have gone public with his reasons and apologized and I think most of us although upset would have accepted it. In the end it was a shabby end to what on the whole was a very good career at Liverpool. I'm glad he has said that he won't celebrate, but then he won't score anyway because he'll be too busy helping out at the back fending off wave after wave of redmen.
 
Great piece of business...


"Furthermore, Liverpool's sale of Torres and Ryan Babel means their net transfer spend after buying Carroll and Suarez is £1.8m. Uefa said yesterday that Financial Fair Play rules, requiring clubs to break even by 2013, would be implemented "with rigour" and on this score, at least, Liverpool have far less to fear than Chelsea" - from the Telgraph
 
He has slept and had a think hasn't he?

He was a bitter little twat the day after we sold him, and came out with all that 'Its my destiny to score against Liverpool' now he is saying he won't celebrate if he's picked and does score.
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=44049.msg1278322#msg1278322 date=1296841925]
Great piece of business...


"Furthermore, Liverpool's sale of Torres and Ryan Babel means their net transfer spend after buying Carroll and Suarez is £1.8m. Uefa said yesterday that Financial Fair Play rules, requiring clubs to break even by 2013, would be implemented "with rigour" and on this score, at least, Liverpool have far less to fear than Chelsea" - from the Telgraph
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Umm would be a story, if it wasn't for the fact that this winters transfers are not to be taken into account when the fair play thing kicks in.

I think that's why we was chasing Adam and Young and Richards, and whoever else, during this window.

The Suarez deal wasn't to replace Torres, and the 50 Million from his sale would have all been spent last week if we had the chance
 
[quote author=localny link=topic=44049.msg1278322#msg1278322 date=1296841925]
Great piece of business...


"Furthermore, Liverpool's sale of Torres and Ryan Babel means their net transfer spend after buying Carroll and Suarez is £1.8m. Uefa said yesterday that Financial Fair Play rules, requiring clubs to break even by 2013, would be implemented "with rigour" and on this score, at least, Liverpool have far less to fear than Chelsea" - from the Telgraph
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there is nothing whatsoever stopping teams spending like crazy for two years before the rules kick in.
 
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=44049.msg1278170#msg1278170 date=1296833468]
After watching that interview I've decided not to hate him. That much. I won't be wishing him luck, though.
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Why Hal? Was his script writer your mum or something?

If it was, she could have taken less than 4 days surely to come up with an excuse.
 
I accept that we're hurt and and angry, rejection does that, but part of me can understand why he left. Promises made and broken over several years, lack of investment over several transfer windows, quality players left and were not replaced, followed by a brief flirtation with relegation. He didn't sign up for that and H&G have a lot to answer for they contracted the club to the point where we were only big in name and history. It's no coincidence that we had been overtaken by the likes of Tottenham and Man City.

To my mind he's gone. I'm disappointed but not bitter, he's a hell of a striker and I hope he does well but not at our expense. I just hope Pepe doesn't follow him out the door.
 
[quote author=IanTheRed link=topic=44049.msg1278351#msg1278351 date=1296844207]
[quote author=Halmeister link=topic=44049.msg1278170#msg1278170 date=1296833468]
After watching that interview I've decided not to hate him. That much. I won't be wishing him luck, though.
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Why Hal? Was his script writer your mum or something?

If it was, she could have taken less than 4 days surely to come up with an excuse.
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Yeah it was definitely one of his PR orchestrated interviews not to offend anyone.

It's not because he was more respectful this time around, I just don't care about him anymore. It doesn't hurt as much as it did. I'm just disappointed in him, but I'm not upset. He was just another good player to play for us, there's been plenty of them.

But he could have been so much more, and that's his loss. Not ours.

I'm over being angry.
 
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=44049.msg1278367#msg1278367 date=1296845644]
I accept that we're hurt and and angry, rejection does that, but part of me can understand why he left. Promises made and broken over several years, lack of investment over several transfer windows, quality players left and were not replaced, followed by a brief flirtation with relegation. He didn't sign up for that and H&G have a lot to answer for they contracted the club to the point where we were only big in name and history. It's no coincidence that we had been overtaken by the likes of Tottenham and Man City.

To my mind he's gone. I'm disappointed but not bitter, he's a hell of a striker and I hope he does well but not at our expense. I just hope Pepe doesn't follow him out the door.
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Check out his quote from the 9th January. Also google about Liverpool and Atleti being his only Premiership and La Liga teams respectively.

Also add in the fact that he handed in a transfer request on the 28th Jan at approximately 11pm, just 19 days after saying he always sees out contracts. Also the fact that he was on a mini break in Spain, with the club's blessing, so we couldn't sit down and speak to him.

It's all bollocks, he engineered this move with the help from a little tapping up and a lot of desire for the real thing he wants: money.

Finally, read his shallow vacuous autobiography post what has happened, post what you know to be his real motives. He'll be saying the same things now to Chelski, whilst his agents will be scurrying around building friendships with other clubs such as Inter and Barca, just incase nothing happens in the next two years at Chelski.
 
