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A pleasant surprise to some so far. Obviously pre-season needs to be taken with a massive pinch of salt, but he seems dangerous on the ground and in the air, he can pick a pass and isn't afriad to run at defenders.

Player of the tournament in the under 20 world cup as well, thats not exactly easy to get

Should he be a guaranteed place on the bench ahead of origi?

Is he an option for a dreaded "plan B", because he's actually not shite in the air and can play klopps system?
 
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Yeah, he's looked good every time I have seen him. He's going to be an interesting one to watch.
 
I would start solanke ahead of origi.

He's just as strong on the ball, infinitely smarter off it and actually has an eye for goal.
 
I've no doubt that playing in the U20 WC has given him a fitness edge over most other players. However as I have just said in the Pre-Season thread .. he's clearly #2 to Sturridge for me. Technique, control and knows where the goal is ... in fact he already look sour best header of a ball !
 
Firmino is our starter. Sturridge is made of glass and missed today, so I'd be tempted to put solanke ahead of him until Sturridge can prove fitness.
 
Solanke is definitely ahead of origi but behind sturridge. Looks very talented.

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It looks like we've picked up a player.

He's probably the one i'll be most interested to watch for this season
 
Just what we needed too, a different opinion up front and cost us peanuts. He only needs to bag a few goals and he could be on the plane for the World Cup.
 
Looked promising in pre season but as we've seen before pre season means fuck all so I'll hold my excitement until he shows the same form in competitive games.
 
He's shown enough to warrant being considered for the bench against Watford. We've also played a number of quite competitive games this preseason and very few have been obvious fitness focused run outs. Although form can fluctuate, it's obvious that he has a good footballing brain and can contribute. Pre season isn't the time to be announcing new world class talent but it's a decent insight into a players ability to gel into the squad and play a position.

What's impressed me about Solanke is his ability to play that lone striker role. He can keep it simple, play with his back to goal, he holds the ball up well and has enough technical ability to dribble past defenders that get too tight. He's also proven to be a willing runner, providing options out wide, stretching the defense and opening up space to run into. He's strong, has an eye for a pass and is reasonably quick for his build.

He looks tactically astute and far more composed than Origi. He might not have the raw power of Origi but he is likely to add far more to our overall game.

I had high hopes for Origi but he often fails to lead the line, running into the wrong spots, losing the ball cheaply and his passing is inconsistent. His direct, unpredictable style and raw power can destroy defenders so it's highly frustrating. I imagine Origi will continue to drop down Klopp's pecking order until he manages to demonstrate the ability to learn and modify his game.
 
Yeah, I'm quite impressed by Solanke. He seems to have all the tools of a modern centre-forward. He's been very productive this pre-season both with goals (3), but also with assists (also 3, if you count the saved shot that led to Chirivella's goal against Tranmere); I don't think he could have done any more to impress Klopp and stake his claim for first-team playing time.

As for Origi, like I said a few weeks ago, I'd like him to go on a season-long loan to a Premiership team. He needs playing time and needs to find the confidence that he can really lead the line. He has talent, but lacks self-belief – something Solanke and Woodburn seem to have no problem with.
 
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Yeah, I'm quite impressed by Solanke. He seems to have all the tools of a modern centre-forward. He's been very productive this pre-season both with goals (3), but also with assists (also 3, if you count the saved shot that led to Chirivella's goal against Tranmere); I don't think he could have done any more to impress Klopp and stake his claim for first-team playing time.

As for Origi, like I said a few weeks ago, I'd like him to go on a season-long loan to a Premiership team. He needs playing time and needs to find the confidence that he can really lead the line. He has talent, but lacks self-belief – something Solanke and Woodburn seem to have no problem with.
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If you've seen/read Origi in interviews, he comes across as timid and self-reflective. Similar to Mignolet in many ways.

And not surprising that they're actually supposed to be two of our more educated, well-read players.


That's reflected in his play also - he's very much a confidence player. When he goes on a run of good form, he can look really good. For instance, the pre-Funes Mori tackle period, he looked sensational. He had another spell last year where he scored 5 in 5. Just as well, because when he goes on a run of bad form, he looks really poor.

