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Being premier league and champions league champions will have a pull. As well as being one of the highest wage payers in the world.
Wait, let me finish....
I was raving about Zidane at Bordeaux.
Raved about a Leo Messi at Barca C
Saw Drogba played the first time at Marseille and i was telling everyone we MUST get this beast of a player
Predicted Mitrovic would be a flop even when many on 6CM wanted him
and many, many more...
Hardly anyone listened.
And then came the DB-like moments...
I said Mellor would make it. Flopped.
that Partridge would be the new Lentini. Ha ha. What was i thinking.
was so excited about Collymore when he joined. Gay.
that i would put my house on Pacheco tearing it up once he makes the first team.
and many, many more...
The only difference was unlike DB, i never cashed out.
But that was ages ago, long before the days of big data, analytics and soccernomics or whatever the heck it's called.
These days, I just hate football instead. Mostly.
Oh he was ... in CM 2001/02 ... Which I'm playing now.
Just signed him for Wycombe (I have them in the premier league - 4th place baby) with Tonton Moukou Zola (if you remember him)
Haha. Say hi to Marty for me pls. And Doc too.
Who is the next generation of world-class talents?
I heard this to the best of "Losing My Edge"
I was there in 1968.
I was there at the first Can show in Cologne.
I'm losing my edge.
I'm losing my edge to the kids whose footsteps I hear when they get on the decks.
I'm losing my edge to the Internet seekers who can tell me every member of every good group from 1962 to 1978.
I'm losing my edge.
Cherno Samba
Rhian Brewster
Another indication that Juve is actually seriously contemplating selling Dybala (to the horror of most of their fans). Nico Schira works for Gazzetta dello Sport, probably the only Italian newspaper that is worth paying attention to on transfers.
BTW he is also saying we are interested in Sandro Tonali, an 18-year-old "new Pirlo" from Brescia:
Back to Dybala, I think the whole thing with a "deal being agreed in a matter of weeks" is a load of bollocks, just like the Firm routinely claiming a transfer everyone wants is "imminent." By all accounts, Dybala feels unsettled by being forced to the wing to accommodate Ronaldo and hurt by being left out of the starting lineup for the season-defining game against Atletico Madrid in Turin. But the parties agreed to talk about this in the summer, when other issues such as Allegri's future in Juve will arise. Dybala will definitely insist on being given a central role. Juve might be sounding out scenarios of selling him just in case, but they'll do their best to keep one of their biggest stars and a fan favorite. We could be interested, but we will have any chance only if his relationship with Juventus totally breaks down; in any case nothing will be decided until summer.
BTW he is also saying we are interested in Sandro Tonali, an 18-year-old "new Pirlo" from Brescia:
Back to Dybala, I think the whole thing with a "deal being agreed in a matter of weeks" is a load of bollocks, just like the Firm routinely claiming a transfer everyone wants is "imminent." By all accounts, Dybala feels unsettled by being forced to the wing to accommodate Ronaldo and hurt by being left out of the starting lineup for the season-defining game against Atletico Madrid in Turin. But the parties agreed to talk about this in the summer, when other issues such as Allegri's future in Juve will arise. Dybala will definitely insist on being given a central role. Juve might be sounding out scenarios of selling him just in case, but they'll do their best to keep one of their biggest stars and a fan favorite. We could be interested, but we will have any chance only if his relationship with Juventus totally breaks down; in any case nothing will be decided until summer.
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Oh, there was a whole thread on him, apparently – which I completely missed. Agree with @Roopy, can't see him not going to Juve or another big Italian club.
I want to upgrade every position possible. Even if we get someone who is only 2% better than what we have we improve the squad. It has the added benefit of being able to rotate players in and out of the team without a massive drop in quality.
I’m not arsed about the wages because it’s not my money.
I’m not arsed about the wages because it’s not my money.
Ronaldo is my guess.
I can't recall ever seeing him play but based on the info in this site :
https://understat.com/player/1294
2017/18 seems like an outlier of a season.
This season he's actually outperforming his xG which means he must not be getting into good positions / is taking lots of long range efforts
15 games playing as a right winger: 1 goal
13 games as a centre forward, second striker: 7 goals.
Suggests he's struggling to get involved as a right winger, doesnt play to his strengths and natural position, which has lead to a downfall in productivity.
Lost in shadows at Juventus, Dybala needs Europe's elite to step in
• by Sam McGuire
Manchester United. Liverpool. Inter Milan. Those are the three clubs named as potential destinations for Paulo Dybala, the Argentine playmaker who wants out of Juventus this summer.
