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[quote author=Herr Onceared link=topic=44931.msg1366172#msg1366172 date=1310850841]
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=44931.msg1365798#msg1365798 date=1310796476]
There's always only one place to go, the best most lucrative place at that particular point in time.
[/quote]FYI Farky, Spurs and Arsenal had bid for Downing at the same time as us and at the last minute Manchester United put a bid in. Downing didnt even want to talk to them, and given the relative offers you would imagine he has chosen us on merit, not on financial gain.
Ive not been massively keen on this transfer especially not for huge money, but the one thing i would say is that im 100% that Downing wanted to be here and only here.
Maybe because his father is a fan, dunno really but he DID turn down Arsenal, Manchester and Spurs to come to us.
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I'd love to believe that's true, but I'm struggling to. Where did you hear that?
[quote author=Farkmaster link=topic=44931.msg1365798#msg1365798 date=1310796476]
There's always only one place to go, the best most lucrative place at that particular point in time.
[/quote]FYI Farky, Spurs and Arsenal had bid for Downing at the same time as us and at the last minute Manchester United put a bid in. Downing didnt even want to talk to them, and given the relative offers you would imagine he has chosen us on merit, not on financial gain.
Ive not been massively keen on this transfer especially not for huge money, but the one thing i would say is that im 100% that Downing wanted to be here and only here.
Maybe because his father is a fan, dunno really but he DID turn down Arsenal, Manchester and Spurs to come to us.
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I'd love to believe that's true, but I'm struggling to. Where did you hear that?
It came from the same person who said we were interested in downing way back in march, & who said the fee was agreed more than 24 hours before it was announced.
Blimey. If that's true, it's very encouraging on a number of levels.
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=44931.msg1366257#msg1366257 date=1310891314]
I thought the scum might bid for Downing, they've only got about 150 wingers.
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Not sure about that, mate. Young and Nani I'll give you but Giggs is more of a CM these days, it remains to be seen whether Valencia can get back to what he was before, and Obertan is cr@p.
I thought the scum might bid for Downing, they've only got about 150 wingers.
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Not sure about that, mate. Young and Nani I'll give you but Giggs is more of a CM these days, it remains to be seen whether Valencia can get back to what he was before, and Obertan is cr@p.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44931.msg1366264#msg1366264 date=1310892571]
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=44931.msg1366257#msg1366257 date=1310891314]
I thought the scum might bid for Downing, they've only got about 150 wingers.
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Not sure about that, mate. Young and Nani I'll give you but Giggs is more of a CM these days, it remains to be seen whether Valencia can get back to what he was before, and Obertan is cr@p.
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Well of course i was over egging it mate, but could you see Fergie wanting Downing for £16-£20mil when he already has Young, Nani, Valencia (who i thought came back very well personally), Park and Giggs (if need be) to pick from?
I could be wrong but i'd be amazed if this rumour is true.
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=44931.msg1366257#msg1366257 date=1310891314]
I thought the scum might bid for Downing, they've only got about 150 wingers.
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Not sure about that, mate. Young and Nani I'll give you but Giggs is more of a CM these days, it remains to be seen whether Valencia can get back to what he was before, and Obertan is cr@p.
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Well of course i was over egging it mate, but could you see Fergie wanting Downing for £16-£20mil when he already has Young, Nani, Valencia (who i thought came back very well personally), Park and Giggs (if need be) to pick from?
I could be wrong but i'd be amazed if this rumour is true.
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[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44931.msg1366264#msg1366264 date=1310892571]
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=44931.msg1366257#msg1366257 date=1310891314]
I thought the scum might bid for Downing, they've only got about 150 wingers.
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Not sure about that, mate. Young and Nani I'll give you but Giggs is more of a CM these days, it remains to be seen whether Valencia can get back to what he was before, and Obertan is cr@p.
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Well of course i was over egging it mate, but could you see Fergie wanting Downing for £16-£20mil when he already has Young, Nani, Valencia (who i thought came back very well personally), Park and Giggs (if need be) to pick from?
I could be wrong but i'd be amazed if this rumour is true.
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Exackerly.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44931.msg1366264#msg1366264 date=1310892571]
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=44931.msg1366257#msg1366257 date=1310891314]
I thought the scum might bid for Downing, they've only got about 150 wingers.
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Not sure about that, mate. Young and Nani I'll give you but Giggs is more of a CM these days, it remains to be seen whether Valencia can get back to what he was before, and Obertan is cr@p.
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Well of course i was over egging it mate, but could you see Fergie wanting Downing for £16-£20mil when he already has Young, Nani, Valencia (who i thought came back very well personally), Park and Giggs (if need be) to pick from?
I could be wrong but i'd be amazed if this rumour is true.