I didn't want the Spaniard to see out his contract as that would have meant we would have got nothing for him in terms of a transfer fee.

Also, it wasn't just his PR machine that led us to believe he was a red... our own club were willing to milk that for all its worth too.

As for the money thing, well the Spaniard joined us for less money than he was on at Atletico, didn't he? And I don't have a problem with him getting every penny he could from Chelsea and so making it harder for them to fulfill UEFA financial rules in a few years time.

It was a shit way to engineer a move, no doubt, like a husband abandoning his missus in the middle of the night without so much as a goodbye. Shame really, as if he stuck it out here just for a few months more and giving it all on the pitch, he would have been regarded as a legend, but now he's just another footballer.
 
[quote author=IanTheRed link=topic=44049.msg1278372#msg1278372 date=1296846427]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=44049.msg1278367#msg1278367 date=1296845644]
I accept that we're hurt and and angry, rejection does that, but part of me can understand why he left. Promises made and broken over several years, lack of investment over several transfer windows, quality players left and were not replaced, followed by a brief flirtation with relegation. He didn't sign up for that and H&G have a lot to answer for they contracted the club to the point where we were only big in name and history. It's no coincidence that we had been overtaken by the likes of Tottenham and Man City.

To my mind he's gone. I'm disappointed but not bitter, he's a hell of a striker and I hope he does well but not at our expense. I just hope Pepe doesn't follow him out the door.
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Check out his quote from the 9th January. Also google about Liverpool and Atleti being his only Premiership and La Liga teams respectively.

Also add in the fact that he handed in a transfer request on the 28th Jan at approximately 11pm, just 19 days after saying he always sees out contracts. Also the fact that he was on a mini break in Spain, with the club's blessing, so we couldn't sit down and speak to him.

It's all bollocks, he engineered this move with the help from a little tapping up and a lot of desire for the real thing he wants: money.

Finally, read his shallow vacuous autobiography post what has happened, post what you know to be his real motives. He'll be saying the same things now to Chelski, whilst his agents will be scurrying around building friendships with other clubs such as Inter and Barca, just incase nothing happens in the next two years at Chelski.
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He's already a multimillionaire, I would doubt it was about money
 
Did he really take a pay cut to come to Liverpool? I never heard that before. I thought we made him one of the highest paid players around.
 
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=44049.msg1278392#msg1278392 date=1296848921]
[quote author=IanTheRed link=topic=44049.msg1278372#msg1278372 date=1296846427]
[quote author=KopKing link=topic=44049.msg1278367#msg1278367 date=1296845644]
I accept that we're hurt and and angry, rejection does that, but part of me can understand why he left. Promises made and broken over several years, lack of investment over several transfer windows, quality players left and were not replaced, followed by a brief flirtation with relegation. He didn't sign up for that and H&G have a lot to answer for they contracted the club to the point where we were only big in name and history. It's no coincidence that we had been overtaken by the likes of Tottenham and Man City.

To my mind he's gone. I'm disappointed but not bitter, he's a hell of a striker and I hope he does well but not at our expense. I just hope Pepe doesn't follow him out the door.
[/quote]

Check out his quote from the 9th January. Also google about Liverpool and Atleti being his only Premiership and La Liga teams respectively.

Also add in the fact that he handed in a transfer request on the 28th Jan at approximately 11pm, just 19 days after saying he always sees out contracts. Also the fact that he was on a mini break in Spain, with the club's blessing, so we couldn't sit down and speak to him.

It's all bollocks, he engineered this move with the help from a little tapping up and a lot of desire for the real thing he wants: money.

Finally, read his shallow vacuous autobiography post what has happened, post what you know to be his real motives. He'll be saying the same things now to Chelski, whilst his agents will be scurrying around building friendships with other clubs such as Inter and Barca, just incase nothing happens in the next two years at Chelski.
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He's already a multimillionaire, I would doubt it was about money
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By all accounts the major sticking point was 15% between the two parties on image rights. Whilst it may not be THE deciding factor, it's certainly a factor in the thinking of him and his men.
 
[quote author=Krump link=topic=44049.msg1278395#msg1278395 date=1296849421]
Did he really take a pay cut to come to Liverpool? I never heard that before. I thought we made him one of the highest paid players around.
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This is what I remember. He was on 100K at Atletico and when he joined he was paid 90K at LFC. At the end of the first year, we matched and improved on his Atletico contract as a reward for his performance. Last summer CP increased it to 150K.

I dont think money was the reason he moved. He wanted medals at the club level and he was not willing to risk it with LFC. Over the next 18 months Chelsea are better placed than us to win stuff. If they dont and if roman does not whip out his cheque book again, I assume he will start agitating for a move to Barcelona.
 
Sorry if this has been posted earlier

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We should take satisfaction that he'll be remembered as having played his best football with us. 18 months is too long to be called poor form. Hoping he's a Sheva MkII for them.
 
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