According to Italian media, the forward’s agent is holding talks with this trio in an attempt to engineer a move away from Turin. Dybala, it is claimed, wants to escape Cristiano Ronaldo’s shadow.
It’s not the sort of outcome many envisaged when Juventus pried the Córdoba-born attacker away from Palermo in 2015. The fleet-footed maestro was tipped to be the man to finally replace Alessandro Del Piero.
He was supposed to be the poster boy of the Juventus franchise for the next decade but for the second successive summer, he’s reportedly angling for a move away.
And with the Bianconeri already having signed Aaron Ramsey and interested in pairing Portuguese wonderkid João Félix with compatriot Ronaldo, the Serie A champions may feel now is the time to cash in on Argentine.
Coming off the back of his most prolific season to date, many expected Dybala to use the 2017/18 campaign as a platform to take his game to new heights. Once dubbed Lionel Messi’s heir, the Juventus man has been a consistent performer since the move to the Allianz Stadium but he rarely set the world alight.
That was until last year.
He netted 22 times in the league and added a further five assists in 2,358 minutes. It was the first time the 25-year-old had broken the 20-goal barrier in league competition. The feat is an even more impressive one when you consider he was playing more as a second striker alongside Gonzalo Higúain.
However, the landscape at Juventus changed when Ronaldo arrived. Massimiliano Allegri stopped playing a 3-5-2 system and utilised more of a 4-3-3 shape to get the best out of his new signing.
The Juve boss has used several different formations this term, but they all tend to contain three players attack. It’s something that suits their No.7 but not their No.10.
Because of this, Dybala is having his least productive campaign since his move to the Serie A giants. While Ronaldo has 19 to his name in the league and leads the way, the Argentina international has struck just four times.
Dybala has had to adapt his game to accommodate Ronaldo. He’s taking fewer shots this season – 2.64 down from 4.35 last year – is no longer on penalty duty and rarely takes free-kicks. The outcome is an obvious one. He’s not as productive in terms of goals.
That stat, as shown above, is down 0.63 on a per 90 basis. His assists and expected numbers have remained eerily consistent to last term. He’s playing more key passes again, similar to his 2016/17 numbers but he’s judged primarily on goals so that is what people will be looking at.
When you look at Dybala’s expected numbers, and his heat map, it appears as though very little has changed for the Juventus No.10. But this doesn’t tell the whole story. He may be occupying the same spaces as before but he’s not able to play his natural game.
Last season he’d find space on the edge of the penalty area and would look to get a shot away. He’s one of the most efficient shooters in world football; the placement of his shots add real value to his efforts and it’s why he regularly outperforms his xG.
This term, however, he’s opting to pass instead of shoot. He’s not as dangerous and Juventus aren’t using him to his full capabilities. It’s why he looks a shadow of his former self.
The fear of stagnating may be the driving force behind Dybala’s decision to push for a move away. All three of the linked clubs play a system suited to his style and he could flourish there.
In these teams, he could return to being a 20-goal-a-season forward who chips in with several assists. He’d be an invaluable asset if he managed to post those numbers on a yearly basis.
For Liverpool he could find a home as their No.10, alternating with Roberto Firmino. At Old Trafford, he could partner Romelu Lukaku or Marcus Rashford in attack. At Inter Milan he could replace compatriot Mauro Icardi as the main man at the San Siro alongside Lautaro Martínez.
If Dybala is available, it’s an opportunity Europe’s elite can’t pass up.
• by Sam McGuire
Manchester United. Liverpool. Inter Milan. Those are the three clubs named as potential destinations for Paulo Dybala, the Argentine playmaker who wants out of Juventus this summer.
According to Italian media, the forward’s agent is holding talks with this trio in an attempt to engineer a move away from Turin. Dybala, it is claimed, wants to escape Cristiano Ronaldo’s shadow.
It’s not the sort of outcome many envisaged when Juventus pried the Córdoba-born attacker away from Palermo in 2015. The fleet-footed maestro was tipped to be the man to finally replace Alessandro Del Piero.
He was supposed to be the poster boy of the Juventus franchise for the next decade but for the second successive summer, he’s reportedly angling for a move away.
And with the Bianconeri already having signed Aaron Ramsey and interested in pairing Portuguese wonderkid João Félix with compatriot Ronaldo, the Serie A champions may feel now is the time to cash in on Argentine.
Coming off the back of his most prolific season to date, many expected Dybala to use the 2017/18 campaign as a platform to take his game to new heights. Once dubbed Lionel Messi’s heir, the Juventus man has been a consistent performer since the move to the Allianz Stadium but he rarely set the world alight.
That was until last year.