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Exackerly.
And none of you think he'd stick his oar in with a high bid to both piss kenny off & try to make us pay more? I think he'd do it in a heartbeat.
It's a win win for him, if they accept his bid & downing agrees to talk to him then he's potentially scuppered our move yet can offer low wages or shit conditions to scrap the deal, & our fans turn on downing. If they don't accept they may still use it to try to force us to up our bid, again potentially scuppering the deal.
It's a win win for him, if they accept his bid & downing agrees to talk to him then he's potentially scuppered our move yet can offer low wages or shit conditions to scrap the deal, & our fans turn on downing. If they don't accept they may still use it to try to force us to up our bid, again potentially scuppering the deal.
The villa forum does make for some hilarious reading, first Downings a hero, then when he's linked to us he's an incredibly loyal person who'd never leave, now he's an absolute twat that spat in the face of every villa fan, all this whilst going from player of the season to some shite footie player who isn't fit to lace youngster boots
[quote author=Lewy link=topic=44931.msg1366296#msg1366296 date=1310895267]
The villa forum does make for some hilarious reading, first Downings a hero, then when he's linked to us he's an incredibly loyal person who'd never leave, now he's an absolute twat that spat in the face of every villa fan, all this whilst going from player of the season to some shite footie player who isn't fit to lace youngster boots
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a bit like us during the torres debacle
The villa forum does make for some hilarious reading, first Downings a hero, then when he's linked to us he's an incredibly loyal person who'd never leave, now he's an absolute twat that spat in the face of every villa fan, all this whilst going from player of the season to some shite footie player who isn't fit to lace youngster boots
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a bit like us during the torres debacle
[quote author=Lewy link=topic=44931.msg1366296#msg1366296 date=1310895267]
The villa forum does make for some hilarious reading, first Downings a hero, then when he's linked to us he's an incredibly loyal person who'd never leave, now he's an absolute twat that spat in the face of every villa fan, all this whilst going from player of the season to some shite footie player who isn't fit to lace youngster boots
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TBF I remember some fucking awful comments about Gerrard during that Chelsea saga. Loads of people were making excuses for Torres too, using the form is temporary class is permanent argument, then as soon as he left he's crocked & will never be the same player again.
Revisionism & hypocrisy are the right of the modern football fan.
The villa forum does make for some hilarious reading, first Downings a hero, then when he's linked to us he's an incredibly loyal person who'd never leave, now he's an absolute twat that spat in the face of every villa fan, all this whilst going from player of the season to some shite footie player who isn't fit to lace youngster boots
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TBF I remember some fucking awful comments about Gerrard during that Chelsea saga. Loads of people were making excuses for Torres too, using the form is temporary class is permanent argument, then as soon as he left he's crocked & will never be the same player again.
Revisionism & hypocrisy are the right of the modern football fan.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1366295#msg1366295 date=1310895113]
And none of you think he'd stick his oar in with a high bid to both piss kenny off & try to make us pay more? I think he'd do it in a heartbeat.
It's a win win for him, if they accept his bid & downing agrees to talk to him then he's potentially scuppered our move yet can offer low wages or shit conditions to scrap the deal, & our fans turn on downing. If they don't accept they may still use it to try to force us to up our bid, again potentially scuppering the deal.
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Why didn't he bid for Doni, Henderson and Adam then?
And none of you think he'd stick his oar in with a high bid to both piss kenny off & try to make us pay more? I think he'd do it in a heartbeat.
It's a win win for him, if they accept his bid & downing agrees to talk to him then he's potentially scuppered our move yet can offer low wages or shit conditions to scrap the deal, & our fans turn on downing. If they don't accept they may still use it to try to force us to up our bid, again potentially scuppering the deal.
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Why didn't he bid for Doni, Henderson and Adam then?
I've no idea, maybe he feels the downing deal is more important? If he did it to every single deal it'd become obvious to the target & the club & wouldn't have any effect. But if you think Utd targeting players we are is new you're sadly mistaken. Under houllier & rafa he did it a fair bit too, fucking up some deals in the process.
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=44931.msg1366300#msg1366300 date=1310895612]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1366295#msg1366295 date=1310895113]
And none of you think he'd stick his oar in with a high bid to both piss kenny off & try to make us pay more? I think he'd do it in a heartbeat.
It's a win win for him, if they accept his bid & downing agrees to talk to him then he's potentially scuppered our move yet can offer low wages or shit conditions to scrap the deal, & our fans turn on downing. If they don't accept they may still use it to try to force us to up our bid, again potentially scuppering the deal.
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Why didn't he bid for Doni, Henderson and Adam then?
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I'm pretty sure he did at the very least make some rumbling around the Adam deal.