I've always said Origi has fantastic attributes - pace, power and no small measure of technical ability. SCM's criticism of him completely overblown. Even today, his stats are favourably comparable to Martial, Rashford, Iheanacho. Saying he's completely shit is pretty reductive. That label should be reserved for the likes of N'gog, Jovanovic etc. Players who were genuinely crap, and failed miserably even after they left Liverpool.

With Origi, there's clearly a big question mark on his Liverpool career. But I'll be amazed if he doesn't forge a solid career for himself elsewhere. He'll be a 12-15 goal a striker easily at a top-10 club anywhere in Europe. Yet like Mignolet, I don't know if he has the personality or desire to be a proper world class player.
 
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He's shown enough to warrant being considered for the bench against Watford. We've also played a number of quite competitive games this preseason and very few have been obvious fitness focused run outs. Although form can fluctuate, it's obvious that he has a good footballing brain and can contribute. Pre season isn't the time to be announcing new world class talent but it's a decent insight into a players ability to gel into the squad and play a position.

What's impressed me about Solanke is his ability to play that lone striker role. He can keep it simple, play with his back to goal, he holds the ball up well and has enough technical ability to dribble past defenders that get too tight. He's also proven to be a willing runner, providing options out wide, stretching the defense and opening up space to run into. He's strong, has an eye for a pass and is reasonably quick for his build.

He looks tactically astute and far more composed than Origi. He might not have the raw power of Origi but he is likely to add far more to our overall game.

I had high hopes for Origi but he often fails to lead the line, running into the wrong spots, losing the ball cheaply and his passing is inconsistent. His direct, unpredictable style and raw power can destroy defenders so it's highly frustrating. I imagine Origi will continue to drop down Klopp's pecking order until he manages to demonstrate the ability to learn and modify his game.
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Excellent post.
 
I suspect the fact that the fee still hasn't been decided upon by the tribunal (unless I've missed it, I tend not to read footy news at all during the summer) & we repeatedly said loudly he'd be an under 23 level player for us, will means he may be forced to wait a little longer before making his first team debut.

I hope I'm wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if we see Origi favoured over him until the fee is decided.
 
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I suspect the fact that the fee still hasn't been decided upon by the tribunal (unless I've missed it, I tend not to read footy news at all during the summer) & we repeatedly said loudly he'd be an under 23 level player for us, will means he may be forced to wait a little longer before making his first team debut.

I hope I'm wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if we see Origi favoured over him until the fee is decided.
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I'd hope that they only consider the situation whilst he was under contract at Chelsea. Calculating the fee with what he's achieved since signing with us would be immensely unfair.

What happens if they suggest a fee of 25million. Do we reject and then have to release him. who then pays out his contract.. the whole thing is bullshit. The tribunal needs to make a decision within 7 days of the initial contract being agreed
 
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I suspect the fact that the fee still hasn't been decided upon by the tribunal (unless I've missed it, I tend not to read footy news at all during the summer) & we repeatedly said loudly he'd be an under 23 level player for us, will means he may be forced to wait a little longer before making his first team debut.

I hope I'm wrong, but it wouldn't surprise me one bit if we see Origi favoured over him until the fee is decided.
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For some reason I think they're only allowed to take into account his time at Chelsea when calculating a fee ?

Otherwise it's a strain of sellers remorse..
 
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For some reason I think they're only allowed to take into account his time at Chelsea when calculating a fee ?

Otherwise it's a strain of sellers remorse..
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That's what it mainly does, if I recall well. Chelsea may not have a strong enough argument by not playing him much, therefore.
 
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For some reason I think they're only allowed to take into account his time at Chelsea when calculating a fee ?

Otherwise it's a strain of sellers remorse..
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You'd hope so, but if he's banging in goals for us in the first team I struggle to believe that they will completely divorce that fact from their fee.

It is mental it takes so long though, it should be a very simple matter dealt with in mere days.
 
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Other than Solanke, we have another young striker waiting on the wings by the name of Danny Ings. Remember the name.
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Ings will get games, but he's got a lot of ground to make up on Origi and solanke
 
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