He netted 22 times in the league and added a further five assists in 2,358 minutes. It was the first time the 25-year-old had broken the 20-goal barrier in league competition. The feat is an even more impressive one when you consider he was playing more as a second striker alongside Gonzalo Higúain.
However, the landscape at Juventus changed when Ronaldo arrived. Massimiliano Allegri stopped playing a 3-5-2 system and utilised more of a 4-3-3 shape to get the best out of his new signing.
The Juve boss has used several different formations this term, but they all tend to contain three players attack. It’s something that suits their No.7 but not their No.10.
Because of this, Dybala is having his least productive campaign since his move to the Serie A giants. While Ronaldo has 19 to his name in the league and leads the way, the Argentina international has struck just four times.
Dybala has had to adapt his game to accommodate Ronaldo. He’s taking fewer shots this season – 2.64 down from 4.35 last year – is no longer on penalty duty and rarely takes free-kicks. The outcome is an obvious one. He’s not as productive in terms of goals.
That stat, as shown above, is down 0.63 on a per 90 basis. His assists and expected numbers have remained eerily consistent to last term. He’s playing more key passes again, similar to his 2016/17 numbers but he’s judged primarily on goals so that is what people will be looking at.
When you look at Dybala’s expected numbers, and his heat map, it appears as though very little has changed for the Juventus No.10. But this doesn’t tell the whole story. He may be occupying the same spaces as before but he’s not able to play his natural game.
Last season he’d find space on the edge of the penalty area and would look to get a shot away. He’s one of the most efficient shooters in world football; the placement of his shots add real value to his efforts and it’s why he regularly outperforms his xG.
This term, however, he’s opting to pass instead of shoot. He’s not as dangerous and Juventus aren’t using him to his full capabilities. It’s why he looks a shadow of his former self.
The fear of stagnating may be the driving force behind Dybala’s decision to push for a move away. All three of the linked clubs play a system suited to his style and he could flourish there.
In these teams, he could return to being a 20-goal-a-season forward who chips in with several assists. He’d be an invaluable asset if he managed to post those numbers on a yearly basis.
For Liverpool he could find a home as their No.10, alternating with Roberto Firmino. At Old Trafford, he could partner Romelu Lukaku or Marcus Rashford in attack. At Inter Milan he could replace compatriot Mauro Icardi as the main man at the San Siro alongside Lautaro Martínez.
If Dybala is available, it’s an opportunity Europe’s elite can’t pass up.
He'd never get paid enough for that
Also Sturridge and Moreno leaving will free up plenty of wages.
Yeah, that's about 150 Gs a week, isn't it?
Will definitely be around that, sure Sturridge is on about £100k maybe more.
I think he'll most likely end up at Juventus.
Despite his class - he is an absolute idiot - a headache that clubs like Madrid & Barcelona will just simply not entertain.
Juventus have been linked strongly to him & oddly enough Lukaku - not sure what to make of that - so depending on whatever happens its only those 2 clubs that I can see him ending up at.
Madrid - I wouldnt count them out either it really depends what happens with Perez. If he gets the vote then he will protect his boy Benzema and Icardi will not be signed. If he is voted out, then I there is a chance who ever comes could entertain the idea of Icardi and for Benzema out - more of a political signing if anything.
In regards to Dybala - a fantastic player that I would take in a heartbeat (given the right price).
My only gripe with him is that he does tend to go missing in the bigger matches.
We really need to bring another top forward - its so vital that we have constant pressure our on current front 3 to keep performing at a high level - and not fall into the trap of bringing in back up forwards or benchwarmers and have our current front 3 get lax. Firmino has had a bit of criticism aimed at him for not scoring enough - but at the end of the day regardless of his goal output, if he is fit he's 100% a starter, and that's what we need to avoid moving forward.
Dybala fits the bill because he can pretty much play in any front 3 position.
You're talking about Icardi, right? I was talking about Toneli in the passage you quoted. As for Icardi, I'm not sure if Juve will have the patience to deal with "an absolute idiot" either – he might go down the route of Cassano and end up at your Fiorentina/Parma/whatever.
100% agree on Dybala. As for "big game" criticism, he did score a crucial goal against Spurs away in the last CL. Part of it I think it tactical, in big games teams often shore up the space in front of the penalty area at the expense of everything else and this is exactly the space where he gets most of his goals from (and where we at LFC almost never score from since Coutinho and Can left). Imagining Dybala in the middle with Salah and Mane on either side, it will be very difficult for teams to put out a "Dybala block" in the middle simultaneously with the "Salah block" on the left flank of the defense and "Mane block" on the right. Something will have to give.
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I bet you we don't have £125m in the bank as a reserve
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