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1366295#msg1366295 date=1310895113]
And none of you think he'd stick his oar in with a high bid to both piss kenny off & try to make us pay more? I think he'd do it in a heartbeat.
It's a win win for him, if they accept his bid & downing agrees to talk to him then he's potentially scuppered our move yet can offer low wages or shit conditions to scrap the deal, & our fans turn on downing. If they don't accept they may still use it to try to force us to up our bid, again potentially scuppering the deal.
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Why didn't he bid for Doni, Henderson and Adam then?
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I'm pretty sure he did at the very least make some rumbling around the Adam deal.
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[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=44931.msg1366300#msg1366300 date=1310895612]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1366295#msg1366295 date=1310895113]
And none of you think he'd stick his oar in with a high bid to both piss kenny off & try to make us pay more? I think he'd do it in a heartbeat.
It's a win win for him, if they accept his bid & downing agrees to talk to him then he's potentially scuppered our move yet can offer low wages or shit conditions to scrap the deal, & our fans turn on downing. If they don't accept they may still use it to try to force us to up our bid, again potentially scuppering the deal.
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Why didn't he bid for Doni, Henderson and Adam then?
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I'm pretty sure he did at the very least make some rumbling around the Adam deal.
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Yeah i seem to remember some paper talk of them being interested (as were another 5-6 clubs) but i can't recall any bid being reported.
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=44931.msg1366300#msg1366300 date=1310895612]
[quote author=FoxForceFive link=topic=44931.msg1366295#msg1366295 date=1310895113]
And none of you think he'd stick his oar in with a high bid to both piss kenny off & try to make us pay more? I think he'd do it in a heartbeat.
It's a win win for him, if they accept his bid & downing agrees to talk to him then he's potentially scuppered our move yet can offer low wages or shit conditions to scrap the deal, & our fans turn on downing. If they don't accept they may still use it to try to force us to up our bid, again potentially scuppering the deal.
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Why didn't he bid for Doni, Henderson and Adam then?
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I'm pretty sure he did at the very least make some rumbling around the Adam deal.
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Yeah i seem to remember some paper talk of them being interested (as were another 5-6 clubs) but i can't recall any bid being reported.
He made a point in January of saying he was worth 10m when we were bidding 8m. That's sticking his oar in.
As for players he fucked up for us, Barry is one that springs to mind.
As for players he fucked up for us, Barry is one that springs to mind.
He was an absolute cunt over Adam back in January. He made comments after they played Blackpool (and when it was widely reported we'd had a bid rejected) that "his corners are worth £10m alone", this when Blackpool were insistent that we pay £10m.
I don't know whether there's any truth in the Downing story, but don't underestimate the cuntishness of Slur.
I don't know whether there's any truth in the Downing story, but don't underestimate the cuntishness of Slur.
[quote author=Judge Jules link=topic=44931.msg1366264#msg1366264 date=1310892571]
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=44931.msg1366257#msg1366257 date=1310891314]
I thought the scum might bid for Downing, they've only got about 150 wingers.
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Not sure about that, mate. Young and Nani I'll give you but Giggs is more of a CM these days, it remains to be seen whether Valencia can get back to what he was before, and Obertan is cr@p.
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you forgot Bebe
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=44931.msg1366257#msg1366257 date=1310891314]
I thought the scum might bid for Downing, they've only got about 150 wingers.
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Not sure about that, mate. Young and Nani I'll give you but Giggs is more of a CM these days, it remains to be seen whether Valencia can get back to what he was before, and Obertan is cr@p.
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you forgot Bebe
[quote author=Kenny4PM link=topic=44931.msg1366317#msg1366317 date=1310898012]
After taking into account the options Fergie has to play out wide, do you think he was even interested mark?
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Interested in improving the team?
Nani is reportedly not in the good books and we all know there's no chance of a reprieve once that happens, Valencia plays on the right and is injury prone, Giggs often plays in the middle these days and Park remains a rotated player (if an underrated one, 28 apps last year and 8 goals!). Young is versatile and can play wide or upfront so I think there's room for another yeah.
After taking into account the options Fergie has to play out wide, do you think he was even interested mark?
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Interested in improving the team?
Nani is reportedly not in the good books and we all know there's no chance of a reprieve once that happens, Valencia plays on the right and is injury prone, Giggs often plays in the middle these days and Park remains a rotated player (if an underrated one, 28 apps last year and 8 goals!). Young is versatile and can play wide or upfront so I think there's room for another yeah.
managers being interested in a player doensn't automatically make that player good and managers not being interested in a player doesn't automatically make that player poor.
I remember 3 seasons ago alonso was on the open market and NO ONE came in for him.
I remember 3 seasons ago alonso was on the open market and NO ONE came in for him.
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